Conference Committee

Good morning. I'd like to call to order our conference committee hearing with, house and Senate. It is Friday, April 24, and we are on our 10:05 agenda, and it is 10:10AM, and we're in Conference Room 224.

Thank you, Senators and everybody, for being here today and and house members. First item on the agenda is HP 1711 HD1 SD 2 relating to housing.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chair and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Senate conferees are co- Chairs myself and Senator Hashimoto and conferees Senator Elefante .

For this bill, we have agreement, and we are waiting on FIN and WAM release. So if it's okay with you, Senator Chang, if we can roll this over to Monday, April 27 at 10:05 in the same room, 224.

Sounds good.

Okay. Great. Next item on the agenda is HB1713 HD1 SD1, no end to school impact fees. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Senate Conseil, include, Chair Chang, co-Chairs Senators Kim and Hashimoto.

This bill, we have agreement that we're waiting on a final CD1. So we haven't yet put in for release. So if it's agreeable to you, Senator, if we can roll this over also to Monday, same time, same time, same place. Great. Thank you.

So that's 10:05, Room 224. Next item is HB 1718 HD 1 SD 1 Relating to Housing. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Hashim and Miyake as co-Chairs and Representatives Yamashita and Cochran as managers.

Senator conferees, I include myself as and myself as Chair and senators Wakai and Hashimoto as co-Chairs.

And we also have agreement on this that we're waiting on the final CD1 to put in for a release. So it's agreeable to you. Also rolling this over to Monday, 10:05AM, Conference Room 224. Sure.

Next item is HB 1740 HD2 SD2, relating to the Hawaii Housing Finance and Development Corporation.

On behalf of myself I mean, on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Hashim and Miyake as co-Chairs and Representative Cochran as manager.

Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co Chair Senator Elefante , and Congressman Alexander Lewis.

And on this, we do not yet have agreement, though we are very, very close in waiting for a final CD 1 this afternoon to discuss. So if it's agreeable to you, again, rolling this over to Monday, Conference Room 224 at 10:05AM. Sure.

Thank you. Next item is HB1920 HD1 SD2, relating to the low income housing tax credit.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Senate managers and myself as Chair and co Chair Senator Hashimoto and conferee Senator Rhoads.

And we have agreement on this, and we're waiting on FIN and WAM release. So same thing. If you're okay, if we could roll this over to Monday, Conference Room 224, 10:05.

Sure. Senate Bill 2069, SD 2 HD 1, relating to the dwelling unit revolving funds. Senate managers are myself as Chair , co-Chair Senator Hashimoto, and conferee Senator Rhoads.

And on behalf of the house, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co Chairs, and manager Representative Cochran.

Okay. I think we have agreement in principle, although we're still waiting for the attorney general. So, let's, reconvene on this bill on Monday at 10:05AM in this room.

Sounds great.

For Senate Bill 2338, SD 1 HD2 relating to housing, the Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co-Chair Senator Hashimoto, and conferees Senator Elefante.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Sayama and Miyake as co-Chairs and managers, Representative Muraoka.

Okay. I think we're still working on the CD 1 here. So why don't we reconvene on this measure on Monday at ten and 5AM in this room?

Sounds good.

Senate Bill 2554 relating to housing. Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co-Chair Senator Hashimoto, and conferees Senator Rhoads.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chairs, and Representative Cochran as manager.

Okay. I think we have agreement of principle, on a CD1 to clean the date, but we are still awaiting them. So why don't we reconvene on this bill on Monday at 10:05AM in this room?

Sounds good.

For Senate bill two five five two, s d one h d one relating to the individual housing account program, Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co-Chair Senator Hashimoto, and conferees Senator Fevella.

And on behalf of the House, myself and Representative Miyake as co Chairs and Representative Matsumoto as manager.

On this bill, I believe we have agreement on a CD1 to, change the maximum deduction contribution amounts to $20,000 for an individual taxpayer in a single taxable year, 40,000 for a married couple filing jointly, and 200,000 for all taxable years in aggregate, and also to clean the date.

But we do not have landlords.

Yep.

So why don't we reconvene on Monday at 10:05AM in this room?

Sounds good.

Having no further business, this agenda is adjourned.

Good morning. I'd like to call to order our conference committee hearing with the House and Senate. It is Friday, April 24. We are on our 10:10 agenda here in Conference Room 224. First item on the agenda is HB 1721 HD 2 SD 2 related to housing on behalf of the House.

We have myself and Representative Matayoshi and Tarnas as co Chairs and Representative Cochran as manager.

On behalf of the Senate myself is Chair, Chang, Keohokalole as co-Chair, Fevella as a member.

And I believe we have agreement here on a CD1. We do not need FIN and WAM release, so so I believe we're ready to vote.

Your belief has come true.

Thank you, sir. This will be our my our first bill here of, of this session. This bill clarifies insurance indemnification and certain certificate of occupancy requirements for purposes of expedited permits. It requires state or county inspectors to inspect all projects with expedited permits.

The agreement we have is to adopt the language of the SD 2, but make it effective upon approval. Is that good with you?

Yep. Thank you for your good work.

Alright. I we will go ahead and take the vote. So the recommendation of the house and Senate managers is to pass, with amendments to make it effective upon approval of the SD2. [Roll Call] And may I have behalf I take the vote for the Senate?

Yes, please.

[Roll Call] Measure passes.

We have a bill. Thank you, sir.

You're welcome. Thank you. We will now move on to the next measure. That is Senate Bill 3218 SD2 HD 2 relating to bonds. On behalf of the Senate, myself is Cher Hashimoto as co-Chair and Fevella as a member.

And on behalf of the house, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chairs and Representative Moraoka as manager.

On, this measure, it's significant to the to the development community. Appreciate working with you, and we've come up with all the language.

And I need to mention to to the public that this bill makes amendments for purposes of the resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity act and conform state laws concerning county debt limits to permit counties to exclude resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds from the debt limit of the counties.

If a constitutional amendment authorizing the use of resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds and excluding resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds, determinations of the county's fund debt is ratified. Apparently, a lawyer wrote that.

For the CD 1, we have agreement on that language, which is to add a clean date and copies have been distributed to the managers. Unfortunately, we do not have the money chairs released yet. So if it's okay with you, I'd like to reconvene here in Room 224 on Monday, April 27 at 10:10.

Sounds good.

The last measure on this agenda is Senate Bill 3219 HD 3 , proposing amendments to Article 7, section 12 and 13 of the Hawaii state constitution. Twin to the previous bill and needs to go hand in hand with it.

But unfortunately, again, we do not have money committee clearance on this. Language has been all cleared up, and we'd like to reconvene and see your handsome face here on Monday, April 27 at 10:10 in Room 224.

Yes. And do you wanna so on this bill, yeah, we are submitting language to the governor's office with the with the ballot language. Do you wanna walk us through that, Senator?

I certainly do. This bill amends the Hawaii state constitution to expressly provide that the legislature may authorize political subdivisions to issue resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds for specified public works,

public improvements, or other actions necessary for housing and community development, and exclude these bonds from determinations of the funded debt of the political subdivisions.

It further goes on to say that the Chairs have, while we have worked on and have agreed to the language of the CD1 and the constitutional amendments, encompassing this bill, copies have been distributed to the managers.

And we are as making a minor change to the ballot question suggested by the AG's office and to allow the phrase quote to direct the legislature. The ballot question will now read, bear with me.

This is what the public's gonna see this fall. Shall the Hawaii state constitution be amended to direct the legislature to authorize the counties to issue resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds to fund public improvements in designated districts,

repaid solely by future growth in property tax revenues within those districts, not increasing real property taxes, where such bonds are excluded from the county's debt limit and are subject to accountability and oversight requirements as may be provided by law.

The first part is moving this Conant and Bill through the legislative process and sending the governor the amendments to the constitution in the bill, which will be done today.

And as mentioned, we do not have RAM and FIN release, so I'd like to see you back here on Monday, the 27th at 10:10 in Room 221.

That sounds great. Thank you, sir.

Thanks for bearing with me.

Thank you for joining us for this conference committee on this Friday, April 24 at 10:30AM in Room 3 To 5. We have one measure on this agenda. That is Senate Bill 2892 SD 1 HD 1 relating to federal chickens on behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Kim as a co-Chair, and Fevella as a Member.

On behalf of the House, myself and Rep Kusch as co-Chairs and Representative Matsumoto as manager.

And Representative Chun, this bill appropriates funds for each county to facilitate the receipt, handling, and humane disposition of feral chickens that have been caught.

For the CD 1, we have agreement on language, which is to narrow down the appropriations requesting to fund only the city and county of Honolulu and adding a clean date. Companies have been distributed to members on both sides. Unfortunately, we do not have WAM and FIN approval.

So if you don't mind, I'd like to see both of you and your other Members and my other Members on Monday, April 27 at 10:30 in Room 3 To 5 Events.

Yep.

You can do that. Thank you. I'll do that then. Sure. Thank you.

Hello, mikako good morning. Mahalo for joining the Senate Agriculture Environment Committee and the House agriculture and food systems committee conference It's 11AM, Friday, April 24, Room 325. And to start off, we had SB 2102 SD 2 HD 2 relating to industrial hemp.

And for the Senate conferees, Gabbard and his Chair, Lamosao as co-Chair, Richards, Awa and his managers.

Looking for the House, we have myself and Representative as co Chairs and then Representative Kusch and Matsumoto as managers.

Okay. And on this one, Chair, we're still conferring on it. So if you're okay with you, we'd like to roll till Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30am here in Room Of 325. Okay? Alright.

Moving on to SB 2110. SD 1 HD 1 relating to AG, establishing a conservation agriculture and soil health incentive program. Let's see. With the Senate, Gabbard's Chair, Richard's co-Chair, and Rhoads's Manager.

On behalf of the House myself, Representatives Lowen and Kush as co-Chairs and Representatives Perruso, Matsumoto, as managers.

And I'm still waiting to get WAM release on this one. Have you got a date release yet?

Still waiting.

Let's roll this into also Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30am in CR 325.

Moving on.

SB2153 SD2 HD 1. Sorry. It's not sets up a I mean, DAB to convene a bonafide farmer working group. And let's see. Senate, Gabbard as Chair, Richards as co-Chair, DeCoite as manager.

I've got to ask myself and Representatives Kusch as co-Chairs and Representatives, Kahaloa and Matsumoto as managers.

And we're still working on this one as well, with the Chair. So if you can load this Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30am in Room 325. Moving on to SB 2319 SD 1 HD1, appropriating funds for applying full time equipment, grant writer positions in DAP. And for the Senate. Gavin is Chair, Richard is co-Chair, Awa as manager.

On behalf of the House, myself, Representative Chris as Co - Chairs, and Representative Matsumoto as manager.

So Chair, given that this has already been addressed through the budget, I've requested we defer this measure. Okay?

For this one, on SB 2319 , it's, we would have funded the conversion of DAB's grant writer position from private funds to general funds. And we've since learned that this funding has been included in the budget.

Thank you.

Do you have to do anything special to be heard? So SB 2319 is the third. And then moving on to to this SB 2321. Staffs me a two year, two lines, spit above response pilot program. And for the Senate gathering as Chair, Richards as co-Chair, Rhoads as manager.

And on behalf of the House, myself and Representatives Kusch as co-Chairs, and Representative Matsumoto as manager.

Still waiting on WAM release. How about FIN?

You got FIN yet? Okay. Waiting on WAM.

So we'll roll this one as well to Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30am and 03:25.

Okay. Moving on

to SB 2706 SB 1 HD 1. It's establishing a five year ag and bioscopy workers development pilot program within DAB. Let's see. And for the Senate, Gabbard as chair, Kim and Richards as co chairs, Awa as manager.

And I'm glad to announce myself. You know, Derek and vicious co chairs. I'm looking very much moving.

We're waiting on WAM release as well.

We'll be on Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30 in Room 325.

And we're moving on to SB 2800 funding for SD1 HD1, Funding for Irrigation Systems.

Appropriating funds to DAB, DLNR and ADC. With the Senate, Gabbard is Chair. Lee is co-chair. DeCoite and Richards as co-chair.

The house myself, Representatives Hashem and Kusch as co-chairs, and Representative Matsumoto as a manager.

Okay. So waiting on WAM release and you. Okay. And so we shall roll this one as well to Tuesday, April 28th at 09:30 and then 03:25. And next is SB 3233 SD 1 HD 2 requires state agencies, licenses, development programs.

For procurement involving AG cards to work points or preferences to AG projects. And for the Senate, Gabbard as chair, McKelvey and Richards as co chairs, Rhoads as manager.

Yes. And We'll roll this one to April 28, 09:30am in Room 325. And I shall turn it over to you. Okay.

And for House, myself, representative Miyake and Kusch as co chairs, and representative Matsumoto as manager. And waiting on WAM release.

The next bill is House Bill 1929 House Draft 1 Senate Draft 2, relating to Biosecurity. This is the Molokai Biosecurity Bill. So, on behalf of myself, it's I mean, be open to the House. It's myself and Representative Kusch as co-chairs and Representative Matsumoto as Manager.

And for the Senate, Gabbard/DeCoite as co-chair, and Rhoads and Awa as managers.

So for this one, you know also waiting release, but I think stuff to work out some details with the differences between the House and Senators.

Okay.

So, can we roll this to Wednesday 04/28?

Sounds good.

And then next up, we have House Bill 2152 HD2 SD2.

We're going to do that. This is the bill to increase penalties for that. And for the house, it's myself and Tarnas as co chairs and Kusch and Matsumoto as manager.

And for the Senate myself as chair, Rhoades as co chair, DeCoite Richards as managers.

Okay. I believe we have an agreement on this this measure. Yes. The Castro Archique version?

Yes.

Sorry, Ed. What's the agreement?

On the House version?

It's in the House Draft two version.

I can't agree to that.

Yes.

I can't agree to that, Mike.

Okay. Yeah. We're yeah.

Sorry, Mike. I know. I don't mean, you have to have a majority of the chairs.

And so I'm willing to work with you guys on it, but I don't I don't agree to the house. I don't agree to the house draft.

Okay. Let's just roll this out.

Okay. Yeah. I can go to some some time to place. So next Tuesday, we're trying to get this coverage. Okay. Last one on the agenda is House Bill 2551. Testing one This is for the a suppression program.

We have to house myself, Tarnas and Kusch as co chairs and Representative Matsumoto manager.

And for the Senate, Gabbard is chair, Richard is cochair, and the Wallace manager.

This one, I think, we're gonna do that. We're just waiting for okay. So we can just roll this up to April, Tuesday at thirty PM.

Morning. Good morning. Power House committee and Senate Joint Committee on the committee's recommendation for the purpose of reviewing several agenda items from us today. We have oral food, please. Senator?

Yes. Good morning. Aloha, everyone. Proceeding with the conference committee and on the first agenda item, SB 2053, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2 relating to transportation.

And, Members, this authorizes supporting documents used to transfer ownership of a motor vehicle to an insurance company after payment of damages from the result of a total loss insurance settlement to be signed electronically.

And the Members in our discussions, Chair Kila, I am so happy to proceed with this first initial hearing that the Senate agrees with the house draft two and with the CD 1 that has been circulated as well to all Members, including new Members as well.

And so we're happy to say that the changes will go with effective date as well. Yes. Yes.

And just for House rules to follow. Correct?

And to yes. And to introduce our Members. Oh, yeah. Okay. Please.

Thank you. Thank you so much. For the Senate, on SB 2053 House Draft 2, other conferees myself, Senator Inouye, as chair, and co chairs, Keohokalole, Rhoads, Elefante on this measure.

Thank you. For the House, it's myself and Chair Matayoshi as serving as co Chairs and Member Pierick. So the CD1 that we're voting on today was agreed upon with the effective date of our due to the HD 2 without 01/01/2020 let me double check. Sorry.

July 1, 2027 with concurrence of the company that this week's submission back.

Correct. Thank you, gentlemen. And if we're ready and Chair and Members can be going in and be sitting with the folks.

Oh, let me just

And if you do yes.

To just read your description. Sorry. For this bill, CD 1 operates 40 documents used to transfer ownership of owner vehicles insurance company insurance company after payment of damages from dissolved total loss of insurance settlement signed electronically.

Parts insurance companies indemnify and won't harm us to record payment. Party claims resulting in addition to motor vehicle rentals utilizing documents signed electronically with all the notary.

Effective 100,000 place in the CD 1.

K.

Thank you.

That's correct. Yep. May I we go with the folks on this measure as well on SB 2553. House Draft 2 CD 1. [Roll Call] K. Of the Senate, can I take the votes for the House?

For the House, please.

Alright. K. [Roll Call]

Thank you very much.

It's been adopted.

Thank you. Tony, Bill, you're on. Okay.

Yes. Thank you. Thank you.

Alright. We'll first are we ready for the next measure?

I mean, that's not right for me.

You know what? It's on the rest of them. Sorry. And I guess that's the only one it was missing. Okay. You want me to write it?

fine. Yeah. It's done already. So she yeah. She's ready to thank you.

Yeah. That's

Okay. Can we proceed then to the next one? SB 2851, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 2, and this is relating to deaf individuals. And for the Senate on this measure, Senator Inouye as Chair, co Chairs, McKelvey and Rhoads and member DeCorte.

And this measure, CD 1, has been circulated, and this is regarding the deaf individuals as well.

And this authorizes the deaf motor vehicle owners to register their vehicle as being owned by a deaf individual so that a deafness designated appears when a law enforcement officer accesses the motor vehicle's information.

And the Senate has agreed with the House Draft 1as well and with the effective date, January, and I think that we agreed upon.

Thank you. On behalf of the House, is myself, my co-Chair Poepoe with Member Muraoka, and for the old CD 1 of SB 2851, you're largely going to the House Draft 1 which is down to 41 decimal threshold for the demarcation of a deaf individual on their for the motor vehicle,

which authorizes owners to register vehicles owned by deaf individuals, so deafness designation appears. When law enforcement officer accesses the motor vehicle information with the CD 1 effective January 1, 2027.

Correct. Okay. Alright. With that said, Chair and Members, can we go ahead and take the vote on SB 2851, House Draft 2, and this is the recommendation of the House and the Senate is to pass with the amendments on the CD 1. You know, I'm going to assign my Chair.

I'm not on this.

Oh, you're not on this one. Yes. Okay. Okay.

Here we go. Okay. Thank you.

Okay. [Roll Call] Let me take a look. Please. [Roll Call] Good. Thank you.

Meassure is adopted. Thank you so much. K.

Thank you.

Okay. You got the time. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

This makes life easy. Thank you, guys. Okay. Can we proceed then, sir? And Members with regards to the third item on the hearing notice, and this is with regards to SB 3154, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2 relating to transportation of the environmental review.

For the Senate, the countries are myself, Senator Inouye's Chair co Chairs Gabbard and Rhoads and DeCoute as Member. And with regards to the transportation and environmental review, and this bill authorizes DOT to assume responsibilities under the National

Environmental Policy Act of 1969 for highway projects, as well as railroad public transportation or multi mobile modal projects within the state, allowing streamlined environmental reviews, provides a limited review of sovereign immunity to comply with the federal requirements.

And, with the, CD 1 that has been circulated, we go we have agreed upon, so far with the Senate version, which this bill covers a very, interesting and important measure on their environmental review

and that the bills were so perfect in its measure that only the date has been changed that it will take upon approval.

Thank you for working on this initiative.

Thank you, Senator.

The super sponsors under the National Fire Policy Act of 1969 for highway projects where a rural public transportation multimodal projects in the state, allowing to streamline environmental reviews and provides a limited waiver to power community to apply federal requirements.

I'll be in the house for this measure as myself, which are long history of fairness with MetroMoral. The CD1 else that we didn't agree upon is the SD2 of the current version of the bill with authorized as the current interpretation.

K. Thank you so much. Agree to then take a vote on this matter, Chair. Yes. Okay?

Thank you.

So the recognition of the conference Chairs is to pass with the CD1. [Roll Call] May I take a look at the House? [Roll Call]

Okay. Shall we proceed then with the last measure on the on this Friday, April 24, on the Senate bill? Bill. For this last Yes. Okay.

With regards to SB 3156 SD 1 House Draft 1, and this is relating to federal military installations for the Senate, Senator Inouye as Chair, co Chairs Rhoads, Kanuha and Rep. Senator Elefante as Member.

Thank you. For SB 3196 SD1 HD1, the Members that I have for this measure is myself as co Chair with co- Chairs Moriwaki, co-Chair Kitagawa which is a Member Muraoka. Senator, from my understanding, we don't have FIN released on this one yet.

Yes. And just to add to it, let me just read what this measure about as we continue discussions. And this authorizes DOT to enter into agreements with the United States Department of Defense for the provision of services at military at federal military installations under circumfantations of also

authorizes charging an administrative fee. Yes. And with regards to this measure, it needs certainly FIN and WAM's approval, and we're asking that this conference committee to reconvene at the pleasure of this measure, SB 8700 Draft 1, House Draft 1, SD 1, on Monday.

If it's agreeable, April 27 at 09:30am in the Conference Room, 329.

Yes. And the CD 1s have been proposed to Members and finance as well for us. So we hope that we may make purchase. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Members, the next mentioned before is HB1696 Commercial drivers license on behalf of myself, Walter Travis, and

Senator Greenwood.

Yes. Thank you. For the Senate Conferees on HB1696, myself, Senator Inouye as Chair, co-Chair, Rhoads, and Members of DeCorte.

Thank you, Senator. So the proposal that we'll be voting on is, RG, and this third version is SD1. Thank you for putting the other requirements in the future that's the state bill.

Largely, the HB 1696 CD1 has to close that we're voting on. We'll be lowering the age of major reports for being within the state from 19 to 18. Those requirements that person operates in categories we do most qualify and drive in the state.

There is first 21 from part of the street and property portion of the most checking over with serial transition program. Apprendership program is determined by Department of Labor and Industrial Relations.

Port structure on the job training program administered by the person's employers requires department transportation to manage school to lower the middle age for the commercial driver's license. And for this time, we have an effective date of July 1, 3000.

So the city wants circulated before both of us have agreement as such to inform the pool.

Yes. Okay. Thank you for working on this measure. Okay.

Alright.

Members, the Chair's recommendation is to adopt the CD1 amendments. [Roll Call]

[Roll Call] Thank you, Senator. We have a bill.

Thank you so much. Congratulations, please.

Thank you. Next one. Before assessing the HB 2021, HD 2 SD 2, I appreciate all chambers time and effort we've got to get, like, more rigorous important measure. During this two agendas. For HP 2021, I am on behalf of the health care of myself, co-Chair Tarnas, and Member Muraoka.

Okay. For the Senate on this measure, HB 2021, Senator Inouye, myself as chair, co chairs, Wakai, Rhoads.

Thank you, Senator. I appreciate all your folks' help on this measure, specifically in the Senate. If I can just share the CD one that we are adopting today, establishes a safe writing behavior to electrify both service operation and private collection and services and services.

Establish a saving and signage environment for electric bicycle service operation for one better electric bicycle. For appeals to use some motor drivers using bicycle name substitutes, motor scooter, motor driven cycle, and the CV one is effective upon approval.

Obviously, this see, while we're adopting this, that's how it's Draft 2 of HB 2021 with conforming amendments in just several chapters to make sure that the attorney generals can enforce these mechanisms. The CD 1 was quoted and agreed upon both chambers.

So at this time, Senator Inouye may time limit to the vote. So the Chair's recommendation is adopt HB 2021 HD 2 SC 2 CD 1 as proposed. [Roll Call]

Do I need to vote for the Senate? [Roll Call]

Thank you. We have a bill.

Thank you so much.

We're going to turn today. Senator Inouye is getting recognized.

Thank you.

We'll give it that. We're adjourned. Thank you.

Good afternoon. This is our Friday, 04/24/2026, 03:30PM conference committee in Capitol Room 224. The first measure is SB 888 Senate draft two, House draft two relating to consumer protection. On behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, Rhodes co Chair, Senator Awa, manager.

On behalf of the House we have myself as co Chair, Rep Tardis as a co Chair who is excused, and co Chair Pierick. I'm sorry, Pierick is a manager Member.

Okay. Thank you. I believe we have a a conference, Jeff, that we have sent over for your review. Can we reconvene on this on Monday, the 27th at 02:40PM in the afternoon.

Monday.

Monday. Okay.

02:40 in the afternoon PM here in Conference Room 224. Okay. Thank you.

April 27.

Yes. Okay. 224.

Sounds good. Okay.

Thank you. Next measure Oh, at the request of the Judiciary Chair, he asked if we could just roll this to the end of the four bill agendas.

2487.

Yeah. So if we just move on to, SB 2487 Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1 relating to the Public Utilities Commission on behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, Wakai, Inouye co Chairs, McKelvey, Awa, managers.

On behalf of the house myself as Chair, co Chairs, Matayoshi, Perruso, and manager Matsumoto. Okay. If we have agreement, but we're just waiting for a big round.

So we also received the PUC memo today that I'm, perusing and awaiting a response and clarification from the PUC Chair on because it's quite confusing. So, yeah, can we roll this to Monday?

Yes. 02:40 here in 224.

That's right. The 27th. Right. Thank you. And then can we move to the last measure?

SB 3001. SD 2 HD 3 relating to artificial intelligence. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Elefante, co Chair Rhoads excused, McKelvey excused, the law manager.

On behalf of myself, we have myself as co chair along with, reps Illegon and Tam as co Chairs who are excused. I'm sorry. Illegon and Tarnas as co chairs who are excused. Reps Tam and Gedeon as managers also excused.

Okay. Chair, thank you very much for your diligent work on this. You know, my hope is that this is the vehicle. It has the appropriate title because in addition to protection of minors, there are some broader provisions that we really wanna make sure are included for the overall

protection of the public and prevention of, things like suicidal ideation and self harm and danger to the public. So we've prepared a CD that, I'd like to present to you for your review.

Covers much of the substance that has been that has been weighed in the two measures on this subject matter as they've gone through the legislative session.

So if I might just briefly, the the, you know, the overall objectives is to make sure that there's a clear disclosure when an AI chatbot is being engaged by a consumer.

That there are protocols in place when the dialogue heads into territory that could stimulate violence and that there are notices that developer of the technology needs to engage in future restriction when it comes to minors.

Yeah. And I and I do appreciate thank you for the dialogue again on this bill. I appreciate the Senate's willingness to put in the, harm or imminent danger to others as well as I felt that was strongly needed in order to,

protect the public if these AI chat bots do get an indication that others are at harm or are at risk of harm from individuals engaging with it.

Yeah. Thank you. So can we reconvene on this measure on Monday, the twenty seventh at 2:40PM here in Conference Room 224?

Thank you very much. And so we'll move to the last measure on this agenda. SB 2,471 Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2 relating to the powers of artificial persons. On behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, Rhoads co Chair, Fukunaga, McKelvey exclude excused, and Senator Awa manager.

Yep. Sounds good.

On behalf of the house, we have myself and repress harness as co chair. Represseruso and Pierrick as managers.

Thank you for your work on this measure and the ongoing dialogue on on how hopefully we can come to an agreement on this bill that makes this really important piece of legislation happen.

With your indulgence, we are working on a conference draft that I would like to present to you as soon as it is ready. And can we reconvene on this on Monday, same time, April 27, 02:40PM, and Conference Room 224?

02:40PM, 224. Yeah. And then thank you for your patience in this too. I appreciate the dialogue with the Senate. I am talking with, legal scholars right now, about this bill.

There are some potential flaws that, I'm trying to vet out right now. What I don't want is for us to pass this bill and to put Hawaii in a worse position than it is it is already in.

And I'm also concerned that we're gonna get a bad federal ruling that's gonna make the Citizens United case pale in comparison to. So with that being said, I do appreciate the intent of this bill, and I'm supportive of the intent of it.

I wanna vet it out to make sure that we're not doing more harm than good.

Your concern is noted. Happy to keep talking.

Thank you for your turn.

Thank you.

Welcome to the conference committee meeting. It's Friday. April 24 is 2PM agenda. It's just after two. Here we are in Conference Room 325 for the purpose of considering two measures. Thank you very much. The senators for being here.

You're all very busy. Appreciate you being here so we can act on these measures. Let's go ahead and get started. First one, House Bill 1682 House Draft 1 Senate Draft 2, relating to the Disclosure of Intimate Images.

On behalf of the House, we have myself as chair, Representative Poepoe, Representative Ratcliffe, and Representative Shimizu as members.

Thank you, chair. On behalf of the Senate, Elefante as chair, Rhoads and Lamosao are co-chairs.

Thank you. We have circulated a proposed CD1. I'm hoping that you were able to take a look at it.

Yes. We have received a proposed CD1 and it looks good on our end for us.

Great. If with your concurrence, I'd like to move forward and take a vote on this.

Yes.

Okay. Great. This, measure establishes Civil Remedies for the Unauthorized Disclosure of Intimate Images. That's the description. I'll go ahead and take the vote up for the house first.

Chair votes aye. Representative Poepoe is Excused. Well, she might show up. So, I'll take Representative Ratcliffe?

Aye.

Representative Shimizu?

Aye.

And Representative Poepoe is excused. May I take the vote for the Senate?

Please.

Chair Elefante?

Aye.

Co-chair Rhoads?

Aye.

Co-chair Lamosao?

Aye.

We have a bill. Thank you.

Thank you for your work on that chair.

Absolutely. And thanks to vice speaker for her able assistance.

This is your bill.

Thank you.

Yes. Our next one is our last bill on the agenda is SB 2135 Senate draft two House draft one. This is relating to privacy. We sent all first up on behalf of the Senate is myself, Elefante, as chair, and co chair Rhoads and member Lamosao.

I'm I need to get somebody else here. On behalf of the House, it's myself as chair, representative Belatti, Poepoe, and Shimizu as managers.

So for I know you I know you're working on getting members.

Yes. But you go ahead and make sure

We sent over a proposed CD1 draft. I'm not sure if you had time to review it.

I have, and I'm, I support the the proposed city one. Thank you for your hard work on that.

Thank you. And just so that you know and the public, there were some concerns that were raised by the attorney general, and those concerns were addressed and the proposed city one language,

And we did confirm that by reviewing the attorney general's input and the proposed draft and that was consistent, so I think it's all good. Okay?

Yeah. Let's let's go ahead and recess for a moment till I get one more member here. Recess. Reconvening the conference committee meeting.

That's good. So you wanna recess?

Again, it's still Friday, April 24th. We're now at 02:10. We're on the 2PM agenda, Conference Room 325, and we're considering Senate bill and turn it over to Chair Elefante.

Yes. Thank you. As we should be just described before we went into recess. You did. We reviewed the compulsory one. We're good, and I think we're ready to take a vote. We don't need WAM refutab;e. So that's for the future.

That that's good with me. And if I'll, briefly Yep. Read the, description, this, establishes the offense of nonconsensual disclosure of an intimate image.

Okay. With that, we'll proceed for the vote.

The recommendation is to pass AACD 1. For the Senate, Chair Elefante, I vote aye.

Yes, please.

Member Lamosao?

Aye.

May I take the vote for the house?

Co chair Rhoads?

Aye.

Yes, please. Okay.

Aye.

Okay. Chair Tarnas?

Member Belatti.

And member Shimizu.

Aye.

Excuse. Excuse. Member Poepoe.

We have a bill.

Yay. Thank you. Thank you, Chair Rhoads.

Thanks. See you soon.

Yes. See you soon.

Thank you.

We have a three. Okay.

There's a 03:00.

Not but that's not you. That's that's, Garcia. I think you're you're back to the tent. We're still live here.

Okay. Sounds good.

There's been no further business before us today. We are adjourned.

Welcome to the conference committee meeting. It's Friday, April 24, 3PM here in Conference Room 325. Thank you to the senators for being here and also to the House members.

We're here to consider House Bill 1667, House draft 1, Senate draft 1 related to Civil identification. On behalf of the House, we have myself, representative Tarnas as chair, and we have representatives Poepoe, Ratcliffe, and Garcia as managers.

On behalf of the Senate, myself is chair, Rhodes as co chair Chang as manager.

Thank you. Chair Okhai, we've, shared with you and your co chair Rhodes proposed CD one, which is basically the Senate draft language with a effective date of 07/01/2027. Yes. And I hope that you've had a chance to look at your concurred that we could go take this to a vote.

Yes. I concur.

That's great. Thank you. So this measure lowers the age to obtain a state civil identification card without a signature from a parent or guardian from 18 years old to 16 years old. So I'll go ahead and start to take a vote on that one. Recommendation is to pass with amendments.

Chair votes aye. Representative Poepoe.

Representative Ratcliffe. Aye. Representative Garcia. No vote. May I take the vote for the Senate?

Aye.

Yes, please. Chair Wakai? Yes. And co chair Rhodes? Aye.

And Senator Chang is excused. We have a we have a bill. Congratulations. We're getting open business before us today. We are adjourned.

Welcome, everyone to Conference Committee on a number of bills, starting out with Senate Bill 2152, which proposes an amendment to Article 6 Section 3 of the Hawaii Constitution to Increase the Mandatory Retirement State Judges and Justices to 75, it's currently 70. For the Senate, it's myself as chair. Co-chair is Senator Kim and, Fevella manager.

Thank you. On behalf of the House, Co-chairs; Representative Tarnas, Representative Hartsfield and members Representatives Belatti, Poepoe and Shimizu.

We have. I believe we've agreed on CD1. That was just a date, and we have made our FIN, WAM requests, and I don't have sign off yet.

Yeah. I do not either. So let's reconvene on this.

To 2PM on Monday, the 27th?

Yes.

Here in Conference Room 325.

Alright. Moving on. SB 2247. This is related to Political Fundraising by Executive Branch employees. Myself is chair, Lee as co-chair and Awa as manager.

Thank you. On behalf of the House, Co-chairs; Representative Tarnas, Representative Keohokapu-Lee Loy and managers Representative Poepoe and Representative Garcia.

We have the same situation here. We do have the CD1.

Yes.

And we sent the request to WAM and waiting for response.

Yes that's correct.

Great, we'll roll this to 02:00 on Monday. April 27 in this room 325 as well.

Yes. Thank you.

you. Next up. We have SB 2532 or then the campaign state commission filing system. The Senate. It's myself.

Stick it.

So your latest co chair in the last chapter.

Thank you. On behalf of the house, we have co chairs representative Tarnas and Hartsfield and managers Representatives Poepoe and Garcia. I believe

we have agreement on this one. Yes. And I believe we have WAM and Finance approval. Two?

Okay. Yes. Yes. We have received finance approval. Thank you, representative Hartsfield, and we are prepared to take this to a vote.

Do you want to do your so this?

Yes, I will do my Yes. Senate Bill 2532. This measure amends various section sections of Hawaii's campaign spending laws by requiring designated campaign finance forms to be submitted electronically through the campaign spending commissions upgraded electronic filing system. And, we have made this, and the effective date is what is the effective date on this one?

Of course. September. That's alright?

Yes. Yes. We made this effective yesterday after the election to

make sure that we deal with

the next one. Yes. Okay. Let's take a super vote.

I will vote yes. Senator Lee. Aye. Senator Loi. Aye.

May I take a vote for the house?

Yes, please. Chair cochair Tarnas. Aye.

Cochair Hartsfield. Aye. Manager Poipoi. Aye.

And manager Garcia

We've got a vote. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, Senator Lee.

Let me next number over here. K.

Alright. Next item on the Agenda is SB 2239 relating to Voter registration. It's about an automatic voter registration identification cards for the sentence myself as chair Chang and Aniwah as managers.

Thank you on behalf of the house, Co-chairs Representatives Tarnas and Perruso and managers Poepoe and Garcia.

This one, we're still working on a CD1 if you can just roll this.

Let's yeah. Let's do that. I think we've had some discussion about it, but I look forward to your next, proposed CD1 on that one.

Roll to 2PM on, Monday, the 27th in this room 325.

Yes. Thank you.

Thank you. Next up

Next up is SB 2446. This adds one more ICE and Intermediate Court of Appeals Judge. We've agreed on a CD1. This is just sorry. I'm calling to slow down.

For the Senate, myself as chair, co-chair is Senator Kim, Awa as a manager.

Thank you. On behalf of the house, we have co-chairs Representatives Tarnas and Hartsfield, and managers Poepoe and Garcia.

So we do have agreed upon CD1, and we have made this FIN, WAM requests and we're just awaiting the response.

That's correct. So let's roll this over and reconvene on a Monday.

2PM, 04:27 in this room 325.

Yes. Thank you.

Thank you. Next up is SB 2721.

Hawaii Penal Code; Advisory Committee Recommendations. We do have CD1, I believe, we passed over. Are you guys okay with that?

We're okay with this, and I on behalf of the house, we have co-chairs, Representatives Tarnas and Kusch, and members Poepoe and Garcia.

I was gonna try to make it through this conference. My last conference was not about doing that making that mistake, and I. For the Senate, myself as chair and Senators Chang and Gabbard as manager.

Thank you for your proposed CD1, and I made a request to FIN for a release that does not ask for the money that Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation had said the need for additional ankle monitors. I just don't want to lose this bill because of in appropriations. So, I'm asking for release on this without appropriation.

I concur.

Okay. And that's even more appropriate because you do not have Ways and Means as a referral on yours.

So hopefully, I will get that. We don't have it yet. So, let's reconvene on it.

So reconvene at 2PM on 4/27 in this Room 225.

Yes.

Thank you. Just bring that brings us to SB 2919, relating to the Office of the Public Defender Position. For the Senate, myself as chair. Co-chair Elefante and manager Awa.

On behalf of the house, we have co-chairs; Representatives Tarnas and Kusch, and members; Poepoe and Garcia.

I do have that on your list yet.

We've agreed on a CD1, and the request of the agenda has been made.

Okay.

Yes. And we haven't gotten any response yet. So let's reconvene on this offer.

Okay. 2PM, 4/27 in this room 325

Yes. Thank you.

Next up is SB 3076, related to Tobacco Enforcement. For the Senate, it's myself as chair, Elefante co-chair, and Awa manager.

Thank you. On behalf of the house, we have co-chairs Representatives Tarnas and Hartsfield and managers Poepoe and Garcia.

I think it's a similar situation. We've agreed on a cd1 and WAM, FIN request has been sent in.

That's correct. And we're still awaiting response.

That's correct.

Okay.

Alright. Let's roll up till Monday, 2PM, 4/27 in this room. 03:25. That's acceptable.

Yes. That's great. Thank you very much.

Next one's yours.

House Bill 2050 House Draft one Center draft one related to partial public financing of elections, on this we have, co chairs, representatives Tarnas and Perusso and managers, Pilates, Poipo, and Garcia.

For the sense, myself as chair, co chair of Senator Kim and Andrew Wong.

Thank you. I think we've agreed about a proposed conference draft one and have requested release from finance in ways and means and we have not heard any response to this time. So if it's okay with you, I'd like to reconvene on this Monday, 04/27/2026 here in Conference Room 325 at 2PM.

Perfect. Thank you.

Thank you. Next measure, House Bill 2094, House Draft one, Senate Draft one, relating to jury duty. On behalf of the House, we have co chairs, representatives, Tarnas and Kush and managers Pallotti, Poipoi and Shamiz.

Myself as chair and Elwhari as manager.

Thank you. We have also a proposed CD 1 on this one and we have requested pen and when release and we have not received that release. I'd like to reconvene on this on Monday.

Monday, this would be April 27 at 2PM here in Conference Room 325.

on this agenda, House bill 2095, House draft two, Senate draft two. This is the judiciary budget. On behalf of the House, we have co chairs representatives Darnas and Kush and managers Pointe and Shanisu.

For senators, myself as chair, Milwaukee co chair.

Thank you and I have recommended that we go with the House draft two, to our finance negotiators and request a release on that. Clearly, this has to be negotiated between finance and ways and means and they are not gonna move on this until the state budget comes out. So we've not received any response on this with Europe concurrence.

Let's reconvene on this, also on Monday. Okay, so that would be reconvening at Monday, 04/27/2026 at 2PM here in Conference Room 325. There being no further business before us today, we are adjourned.

Welcome to the House and Senate Conference Committee meeting. Today is Friday, 04/24/2026. It the time is 03:41PM, Conference Room 325. At the top of the agenda, we have HB 1838 relating to visas. We have our house confreres, representative Illegant, Tarnas, Hussey co chairs, and representative Tam Gideon as members.

Resince myself as chair, Senator Elefante as cochair and Awa as a manager.

Senator, we're still working on the CD one. Would you mind if we roll this over Monday, April 27, 03:40PM, afternoon twenty two five? Correct. Alright. Rolled over.

Meeting adjourned.

Thank Alright. Welcome, everyone, to our latest conference. It's 03:50 here in Room 325. The bill that we have on this agenda is Senate Bill 2568. It's relating to Defenses against Public servants. For the sentence myself as chair and senators Gabbard in Chang as managers.

For the house, we have myself and Rep Tarnas as co chairs, Reyes Oda as manager.

What we're gonna suggest was the only part that we're not weren't quite there yet on is the definition or the definition of harassment on house draft two, page five, starting for you for line three. We were hoping to narrow it a little bit to say harassment is a misdemeanor committed against a public servant because of or while the public servant is performing official duties. Yes. We we agree with that. Okay.

And then make it effective for approval. Is that acceptable?

Yes. Okay.

We're we're good to go then.

Before we vote, may I I'm sorry. Thank you. So to clarify, this bill elevates the offense of harassment to a misdemeanor when committed against a public servant because of ordering the performance of official duties. And like, Joe Rhoades had mentioned, this will be effective upon approval. Thank you.

I believe we're now ready to vote.

Great. Thank you. So we'll do AC 1. I'll vote yes. Senator Gabbard is excused.

Senator Chang. Aye. I'm gonna take the vote for the house. Yes. Co-chair Sayana.

Aye.

Co-chair Tarnas.