Conference Committee

Good morning. I'd like to call to order our conference committee hearing with, house and Senate. It is Friday, April 24, and we are on our 10:05 agenda, and it is 10:10AM, and we're in Conference Room 224.

Thank you, Senators and everybody, for being here today and and house members. First item on the agenda is HP 1711 HD1 SD 2 relating to housing.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chair and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Senate conferees are co- Chairs myself and Senator Hashimoto and conferees Senator Elefante .

For this bill, we have agreement, and we are waiting on FIN and WAM release. So if it's okay with you, Senator Chang, if we can roll this over to Monday, April 27 at 10:05 in the same room, 224.

Sounds good.

Okay. Great. Next item on the agenda is HB1713 HD1 SD1, no end to school impact fees. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Senate Conseil, include, Chair Chang, co-Chairs Senators Kim and Hashimoto.

This bill, we have agreement that we're waiting on a final CD1. So we haven't yet put in for release. So if it's agreeable to you, Senator, if we can roll this over also to Monday, same time, same time, same place. Great. Thank you.

So that's 10:05, Room 224. Next item is HB 1718 HD 1 SD 1 Relating to Housing. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Hashim and Miyake as co-Chairs and Representatives Yamashita and Cochran as managers.

Senator conferees, I include myself as and myself as Chair and senators Wakai and Hashimoto as co-Chairs.

And we also have agreement on this that we're waiting on the final CD1 to put in for a release. So it's agreeable to you. Also rolling this over to Monday, 10:05AM, Conference Room 224. Sure.

Next item is HB 1740 HD2 SD2, relating to the Hawaii Housing Finance and Development Corporation.

On behalf of myself I mean, on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Hashim and Miyake as co-Chairs and Representative Cochran as manager.

Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co Chair Senator Elefante , and Congressman Alexander Lewis.

And on this, we do not yet have agreement, though we are very, very close in waiting for a final CD 1 this afternoon to discuss. So if it's agreeable to you, again, rolling this over to Monday, Conference Room 224 at 10:05AM. Sure.

Thank you. Next item is HB1920 HD1 SD2, relating to the low income housing tax credit.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Senate managers and myself as Chair and co Chair Senator Hashimoto and conferee Senator Rhoads.

And we have agreement on this, and we're waiting on FIN and WAM release. So same thing. If you're okay, if we could roll this over to Monday, Conference Room 224, 10:05.

Sure. Senate Bill 2069, SD 2 HD 1, relating to the dwelling unit revolving funds. Senate managers are myself as Chair , co-Chair Senator Hashimoto, and conferee Senator Rhoads.

And on behalf of the house, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co Chairs, and manager Representative Cochran.

Okay. I think we have agreement in principle, although we're still waiting for the attorney general. So, let's, reconvene on this bill on Monday at 10:05AM in this room.

Sounds great.

For Senate Bill 2338, SD 1 HD2 relating to housing, the Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co-Chair Senator Hashimoto, and conferees Senator Elefante.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Sayama and Miyake as co-Chairs and managers, Representative Muraoka.

Okay. I think we're still working on the CD 1 here. So why don't we reconvene on this measure on Monday at ten and 5AM in this room?

Sounds good.

Senate Bill 2554 relating to housing. Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co-Chair Senator Hashimoto, and conferees Senator Rhoads.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chairs, and Representative Cochran as manager.

Okay. I think we have agreement of principle, on a CD1 to clean the date, but we are still awaiting them. So why don't we reconvene on this bill on Monday at 10:05AM in this room?

Sounds good.

For Senate bill two five five two, s d one h d one relating to the individual housing account program, Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co-Chair Senator Hashimoto, and conferees Senator Fevella.

And on behalf of the House, myself and Representative Miyake as co Chairs and Representative Matsumoto as manager.

On this bill, I believe we have agreement on a CD1 to, change the maximum deduction contribution amounts to $20,000 for an individual taxpayer in a single taxable year, 40,000 for a married couple filing jointly, and 200,000 for all taxable years in aggregate, and also to clean the date.

But we do not have landlords.

Yep.

So why don't we reconvene on Monday at 10:05AM in this room?

Sounds good.

Having no further business, this agenda is adjourned.

Good morning. I'd like to call to order our conference committee hearing with the House and Senate. It is Friday, April 24. We are on our 10:10 agenda here in Conference Room 224. First item on the agenda is HB 1721 HD 2 SD 2 related to housing on behalf of the House.

We have myself and Representative Matayoshi and Tarnas as co Chairs and Representative Cochran as manager.

On behalf of the Senate myself is Chair, Chang, Keohokalole as co-Chair, Fevella as a member.

And I believe we have agreement here on a CD1. We do not need FIN and WAM release, so so I believe we're ready to vote.

Your belief has come true.

Thank you, sir. This will be our my our first bill here of, of this session. This bill clarifies insurance indemnification and certain certificate of occupancy requirements for purposes of expedited permits. It requires state or county inspectors to inspect all projects with expedited permits.

The agreement we have is to adopt the language of the SD 2, but make it effective upon approval. Is that good with you?

Yep. Thank you for your good work.

Alright. I we will go ahead and take the vote. So the recommendation of the house and Senate managers is to pass, with amendments to make it effective upon approval of the SD2. [Roll Call] And may I have behalf I take the vote for the Senate?

Yes, please.

[Roll Call] Measure passes.

We have a bill. Thank you, sir.

You're welcome. Thank you. We will now move on to the next measure. That is Senate Bill 3218 SD2 HD 2 relating to bonds. On behalf of the Senate, myself is Cher Hashimoto as co-Chair and Fevella as a member.

And on behalf of the house, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-Chairs and Representative Moraoka as manager.

On, this measure, it's significant to the to the development community. Appreciate working with you, and we've come up with all the language.

And I need to mention to to the public that this bill makes amendments for purposes of the resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity act and conform state laws concerning county debt limits to permit counties to exclude resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds from the debt limit of the counties.

If a constitutional amendment authorizing the use of resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds and excluding resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds, determinations of the county's fund debt is ratified. Apparently, a lawyer wrote that.

For the CD 1, we have agreement on that language, which is to add a clean date and copies have been distributed to the managers. Unfortunately, we do not have the money chairs released yet. So if it's okay with you, I'd like to reconvene here in Room 224 on Monday, April 27 at 10:10.

Sounds good.

The last measure on this agenda is Senate Bill 3219 HD 3 , proposing amendments to Article 7, section 12 and 13 of the Hawaii state constitution. Twin to the previous bill and needs to go hand in hand with it.

But unfortunately, again, we do not have money committee clearance on this. Language has been all cleared up, and we'd like to reconvene and see your handsome face here on Monday, April 27 at 10:10 in Room 224.

Yes. And do you wanna so on this bill, yeah, we are submitting language to the governor's office with the with the ballot language. Do you wanna walk us through that, Senator?

I certainly do. This bill amends the Hawaii state constitution to expressly provide that the legislature may authorize political subdivisions to issue resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds for specified public works,

public improvements, or other actions necessary for housing and community development, and exclude these bonds from determinations of the funded debt of the political subdivisions.

It further goes on to say that the Chairs have, while we have worked on and have agreed to the language of the CD1 and the constitutional amendments, encompassing this bill, copies have been distributed to the managers.

And we are as making a minor change to the ballot question suggested by the AG's office and to allow the phrase quote to direct the legislature. The ballot question will now read, bear with me.

This is what the public's gonna see this fall. Shall the Hawaii state constitution be amended to direct the legislature to authorize the counties to issue resilient infrastructure for shelter and equity bonds to fund public improvements in designated districts,

repaid solely by future growth in property tax revenues within those districts, not increasing real property taxes, where such bonds are excluded from the county's debt limit and are subject to accountability and oversight requirements as may be provided by law.

The first part is moving this Conant and Bill through the legislative process and sending the governor the amendments to the constitution in the bill, which will be done today.

And as mentioned, we do not have RAM and FIN release, so I'd like to see you back here on Monday, the 27th at 10:10 in Room 221.

That sounds great. Thank you, sir.

Thanks for bearing with me.

Thank you for joining us for this conference committee on this Friday, April 24 at 10:30AM in Room 3 To 5. We have one measure on this agenda. That is Senate Bill 2892 SD 1 HD 1 relating to federal chickens on behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Kim as a co-Chair, and Fevella as a Member.

On behalf of the House, myself and Rep Kusch as co-Chairs and Representative Matsumoto as manager.

And Representative Chun, this bill appropriates funds for each county to facilitate the receipt, handling, and humane disposition of feral chickens that have been caught.

For the CD 1, we have agreement on language, which is to narrow down the appropriations requesting to fund only the city and county of Honolulu and adding a clean date. Companies have been distributed to members on both sides. Unfortunately, we do not have WAM and FIN approval.

So if you don't mind, I'd like to see both of you and your other Members and my other Members on Monday, April 27 at 10:30 in Room 3 To 5 Events.

Yep.

You can do that. Thank you. I'll do that then. Sure. Thank you.

Hello, mikako good morning. Mahalo for joining the Senate Agriculture Environment Committee and the House agriculture and food systems committee conference It's 11AM, Friday, April 24, Room 325. And to start off, we had SB 2102 SD 2 HD 2 relating to industrial hemp.

And for the Senate conferees, Gabbard and his Chair, Lamosao as co-Chair, Richards, Awa and his managers.

Looking for the House, we have myself and Representative as co Chairs and then Representative Kusch and Matsumoto as managers.

Okay. And on this one, Chair, we're still conferring on it. So if you're okay with you, we'd like to roll till Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30am here in Room Of 325. Okay? Alright.

Moving on to SB 2110. SD 1 HD 1 relating to AG, establishing a conservation agriculture and soil health incentive program. Let's see. With the Senate, Gabbard's Chair, Richard's co-Chair, and Rhoads's Manager.

On behalf of the House myself, Representatives Lowen and Kush as co-Chairs and Representatives Perruso, Matsumoto, as managers.

And I'm still waiting to get WAM release on this one. Have you got a date release yet?

Still waiting.

Let's roll this into also Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30am in CR 325.

Moving on.

SB2153 SD2 HD 1. Sorry. It's not sets up a I mean, DAB to convene a bonafide farmer working group. And let's see. Senate, Gabbard as Chair, Richards as co-Chair, DeCoite as manager.

I've got to ask myself and Representatives Kusch as co-Chairs and Representatives, Kahaloa and Matsumoto as managers.

And we're still working on this one as well, with the Chair. So if you can load this Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30am in Room 325. Moving on to SB 2319 SD 1 HD1, appropriating funds for applying full time equipment, grant writer positions in DAP. And for the Senate. Gavin is Chair, Richard is co-Chair, Awa as manager.

On behalf of the House, myself, Representative Chris as Co - Chairs, and Representative Matsumoto as manager.

So Chair, given that this has already been addressed through the budget, I've requested we defer this measure. Okay?

For this one, on SB 2319 , it's, we would have funded the conversion of DAB's grant writer position from private funds to general funds. And we've since learned that this funding has been included in the budget.

Thank you.

Do you have to do anything special to be heard? So SB 2319 is the third. And then moving on to to this SB 2321. Staffs me a two year, two lines, spit above response pilot program. And for the Senate gathering as Chair, Richards as co-Chair, Rhoads as manager.

And on behalf of the House, myself and Representatives Kusch as co-Chairs, and Representative Matsumoto as manager.

Still waiting on WAM release. How about FIN?

You got FIN yet? Okay. Waiting on WAM.

So we'll roll this one as well to Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30am and 03:25.

Okay. Moving on

to SB 2706 SB 1 HD 1. It's establishing a five year ag and bioscopy workers development pilot program within DAB. Let's see. And for the Senate, Gabbard as chair, Kim and Richards as co chairs, Awa as manager.

And I'm glad to announce myself. You know, Derek and vicious co chairs. I'm looking very much moving.

We're waiting on WAM release as well.

We'll be on Tuesday, April 28 at 09:30 in Room 325.

And we're moving on to SB 2800 funding for SD1 HD1, Funding for Irrigation Systems.

Appropriating funds to DAB, DLNR and ADC. With the Senate, Gabbard is Chair. Lee is co-chair. DeCoite and Richards as co-chair.

The house myself, Representatives Hashem and Kusch as co-chairs, and Representative Matsumoto as a manager.

Okay. So waiting on WAM release and you. Okay. And so we shall roll this one as well to Tuesday, April 28th at 09:30 and then 03:25. And next is SB 3233 SD 1 HD 2 requires state agencies, licenses, development programs.

For procurement involving AG cards to work points or preferences to AG projects. And for the Senate, Gabbard as chair, McKelvey and Richards as co chairs, Rhoads as manager.

And for House, myself, representative Miyake and Kusch as co chairs, and representative Matsumoto as manager. And waiting on WAM release.

Yes. And We'll roll this one to April 28, 09:30am in Room 325. And I shall turn it over to you. Okay.

The next bill is House Bill 1929 House Draft 1 Senate Draft 2, relating to Biosecurity. This is the Molokai Biosecurity Bill. So, on behalf of myself, it's I mean, be open to the House. It's myself and Representative Kusch as co-chairs and Representative Matsumoto as Manager.

And for the Senate, Gabbard/DeCoite as co-chair, and Rhoads and Awa as managers.

So for this one, you know also waiting release, but I think stuff to work out some details with the differences between the House and Senators.

Okay.

So, can we roll this to Wednesday 04/28?

Sounds good.

And then next up, we have House Bill 2152 HD2 SD2.

We're going to do that. This is the bill to increase penalties for that. And for the house, it's myself and Tarnas as co chairs and Kusch and Matsumoto as manager.

And for the Senate myself as chair, Rhoades as co chair, DeCoite Richards as managers.

Okay. I believe we have an agreement on this this measure. Yes. The Castro Archique version?

Yes.

Sorry, Ed. What's the agreement?

On the House version?

It's in the House Draft two version.

I can't agree to that.

Yes.

I can't agree to that, Mike.

Okay. Yeah. We're yeah.

Sorry, Mike. I know. I don't mean, you have to have a majority of the chairs.

And so I'm willing to work with you guys on it, but I don't I don't agree to the house. I don't agree to the house draft.

Okay. Let's just roll this out.

Okay. Yeah. I can go to some some time to place. So next Tuesday, we're trying to get this coverage. Okay. Last one on the agenda is House Bill 2551. Testing one This is for the a suppression program.

We have to house myself, Tarnas and Kusch as co chairs and Representative Matsumoto manager.

And for the Senate, Gabbard is chair, Richard is cochair, and the Wallace manager.

This one, I think, we're gonna do that. We're just waiting for okay. So we can just roll this up to April, Tuesday at thirty PM.

Morning. Good morning. Power House committee and Senate Joint Committee on the committee's recommendation for the purpose of reviewing several agenda items from us today. We have oral food, please. Senator?

Yes. Good morning. Aloha, everyone. Proceeding with the conference committee and on the first agenda item, SB 2053, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2 relating to transportation.

And, Members, this authorizes supporting documents used to transfer ownership of a motor vehicle to an insurance company after payment of damages from the result of a total loss insurance settlement to be signed electronically.

And the Members in our discussions, Chair Kila, I am so happy to proceed with this first initial hearing that the Senate agrees with the house draft two and with the CD 1 that has been circulated as well to all Members, including new Members as well.

And so we're happy to say that the changes will go with effective date as well. Yes. Yes.

And just for House rules to follow. Correct?

And to yes. And to introduce our Members. Oh, yeah. Okay. Please.

Thank you. Thank you so much. For the Senate, on SB 2053 House Draft 2, other conferees myself, Senator Inouye, as chair, and co chairs, Keohokalole, Rhoads, Elefante on this measure.

Thank you. For the House, it's myself and Chair Matayoshi as serving as co Chairs and Member Pierick. So the CD1 that we're voting on today was agreed upon with the effective date of our due to the HD 2 without 01/01/2020 let me double check. Sorry.

July 1, 2027 with concurrence of the company that this week's submission back.

Correct. Thank you, gentlemen. And if we're ready and Chair and Members can be going in and be sitting with the folks.

Oh, let me just

And if you do yes.

To just read your description. Sorry. For this bill, CD 1 operates 40 documents used to transfer ownership of owner vehicles insurance company insurance company after payment of damages from dissolved total loss of insurance settlement signed electronically.

Parts insurance companies indemnify and won't harm us to record payment. Party claims resulting in addition to motor vehicle rentals utilizing documents signed electronically with all the notary.

Effective 100,000 place in the CD 1.

K.

Thank you.

That's correct. Yep. May I we go with the folks on this measure as well on SB 2553. House Draft 2 CD 1. [Roll Call] K. Of the Senate, can I take the votes for the House?

For the House, please.

Alright. K. [Roll Call]

Thank you very much.

It's been adopted.

Thank you. Tony, Bill, you're on. Okay.

Yes. Thank you. Thank you.

Alright. We'll first are we ready for the next measure?

I mean, that's not right for me.

You know what? It's on the rest of them. Sorry. And I guess that's the only one it was missing. Okay. You want me to write it?

fine. Yeah. It's done already. So she yeah. She's ready to thank you.

Yeah. That's

Okay. Can we proceed then to the next one? SB 2851, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 2, and this is relating to deaf individuals. And for the Senate on this measure, Senator Inouye as Chair, co Chairs, McKelvey and Rhoads and member DeCorte.

And this measure, CD 1, has been circulated, and this is regarding the deaf individuals as well.

And this authorizes the deaf motor vehicle owners to register their vehicle as being owned by a deaf individual so that a deafness designated appears when a law enforcement officer accesses the motor vehicle's information.

And the Senate has agreed with the House Draft 1as well and with the effective date, January, and I think that we agreed upon.

Thank you. On behalf of the House, is myself, my co-Chair Poepoe with Member Muraoka, and for the old CD 1 of SB 2851, you're largely going to the House Draft 1 which is down to 41 decimal threshold for the demarcation of a deaf individual on their for the motor vehicle,

which authorizes owners to register vehicles owned by deaf individuals, so deafness designation appears. When law enforcement officer accesses the motor vehicle information with the CD 1 effective January 1, 2027.

Correct. Okay. Alright. With that said, Chair and Members, can we go ahead and take the vote on SB 2851, House Draft 2, and this is the recommendation of the House and the Senate is to pass with the amendments on the CD 1. You know, I'm going to assign my Chair.

I'm not on this.

Oh, you're not on this one. Yes. Okay. Okay.

Here we go. Okay. Thank you.

Okay. [Roll Call] Let me take a look. Please. [Roll Call] Good. Thank you.

Meassure is adopted. Thank you so much. K.

Thank you.

Okay. You got the time. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

This makes life easy. Thank you, guys. Okay. Can we proceed then, sir? And Members with regards to the third item on the hearing notice, and this is with regards to SB 3154, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2 relating to transportation of the environmental review.

For the Senate, the countries are myself, Senator Inouye's Chair co Chairs Gabbard and Rhoads and DeCoute as Member. And with regards to the transportation and environmental review, and this bill authorizes DOT to assume responsibilities under the National

Environmental Policy Act of 1969 for highway projects, as well as railroad public transportation or multi mobile modal projects within the state, allowing streamlined environmental reviews, provides a limited review of sovereign immunity to comply with the federal requirements.

And, with the, CD 1 that has been circulated, we go we have agreed upon, so far with the Senate version, which this bill covers a very, interesting and important measure on their environmental review

and that the bills were so perfect in its measure that only the date has been changed that it will take upon approval.

Thank you for working on this initiative.

Thank you, Senator.

The super sponsors under the National Fire Policy Act of 1969 for highway projects where a rural public transportation multimodal projects in the state, allowing to streamline environmental reviews and provides a limited waiver to power community to apply federal requirements.

I'll be in the house for this measure as myself, which are long history of fairness with MetroMoral. The CD1 else that we didn't agree upon is the SD2 of the current version of the bill with authorized as the current interpretation.

K. Thank you so much. Agree to then take a vote on this matter, Chair. Yes. Okay?

Thank you.

So the recognition of the conference Chairs is to pass with the CD1. [Roll Call] May I take a look at the House? [Roll Call]

Okay. Shall we proceed then with the last measure on the on this Friday, April 24, on the Senate bill? Bill. For this last Yes. Okay.

With regards to SB 3156 SD 1 House Draft 1, and this is relating to federal military installations for the Senate, Senator Inouye as Chair, co Chairs Rhoads, Kanuha and Rep. Senator Elefante as Member.

Thank you. For SB 3196 SD1 HD1, the Members that I have for this measure is myself as co Chair with co- Chairs Moriwaki, co-Chair Kitagawa which is a Member Muraoka. Senator, from my understanding, we don't have FIN released on this one yet.

Yes. And just to add to it, let me just read what this measure about as we continue discussions. And this authorizes DOT to enter into agreements with the United States Department of Defense for the provision of services at military at federal military installations under circumfantations of also

authorizes charging an administrative fee. Yes. And with regards to this measure, it needs certainly FIN and WAM's approval, and we're asking that this conference committee to reconvene at the pleasure of this measure, SB 8700 Draft 1, House Draft 1, SD 1, on Monday.

If it's agreeable, April 27 at 09:30am in the Conference Room, 329.

Yes. And the CD 1s have been proposed to Members and finance as well for us. So we hope that we may make purchase. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Members, the next mentioned before is HB1696 Commercial drivers license on behalf of myself, Walter Travis, and

Senator Greenwood.

Yes. Thank you. For the Senate Conferees on HB1696, myself, Senator Inouye as Chair, co-Chair, Rhoads, and Members of DeCorte.

Thank you, Senator. So the proposal that we'll be voting on is, RG, and this third version is SD1. Thank you for putting the other requirements in the future that's the state bill.

Largely, the HB 1696 CD1 has to close that we're voting on. We'll be lowering the age of major reports for being within the state from 19 to 18. Those requirements that person operates in categories we do most qualify and drive in the state.

There is first 21 from part of the street and property portion of the most checking over with serial transition program. Apprendership program is determined by Department of Labor and Industrial Relations.

Port structure on the job training program administered by the person's employers requires department transportation to manage school to lower the middle age for the commercial driver's license. And for this time, we have an effective date of July 1, 3000.

So the city wants circulated before both of us have agreement as such to inform the pool.

Yes. Okay. Thank you for working on this measure. Okay.

Alright.

Members, the Chair's recommendation is to adopt the CD1 amendments. [Roll Call]

[Roll Call] Thank you, Senator. We have a bill.

Thank you so much. Congratulations, please.

Thank you. Next one. Before assessing the HB 2021, HD 2 SD 2, I appreciate all chambers time and effort we've got to get, like, more rigorous important measure. During this two agendas. For HP 2021, I am on behalf of the health care of myself, co-Chair Tarnas, and Member Muraoka.

Okay. For the Senate on this measure, HB 2021, Senator Inouye, myself as chair, co chairs, Wakai, Rhoads.

Thank you, Senator. I appreciate all your folks' help on this measure, specifically in the Senate. If I can just share the CD one that we are adopting today, establishes a safe writing behavior to electrify both service operation and private collection and services and services.

Establish a saving and signage environment for electric bicycle service operation for one better electric bicycle. For appeals to use some motor drivers using bicycle name substitutes, motor scooter, motor driven cycle, and the CV one is effective upon approval.

Obviously, this see, while we're adopting this, that's how it's Draft 2 of HB 2021 with conforming amendments in just several chapters to make sure that the attorney generals can enforce these mechanisms. The CD 1 was quoted and agreed upon both chambers.

So at this time, Senator Inouye may time limit to the vote. So the Chair's recommendation is adopt HB 2021 HD 2 SC 2 CD 1 as proposed. [Roll Call]

Do I need to vote for the Senate? [Roll Call]

Thank you. We have a bill.

Thank you so much.

We're going to turn today. Senator Inouye is getting recognized.

Thank you.

We'll give it that. We're adjourned. Thank you.

Good afternoon. This is our Friday, 04/24/2026, 03:30PM conference committee in Capitol Room 224. The first measure is SB 888 Senate draft two, House draft two relating to consumer protection. On behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, Rhodes co Chair, Senator Awa, manager.

On behalf of the House we have myself as co Chair, Rep Tardis as a co Chair who is excused, and co Chair Pierick. I'm sorry, Pierick is a manager Member.

Okay. Thank you. I believe we have a a conference, Jeff, that we have sent over for your review. Can we reconvene on this on Monday, the 27th at 02:40PM in the afternoon.

Monday.

Monday. Okay.

02:40 in the afternoon PM here in Conference Room 224. Okay. Thank you.

April 27.

Yes. Okay. 224.

Sounds good. Okay.

Thank you. Next measure Oh, at the request of the Judiciary Chair, he asked if we could just roll this to the end of the four bill agendas.

2487.

Yeah. So if we just move on to, SB 2487 Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1 relating to the Public Utilities Commission on behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, Wakai, Inouye co Chairs, McKelvey, Awa, managers.

On behalf of the house myself as Chair, co Chairs, Matayoshi, Perruso, and manager Matsumoto. Okay. If we have agreement, but we're just waiting for a big round.

So we also received the PUC memo today that I'm, perusing and awaiting a response and clarification from the PUC Chair on because it's quite confusing. So, yeah, can we roll this to Monday?

Yes. 02:40 here in 224.

That's right. The 27th. Right. Thank you. And then can we move to the last measure?

SB 3001. SD 2 HD 3 relating to artificial intelligence. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Elefante, co Chair Rhoads excused, McKelvey excused, the law manager.

On behalf of myself, we have myself as co chair along with, reps Illegon and Tam as co Chairs who are excused. I'm sorry. Illegon and Tarnas as co chairs who are excused. Reps Tam and Gedeon as managers also excused.

Okay. Chair, thank you very much for your diligent work on this. You know, my hope is that this is the vehicle. It has the appropriate title because in addition to protection of minors, there are some broader provisions that we really wanna make sure are included for the overall

protection of the public and prevention of, things like suicidal ideation and self harm and danger to the public. So we've prepared a CD that, I'd like to present to you for your review.

Covers much of the substance that has been that has been weighed in the two measures on this subject matter as they've gone through the legislative session.

So if I might just briefly, the the, you know, the overall objectives is to make sure that there's a clear disclosure when an AI chatbot is being engaged by a consumer.

That there are protocols in place when the dialogue heads into territory that could stimulate violence and that there are notices that developer of the technology needs to engage in future restriction when it comes to minors.

Yeah. And I and I do appreciate thank you for the dialogue again on this bill. I appreciate the Senate's willingness to put in the, harm or imminent danger to others as well as I felt that was strongly needed in order to,

protect the public if these AI chat bots do get an indication that others are at harm or are at risk of harm from individuals engaging with it.

Yeah. Thank you. So can we reconvene on this measure on Monday, the twenty seventh at 2:40PM here in Conference Room 224?

Thank you very much. And so we'll move to the last measure on this agenda. SB 2,471 Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2 relating to the powers of artificial persons. On behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, Rhoads co Chair, Fukunaga, McKelvey exclude excused, and Senator Awa manager.

Yep. Sounds good.

On behalf of the house, we have myself and repress harness as co chair. Represseruso and Pierrick as managers.

Thank you for your work on this measure and the ongoing dialogue on on how hopefully we can come to an agreement on this bill that makes this really important piece of legislation happen.

With your indulgence, we are working on a conference draft that I would like to present to you as soon as it is ready. And can we reconvene on this on Monday, same time, April 27, 02:40PM, and Conference Room 224?

02:40PM, 224. Yeah. And then thank you for your patience in this too. I appreciate the dialogue with the Senate. I am talking with, legal scholars right now, about this bill.

There are some potential flaws that, I'm trying to vet out right now. What I don't want is for us to pass this bill and to put Hawaii in a worse position than it is it is already in.

And I'm also concerned that we're gonna get a bad federal ruling that's gonna make the Citizens United case pale in comparison to. So with that being said, I do appreciate the intent of this bill, and I'm supportive of the intent of it.

I wanna vet it out to make sure that we're not doing more harm than good.

Your concern is noted. Happy to keep talking.

Thank you for your turn.

Thank you.

Good afternoon. Welcome to this meeting of a conference committee. And we're in, State Capital Room 329, and it is a little after 03:15PM. We are convening on three measures. We'll start with House Bill 1643 relating to pharmacies, pharmacy audits.

On the House side, on behalf of the House, myself and Chair Marayoshi as co Chairs and Representative Keohokalole and Alcos as Managers. K.

On behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, co Chair, Senator Keohokapuole and Manager Fevella. And Manager Fevella is excused.

Chair McKelvey, I believe on this bill, we have a proposed conference draft on which we seem to have reached agreement. We have. So if I may, I'd like to summarize the fact that this is a measure that proposes a frame framework for pharmacy audits in Hawaii Has been agreed to as a reasonable step forward for pharmacists and pharmacies, and we're prepared to vote.

Yep. Sounds good. We appreciate you synthesizing the drafts.

K. So let's see. HB 1643.

Okay.

And let's see. On behalf of the House. [Roll Call] And may I take the vote for the Senate, please, sir? [Roll Call] We have a measure.

Thank you for your work on this. We appreciate Sorry

about that. That's not. Oh, right now. You're good.

You're good. It's a thin spot for us on this It's an interesting trend developing. No. No. This one we we were grieving on.

We just gotta take a look. There? Do you need a pen? Just a minute. She should make for consistency.

Awesome. So we're all up now. She's so

muted. Alright. Let's see.

Okay. Here you go, sir.

Okay. Okay.

Okay.

EMS. Okay. Voting. Next bill up is House Bill 2314 relating to emergency medical systems of care. And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Grandinetti as co Chairs, Representative Keohokapu-Lee Loy, and Alcos as Managers.

I have the Senate myself as Chair, co Chair Senator Chang and Manager Fevella. Fevella excuse

Okay. Senator, we've exchanged CDs. I think we've reached agreement on a proposed CD. And if I could summarize, this is a administrative proposal to update our emergency medical system laws, which are in some cases several decades old. And this measure reflects the modern rules of today's emergency personnel as well as services.

Correct.

So with that, we are prepared to vote. Four I'm sorry. 22. 24. 24. 04. Eventually. [Roll Call]

And may I take the vote for the Senate, please? [Roll Call]

So I believe we have another bill. Another bill. Perfect.

And we if you want, we can just roll into the into the Senate bill. Okay. We can just go out and start off with the people to make the same agenda. The next one is relating to ambulances. 2934 Senate Bill 2934 Senate draft one, house draft one.

This is a DOH emergency medical services for an advanced life support ambulance for Central Maui with an appropriation. On behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, co Chair, Senator Hashimoto, Manager Fevella, Hashimoto. Fevella is Excuse.

Thank you. And on this measure, on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Keohokapu-Lee Loy as co Chairs and Representative Alcos as manager.

Hey. Thank you very much. We appreciate the House working with us on this. There are some fiscal issues we're working on with department of health. We like to clear up and some also language issues.

So with your kind indulgence, could we roll this to next week? Certainly.

We have suggested a time of next week, Tuesday Okay. 10:15AM in Room 016.

Sounds great.

If I may, for the record, I noticed we just received a memo from the Department of Health suggesting an amount of 1,250,000.

We think that amount might change. We've received information from them to perhaps a narrower figure. So that's why we wanted well, let's we can basically show you what we got, make sure we're all in the same.

Okay. Hence, the purpose of the purpose.

Okay. We don't wanna preclude any opportunities in the future, which is why it's important.

Thank you. So we've announced the time to reconvene and I believe we are done.

Hey. Calling to order this joint conference committee between the House Labor Committee and the Senate Labor and Technology Committee. It is Friday, 04/24/2026, 08:45AM. We're in Conference Room 16. First, we have HB 159 HD2 SD1 relating to workers' compensation.

For the House, we have myself, Rep Matayoshi, Rep Lee as co Chairs, Rep Garcia as manager.

Thank you. On behalf of the Senate is myself, Elefante as Chair, co Chairs Keohokapu-Lee Loy, Rhoads, and Kanuha, and Member Lamosao.

We're currently working on a CD for this bill. So if you could just please hold on, we'll send that over to you as soon as possible.

Okay. Do you wanna roll this over?

Yes. Let's roll this over to Monday, 9am, and Conference Room 16.

Monday, April 27.

Yes. Yep.

That works for us. Thank you. 9AM. Yep.

Yes. Alright. Moving on to HB 1514 HD2 SD1 relating to workers' compensation. For the House, we have myself, Rep. Matayoshi as co Chairs, Rep. Lee and Reyes Oda as managers.

Hey. On behalf of the Senate is myself, Elefante as Chair, co Chairs Keohokalole, and Moriwaki.

Alright. So I believe we have an agreement with this as well as a CD.

Yes. We are in receipt of your proposed CD one. It looks good on our end.

Fantastic. So I will be taking the votes. Just a short summary on this measure. This clarifies the process for selecting a certified provider for vocational rehab services, requiring certified, providers to automatically approve vocational rehab services for an injured employee. If those services will likely be required for suitable gainful employment and the initial evaluation report finds the injured employee feasible to participate.

Requires providers to file an employee vocational rehab plan no later than one hundred and twenty days after submitting an initial evaluation report unless extended by the director of labor and industrial relations clarifies the process for an employer to object to vocational rehab plan. Alright. Taking the vote for the house on HB 1514 HD2 SD1. Recommendation of the house is to pass with amendments. For the House, I vote Aye.

[Roll Call] May I take the vote for the Senate? Please. Thank you. [Roll Call] Thank you. We have a bill.

We have a bill. Thank you. I know the Representative from Kanye next to you is very happy about that one.

It's just a very strong introduction for this bill. K. Thank you. We can move on to HB 1515 relating to workers' compensation. For the House, we have myself, Rep Matayoshi, Rep Lee as co Chairs, Rep Kapela and Garcia as Managers.

On behalf of the Senate is myself, Elefante as Chair, co-Chair Kanuha, and Member Lamsao.

I believe for this one, we're just waiting for a FINWAM release. Is that correct?

Yes. That is correct.

And you're in receipt of the CD?

Yes. Okay.

Fantastic. We'll just be rolling this over to Monday, 9AM, Room 16. That's April 27.

Yep. That works for us. Great. Thank you.

Moving on to HB 2335 relating to workers' workforce development. For the House, we have myself and Rep Lee as co-Chairs, Rep Reyes Oda as Manager.

On behalf of the Senate is myself as Chair, co-Chairs, McKelvey and Moriwaki.

For this, we're still working on a CD, and we'll send that to you as soon as we're, able.

Okay. Sounds good. You wanna roll this over?

Yes. April 27, 9AM, Conference Room 16.

That works for us. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

Thanks. Yep. See you.

Moving on to HB 2468 HD1 SD2 relating to internship programs. For the House, we have myself, Rep Lee as co-hairs, Reyes Oda as Manager.

On behalf of the Senate is myself, Elefante as Chair, co-Chairs, Moriwaki, and Lamosao.

Alright. For this one as well, we'll be rolling can we roll over to April 27, 9AM, Conference Room 16? We're working on a CD.

Yep. That works for us. Thank you.

Thank you. Moving on to SB2567 relating to petitions to temporarily restrain and enjoin harassment of an employee. From the House, we have myself, Rep Tarnas or Rep. Lee as co-Chairs, and Gedeon as a Manager.

On behalf of the Senate is myself as Chair, co-Chairs Rhoads and Kanuha, and Member Fevella.

I'm sorry. This is a Senate bill, but Yeah.

Oh, thank you. Thank you, Well, we're good on that. I believe for this one, we have shared with you our proposed conference draft. Are you in receipt of that?

Yes. We are in receipt.

Okay. And I believe we also sent a memo for WAM and FIN release. We haven't heard back. So Can we roll this over to Monday, 04/27/2026 at 9AM in Conference Room 16?

Yes. That'd be great. K. Thank you.

Okay, and our next bill is Senate Bill 3,096, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1. This is relating to the employees' retirement systems, employer contributions for normal costs, and accrued liability. On behalf of the Senate is myself, Senator Elefante as Chair, co-Chair Senator Richards, and Member Fevella.

For the House, we have myself and Rep Lee as co-Chairs, Reyes Odaas Manager.

K. For this one, we did provide you with a proposed CD1. Are you in receipt of that?

Yes. I believe we are.

And then we also sent a memo for a WAM and FIN release. We have not heard back. So can we also roll this over to Monday, 04/27/2026 at 9AM in Conference Room 16?

Yes. That sounds good. K.

Thank you. Then for our last item on this agenda, we have Senate Bill 3097, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1. This is relating to the exemption from civil service of executive personnel of the employee's retirement system. On behalf of the Senate is myself, Elefante, as Chair, co- Chair Richards, and Member Fevella.

For the House, we have myself and Rep. Lee as co-Chairs, Reyes Oda as Manager.

K. On this one, would you like me to read the description? I know that's.

Oh, yeah. That'd be great.

Okay. So for the description of this, this allows the board of trustees of the employee's retirement system through its executive director to appoint specified executive personnel positions of the employee's retirement system and exempts these positions from the state's civil service requirements. We provided you with a proposed CD1. Are you in receipt of that?

Yes. We are. K.

And just so that we have the correct proposed CD1, it's the footer that's 2026-2364, Senate Bill 3097, CD1, SMA. K. And then we did send the memo to WAM and FIN. Do we have WAM release? We do have WAM release on our end.

Yes. We have FIN release on our end.

And I believe we have Quorum on our end, so I think we can take a vote.

Yes.

Okay Members, we are voting on Senate Bill 3097, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1. Recommendation from the House and Senate Managers is to pass a proposed the CD for the Senate. [Roll Call]

May I take the vote for the House? Please. [Roll Call]

We have a bill. Thank you. Alright. Thank you.

Alright. With that, this hearing is adjourned.

Thank you.

Alright. I'm calling to order this joint, conference committee. It is Friday, 04/24/2026, 9AM. Conference Room 16. First, we have HB2271 HD2 SD1 making emergency appropriations for public employment cost items.

For the House, we have myself, Rep Lee as co-Chairs, Reyes Oda as Manager.

Thank you. On behalf of the Senate is myself, Elefante as Chair, co-Chair Kanuha, and Member Ihara.

For this, we're just gonna, I believe, be rolling it over to April 27, 9AM, Room 16. Just waiting on. Yep. Same here.

That works for us. Great. Thank you.

Next, we have HB 22728, making emergency appropriations for public employment cost items. For the House, we have myself, Rep Lee as co-Chairs, Reyes Oda as Manager.

And on behalf of the Senate, myself, Elefante as Chair, co-Chair, Kanuha, and Member Ihara.

For this, we're just waiting on. So can we roll this over to April 27, 9AM, Room 16?

Yep. April at 9AM here, and 16works. Great. Cute.

Next, we have HB2273 H D1SD1, making emergency appropriations for public employment cost items. For the House, we have myself and Rep. Lee as co-Chairs, Reyes Oda as Manager.

On behalf of the Senate, myself, Elefante as Chair, co-Chair Kanuha, and Member Ihara.

K. For this bill, based off of BNF by recommendations, we're going to be deferring this measure. Is that alright with you? Yep. We concur.

Great. So we are deferring this measure. Next, we have The last one.

No. Go ahead. All good. Last one is Senate Bill 99. This is relating to government.

On behalf of the Senate, myself, Elefante as Chair co-Chairs, Moriwaki and Lamosao.

For the House, we have myself and Rep. Lee as co-Chairs, Reyes Oda as Manager.

For this one, we sent over a proposed CD1. I don't know if you had an opportunity to take a look at it. K.

We yes. We did. And we sent it over a memo to FIN for.

K. And we've also sent a memo over to Ways and Means, so we have not heard back. So would we also roll this over to Monday, April 27 at 9AM in Conference Room 16? That works for us.

K. K.

This hearing is adjourned. Thank you.

Welcome to the House and Senate Conference Committee meeting. Today is Friday, 04/24/2026, 09:15AM, Conference Room 16. At the top of the agenda, we have HB 2137 relating to AI. And at this time, Chair, we're still working on the proposal.

Wanna introduce since we're opening up your Members and our Members. Thank you.

Yep. Today, our Members is myself as co-Chair, Matayoshi and Tarnas, Member Lee, Tam, and Gedeon.

K. On behalf of the Senate, Senator Elefante as Chair, co-Chairs Keohokalole, Rhoads, and Member Lamosao.

Chair, we're still working on proposed CD1. And is it okay if we roll this over to Monday, April 27, 09:30am at Conference Room 16?

Yep. That works for us.

Perfect. Alright. This meeting is now adjourned.

Welcome to the conference committee meeting. It's Friday. April 24 is 2PM agenda. It's just after two. Here we are in Conference Room 325 for the purpose of considering two measures. Thank you very much. The senators for being here.

You're all very busy. Appreciate you being here so we can act on these measures. Let's go ahead and get started. First one, House Bill 1682 House Draft 1 Senate Draft 2, relating to the Disclosure of Intimate Images.

On behalf of the House, we have myself as chair, Representative Poepoe, Representative Ratcliffe, and Representative Shimizu as members.

Thank you, chair. On behalf of the Senate, Elefante as chair, Rhoads and Lamosao are co-chairs.

Thank you. We have circulated a proposed CD1. I'm hoping that you were able to take a look at it.

Yes. We have received a proposed CD1 and it looks good on our end for us.

Great. If with your concurrence, I'd like to move forward and take a vote on this.

Yes.

Okay. Great. This, measure establishes Civil Remedies for the Unauthorized Disclosure of Intimate Images. That's the description. I'll go ahead and take the vote up for the house first.

Chair votes aye. Representative Poepoe is Excused. Well, she might show up. So, I'll take Representative Ratcliffe?

Aye.

Representative Shimizu?

Aye.

And Representative Poepoe is excused. May I take the vote for the Senate?

Please.

Chair Elefante?

Aye.

Co-chair Rhoads?

Aye.

Co-chair Lamosao?

Aye.

We have a bill. Thank you.

Thank you for your work on that chair.

Absolutely. And thanks to vice speaker for her able assistance.

This is your bill.

Thank you.

Yes. Our next one is our last bill on the agenda is SB 2135 Senate draft two House draft one. This is relating to privacy. We sent all first up on behalf of the Senate is myself, Elefante, as chair, and co chair Rhoads and member Lamosao.

I'm I need to get somebody else here. On behalf of the House, it's myself as chair, representative Belatti, Poepoe, and Shimizu as managers.

So for I know you I know you're working on getting members.

Yes. But you go ahead and make sure

We sent over a proposed CD1 draft. I'm not sure if you had time to review it.

I have, and I'm, I support the the proposed city one. Thank you for your hard work on that.

Thank you. And just so that you know and the public, there were some concerns that were raised by the attorney general, and those concerns were addressed and the proposed city one language,

And we did confirm that by reviewing the attorney general's input and the proposed draft and that was consistent, so I think it's all good. Okay?

Yeah. Let's let's go ahead and recess for a moment till I get one more member here. Recess. Reconvening the conference committee meeting.

That's good. So you wanna recess?

Again, it's still Friday, April 24th. We're now at 02:10. We're on the 2PM agenda, Conference Room 325, and we're considering Senate bill and turn it over to Chair Elefante.

Yes. Thank you. As we should be just described before we went into recess. You did. We reviewed the compulsory one. We're good, and I think we're ready to take a vote. We don't need WAM refutab;e. So that's for the future.

That that's good with me. And if I'll, briefly Yep. Read the, description, this, establishes the offense of nonconsensual disclosure of an intimate image.

The recommendation is to pass AACD 1. For the Senate, Chair Elefante, I vote aye.

Okay. With that, we'll proceed for the vote.

Yes, please.

Member Lamosao?

Co chair Rhoads?

Aye.

May I take the vote for the house?

Aye.

Yes, please. Okay.

Aye.

Okay. Chair Tarnas?