Hearings

Conference Committee

May 1, 2026
  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Hey. Good morning, everybody. We are reconvening our conference committee meeting today. It's Friday, May 1. It is 9AM.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    We're in Conference Room 229 at the state capital. First up, we have HB 2592 relating to money chaos for stewardship authority. On the house side see, I remember this one. You have myself, Garrett, and Tarnas, Kusch as co chairs, and Marikawa, and Shimizu as managers.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you to the Senate myself with co chairs Kim, Rhodes, and Inouye.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay, so I believe we have an agreement on this, and we have money approval. Right, money?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    I need a

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Question.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    We have a proviso, just to make sure. Yes. Release provided that the rule shall be sent by 12/31/2029 on page eight, line 10.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. Yeah. So that's basically the SD two version.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    There were so many.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes. With I think Okay. Okay. So the proposed basically, the proposed draft three. No.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Mark. Mark. Yeah.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Take a recess? Yeah.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    You know what? Recess.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Oh, never mind. We're back in on our 9AM agenda. So we're, reconvening on HB 2592 relating to Mauna Kea. So we do have an agreement. We're gonna go with the with the with the CD one.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    What we're adding is we're adding a new section three to amend the HRS one seventy one dash three to clarify that MKSOA has management authority over the Mauna Kea lands and clarifying that any lease lease extensions during the transition period are not subject to approval of DLNR or or LUC, and conforming dates to reflect the new transfer date of December 12/01/2029, and technical non tech and tech amendments for consistent consistency and style and making an effective date upon approval.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    And provided and now also another provided that rule shall be sent by 12/31/2029 as on page eight line 10. Right? According to the amendment.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yes. Yes.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Are we okay with that?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yes. We're apparently waiting for one person to walk in momentarily.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. Can we vote on? Move on. Move on? We need them to vote.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Oh, okay. Can we Okay. Move on.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    So We'll come back to it as soon as

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    As soon as they walk in? Sure. So, next up, SB 2401. Oh, that's yours.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Go ahead. Yeah. It's me, Senator Moriwaki, and Senator Lanza.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. On the house side, we have myself, Marikawa as co chairs, and Shimizu as manager.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks. We have draft from earlier. Don't have FinWAM on this one yet.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. Us too. So we have

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    1135 here in is it this room?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Here in, Conference Room 229.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. Stop. Send it down.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    3253, linked to conservation is up next. It's me, Gabbard, Richards for the Senate.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    On the outside, we have myself, Roland, Marikawa, and.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks. We have agreement on this one. Do you have a FIN release?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    No, we don't.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Move this to 11:35 here in this room.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes. And

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    229.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And SB 2001 relating to Banyan Drive Community Development District. It's me, Inouye, and Kanuha.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yeah. On the House side, we have me, Sue Lee Loy, and Kusch as and she needs her as coaches.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    We do 11:35 for this one as well?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    You're in 229?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And the last one's yours.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    So next up is our last bill is HB306 relating to state water code and penalties on the house side. Do you have myself, harness, Terry Powell?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And for this. And for the Senate, me, Rhodes and Hashimoto.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    So can we move this to and we have 35 to this room. Yes. Today, do we have do we have the members to vote? So going back to. Yes.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    HB2592. May I take a vote? Please. Okay. So for the house, we have myself.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    I vote aye. Garrett is not here. Hannes? Aye. Krish?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Aye. Rory Cowell? Aye. She needs it. Aye.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Great. May I take the vote for the Senate? Yes. Senator Lee. Aye.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Kim is excused. Rhodes. Aye.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Inouye. Aye. Thank you. We have a bill. Thank you,

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And with that, we are adjourned on our 9AM agenda. Good.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Good morning. We're convening the conference committee on our 10:30AM agenda here in State Capitol Conference Room 229 on SB 3007 relating to culture and arts for the Senate and myself, Senator Inouye, and Senator Lamassao.

  • Jeanné Kapela

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have, myself and representative Hartzfeld as co chairs, representative Alcos as manager. Thank you.

  • Jeanné Kapela

    Legislator

    And we also have released from Ben.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    I believe in this one, we have released on our side.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Great. Can I take the vote? For the our recommendation is to pass SB 3073007 with a conference draft.

  • Rachele Lamosao

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    I'll vote aye. Co-chair Inouye?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And Senator Lamosao?

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Chair Kapela?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Co-chair Hartsfield?

  • Jeanné Kapela

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Jeanné Kapela

    Legislator

    Yes, please, Senator.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    May I take the vote for the House?

  • David Alcos

    Legislator

    Congratulations.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And Representative Alcos.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    W. R. Okay. Thank you.

  • Daisy Hartsfield

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Recommendation adopted.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Congratulations. Yay. Hoping a lot.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Thank you. Hey.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Welcome, everyone, to reconvene for the House and Senate Conference Committee meeting. Today is Friday, 05/01/2026. The time is 11:04. We are at Conference Room 229 and conferencing on HB 2474 relating to international relations. On behalf of the House, myself as Chair, Hussey as co Chair, Members Tam and Gideon.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks for the Senate, myself, Senators DeCoite and Kanuha.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Chair we do have an agreed CD1. We also have FIN and WAM releases, and we just need quorum. Would it be okay if we roll over to 11:40 today at room Oh. Oh. Let's not roll over yet.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Just disregard the rollover. Alright. Oh thanks. Could I get the vote? While they're looking at that, I just want to share with everybody that this bill authorizes the state to enter into non binding international, cooperative agreements with national governments, national, ministries, departments or agencies, provincial or regional governments or international intergovernmental bodies relevant, relevant to the interests of the state or international partner.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    The amendments will expand the definition of sister state or province partnerships to include a partnership between the state and perfecture or foreign nation. It also requires the Hawaii Sister State and International Partnerships Commission to evaluate how a sister state or province partnership or international cooperative agreement will enhance certain key state initiatives. And the act is going to be effective 07/01/2026. Chair, if you're okay, are you ready to take a vote?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    On the House side for HB 2474, myself as Chair votes aye. Co Chair Hussey? Aye.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Member Tam is excused. Member Gideon is excused. And on the Senate, is it okay if I take the vote?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Chair Lee. Aye. Co Chair Decoite. Aye. And Co Chair Kanuha. Aye. Chair got itself a bill.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Can

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Can we take quick quick recess?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    I'm gonna come back to the conference committee. Realize the technical error. We're gonna push this to 11:40 in Room 411 so we can make sure this is done right.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay now we're adjourned.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    We're convening the 11:05am conference here in Room 229, the state capitol on SB 2599 relating to development. Chairs having conferred, we're gonna roll this over to the end of our 11:35AM agenda. What room is that in? In Room 229. 11:35AM and 02:29.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    11:35AM agenda on a number of bills. We're gonna take a couple out of order here beginning with Senate bill 2001 relating to the Banyan Drive Community Development District. And for the Senate, it's me, Senators Inouye and Penua.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. On the House side, you have myself, Keohokapu Lee Loy and Kusch as Shimizu.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks. I believe we have release on this measure.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes. We have finance release. Alright. And we have quorum.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    We also have quorum. Alright. Oh, yeah. And let's note that, within the measure we have $2,375,000 in A funds and $250,000 in B funds.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. And we are basically taking the the, ACDA's version and we're adding a linear descendant that is but they're not on the main board. Correct?

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    It's a community board.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes. Yes. And the the date will be upon approval? Okay. Okay.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Alright. Just just to confirm that when we speak about the main board is that the HCTA in its entirety as its own authority and the community for Banyan Drive is just one sector of the many other community development plans. Okay. Yes. Thank you.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Thank you. Sorry. The effective date is 07/01/2026.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Thank you. Okay.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    And you mentioned the number the positions ended. Good. Yep. You're all set.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Voting on SB 2001. Recommendation is to pass with a conference draft. I'll vote aye. Chair Inouye?

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Aye. Thank you.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Senator Kanuha? Aye. And take a vote for the House.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes, please. Chair Hashem. Aye. Co chair Keohokapu Lee Loy. Aye. Representative Kusch. Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And representative Shimizu. Aye. Alright, recommendation adopted.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay, can we move on to HB306? Yes. Okay, so on the House side, this is relating to state water code penalties. On the house side you have myself, Representative Tarnas, and Morikawa are present, and representative Shimizu is present also.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. For the Senate, myself, senators Rhodes, and Hashimoto. Oh, there's

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. So, we have money released on this. There is no funding for this. However, we The conference draft is essentially the SD one version, but we're taking out the the penalties will be $5,000 for the first fine and then $15,000 for the second fine. And we're adding language in there If take your time, there's the way we're actually. Oh, we are?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay. Keep breathing. Okay. Okay.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Where did my. Oh, Gary's video.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. And now I gotta stop.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    And then we have stream. For people that violate the stream, not fines. Okay. We have language regarding streams and if they violate the code. Right?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    And they don't maintain. And that you're also not, I gotta read this one. Wasn't yeah. It shall be a violation to fail to maintain natural stream, and there's another one I need to read.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Just give me a minute here. That they are not allowed to take Waterways. Waterways. Yes. Unless we have House and Senate approval.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Those are the major changes for the city.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Sounds good.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Good. May I take the votes? We're effective date 07/01/2026. So, may I take the vote? Yes.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    So, on the house side you have myself, both aye. Representative Tarnas? Aye. Morikawa. Aye. Shimizu. Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    May I take the vote for the Senate? Yes. Senator Lee. Aye. Rhoad. Aye. Hashimoto. Aye. Okay. Thank you.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    We have a bill.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Oh, here's the.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Moving on to SB 2401 relating to regional shoreline mitigation districts for the Senate. It's myself, senators Moriwaki and Lomasao. Hold on.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Two zero 2401? Yeah. Okay. On the House side, we have myself, Morikawa, and Cochair Shimizu.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks. I think we have agreement on a framework for this one, but we need can we roll this to 12:45?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Is 12:45 okay? Does that work? Hold on. Okay. 12:45 is okay.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    12:45 here in Conference Room? Yeah. Conference Room 229.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Today.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And then lastly on the agenda SB 3253 relating to conservation. It's myself, senators Gabbard, and Richards.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. On the house side, you have myself, Loewen, Morikawa, and Kouchi Shimizu.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks. I think we have WAM release on our side.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    We have no finance release on our side.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Can we roll this one to, also to 12:45 here in Conference Room 229?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you very much. Is that everything? I think is I'm missing anything? Oh, wait.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    We have the Stadium 1.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Oh, yeah. We're in the session. Okay. Second agenda.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Second agenda moving into our 11:35, reconvene on SB 2599 relating to development. It's myself, senators DeCoite, and Hashimoto.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    On the House side, you have myself, Evelyn, Todd, and she needs it, which maybe,l She's Yeah. Todd's not here. So our finance release finance person is not here. We have we have, finance release on this.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    We I believe there was a technical Oh, okay.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Technical error on lease language that is being worked out right now. Okay. Can we roll this also to 12:45 here in this room? Yes. In 229?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. Good.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. And then that is it, right? Yep. Okay. So we're done with the 11:35 agendas.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Convening the Conference Committee on SB 2999 relating to a Clean Fuel Standard. It's myself and the new house of the law.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, myself, Co-chairs; Kila and Perruso, members; Quinlan and Matsumoto.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks. Can we roll this to 12:40 here in Conference Room 229?

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Alright. We're convening the, conference committee on SB 2999 relating to a clean fuel standard. It's It's myself, Senator Kanuha, and Fevella.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, myself, Co-Chairs, Kila, and Caruso, Members Quinlan and Matsumoto.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. We have release on our side.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    And we have release on our side. Okay. To our Chair.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    And this bill directs DOT to make rules to establish a clean fuel standard. The amendments were just to add some clarifying language about the cost control mechanism and some additional reporting requirements, I believe, and affecting the date. So yeah.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And adding in EV stuff.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    Clarifying language around the credits for EV charging station owners.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Voting on SB 2999. Recommendation is passed with a CD. I'll vote aye. Co Chair Kanuha? Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And Senator Fevella excused.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Can I take the vote for the House?

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Chair Lowen. Aye. Co Chair Kila, excused. Co Chair Peruso. Aye. Representative Quinlan. Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And representative Matsumoto, excused. Okay. Thank you. Recommendation adopted. Okay.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And then Mark, you wanna open the line?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yep. I tried to check-in I went by LAN, but I tried to check-in too.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    Sorry. Sorry.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. We're on our 2999 agenda, we're adjourned.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    I will convene the conference committee on SB 2599, relating to Development for the Senate myself, Senators DeCoite and Hashimoto.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    On the House side, we have myself.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Can you come to 0229?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Representative Evslin, and Todd present, and Shimizu is present.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks. I believe we have an agreed draft and release on our side.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes. That's correct. We basically took the HD 3 version, added 4,900,000, 49,500,000, and added a clean date. What is this on?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    On a please no.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    July 1. Effective date of 07/01/2026, and we added in the 99-year lease provision.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Sounds good. Okay.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Good. So, shall we take, shall we take the vote?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Voting on SB 2599, recommendation to pass with a conference draft. I'll vote aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Co-chair or DeCoite is excused. Senator Hashimoto?

  • Troy Hashimoto

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    May I take a vote for the house?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Please do.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Chair Hashem?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Representative Evslin?

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And Representative Todd?

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Recommendation. Oh, and I'm sorry, Representative Shimizu. My apologies.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    No worries. Okay. Recommendation adopted. Can we move to SB 3253? Yes.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Just in time.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Oh, I'm sorry, we're gonna gavel out on that.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    No, It's all on the same agenda. No.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    No. Stadium 1 was different. So we'll dabble out stadium. Convening the conference committee on SB 3253, Blaine's Conservation. It's myself, Gabbard, and Richards.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. On the House side, you have myself is present, Marikawa is present, and Shizu is present. No one is not here. So we have Chrome.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. I believe we have release on our side.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yep. No. We have release on our side.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. Thank you.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Sorry. Go ahead.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    It's a pleasure to establish it.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    No. Go ahead.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    I would say it recognizes a nonprofit organization to assist the state with conservation sanctuaries.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. Good. And we're just adding an effective date, 07/01/2026.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Great.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Oh, sorry. Yeah. On the Senate based language. That's right. Yeah.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Voting on SB 3253. Recommendations to pass with a conference draft. I'll vote aye. Co Chair Gabbard? Aye. And Senator Richards? Aye.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    I take a vote for the house?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yes, please. Chair Hashem? Aye. Co chair Loewen? Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Co chair Morikawa.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    And representative Shimizu. Sorry, Chair Lowen. Okay. All right. Recommendation adopted.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. So is that is that the last.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Twenty four zero one.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Oh, I'm sorry, 2401. Okay. Let's move to 2401, relating to Regional Shoreline Mitigation Districts. Myself, Senator Moriwaki, and Lamosao.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Okay. On the house side, you have myself present, Morikawa present, and Co-chair Shimizu present. So, we have quorum and we can vote.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yes. I believe we're reading or confirming.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    We have finance clearance. Of course-

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    We need to get we're working on WAM clearance right now.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. So we-

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    I'll touch it in a second.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Unless we have it.

  • Rachele Lamosao

    Legislator

    Alright. Should I call Sherry?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Shall we recess?

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Sure. Let's take a recess.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    We're reconvening the committee on SB 2401. We'd like to roll this to 5pm in Room 016. With that, we're adjourned.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    I'm calling to order this Joint Conference Committee Meeting. It is Friday, 05/01/2026, 08:45 am. We're in Conference Room 16. First, I'd like to say Happy May Day, Lady, Laulau day, and the last day of conference.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    And happy aloha Friday.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yes. And Friday. Alright. First on our agenda, we have HB 1656 HD1 SD1, relating to Indebtedness to the State. For the house, we have myself, Rep. Lee as co-chairs, Rep. Garcia as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as chair, co-chair Kim, and member Ihara.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yeah. So for this, we're still just waiting on release. Yeah?

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yes. We do have an agreement on the proposed CD1, so we're just also waiting on WAM release on our end.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. We'll be rolling this over to today, 12PM. Same Conference Room 16.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yes. May 1, 12PM here. Conference Room 16. That works for us.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. Moving on to HB 1658 HD1 SD1, relating to Collective Bargaining. For the house, we have myself, Rep. Lee as co-chairs, Rep. Reyes Oda manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as chair, co chair Kim, and member Lamosao.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. So for this one, we do have an agreement on the CD.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    And we have FIN and WAM release, Isu?

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    We don't have release on our end.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    For WAM that's my under that's my understanding.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    So we could just roll this over to 12PM, Room 16th, same day today, May 1st.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. That works for us.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Moving on to HB 1661, relating to Cafeteria Plans. For the house, we have myself, Rep Lee as Co-chairs, Rep. Kapela and Reyes Oda as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as chair, Co-chair Kim, member for Fevella.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    For this, I believe we do have an agreement on the CD. Yeah. We do have FIN release DI1.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    I our WAM designee is not here, and I don't believe we have any WAM release.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Let's roll this over to today, May 1 at 12PM, Conference Room 16.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. That works for us.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Great.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Next, we have HB 1663 relating to Reimbursement of Public Employers and Employees. For the house, we have myself and Rep. Lee as co-chairs, Rep. Kapela and Reyes Oda as managers.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, it is myself as chair, Co-chair; McKelvey and Kim and, member Lamosao.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    For this one, I believe we have agreement on a CD. However, we are waiting. FIN release on our end?

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yes. That's correct. We don't have WAM release on our end.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Let's roll this over to today, 12PM, Room 16.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. That works for us. Great.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Finally, let's have HB1664, relating to Hawaii Employer Union Health Benefits Trust Fund. For the house, we have myself, Rep. Lee as Co-chairs, Rep. Kapela and Reyes Oda as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yeah. On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as chair, Co-chairs; Rhoads and Kim, member Ihara.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. I believe we do have agreement on the CD. However, we are waiting FIN and WAM to release.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yes. That's correct.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Great. Let's roll this over to today, 12PM, Room 16.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. That works.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no further business on this agenda, this hearing is adjourned.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Good morning, everyone. I am reconvening this Joint Conference Committee Meeting.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    It is Friday, 05/01/2026, 9am. We're in Conference Room 16. Oh, it's Conference Room 16. Okay. I'll see.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Nope. Okay. We'll take the things a little bit out of agenda order of the agenda today. So we'll be starting off with HB 2335. Is that okay okay with you, sir?

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    We have no objections to you taking it out of order.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. First, HB 2335 relating to Workforce Development. For the house. We have myself, Lee as Co-chairs, or Reyes Oda as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as chair, Co-chairs McKelvey and Moriwaki.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. For this, I think we're still working on it. So let's roll this over to today, 12PM, Room 16. Is that okay?

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yeah. That works. And then, chair, would you wanna go back to the top of the agenda?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yes. Let's.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Or wherever you wanna start.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yeah. If we could go back to HB 2271. Okay. This is making emergency appropriations for public employment cost items for the house. We have myself, Ripley as co chairs, Reyes Oda as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, Kanuha as co chair, member Ihara.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. So for this bill, we do have an agreement on the CD, and we do have FINRA lease.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yes. And we do have an agreement on the proposed CD. Just you wanna read which Oh, wait. Quarter?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yes. 2026-3438 HB2271 CD1.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. HMSO propose Yes. One. Yes. Okay.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    And I'll be reading the description of the bill if that's okay.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yeah. Let me check if we have WAM release. Do we have WAM release? Yep. Okay.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    We are good.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. So, HB 2271, this makes emergency appropriations for the members of bargaining units one and ten and their excluded counterparts to resolve issues related to temporary hazard pay for fiscal years 2526. For salary and fringe, this includes $95,775,309 for fiscal year '26. This is effective upon approval.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. For the house, I'll be taking the vote now. Yes.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    And thank you for your work on this, Chair.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Oh, thank you. Okay. So I vote aye. Rep. Aye.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Rep. Aye. May I take the vote for Senate? Please. Chair O'Fante? Aye. Senator Khalilha? Aye. Senator Yahara? Excused.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Congratulations. We have a bill. Aye.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    And after you're done with that, did you wanna go to 2272? Yes. Just have to initial.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. Moving on to HB 2272, making emergency appropriations for public employment plus items for the House. We have myself, Rep Lee as co chairs, Reyes Oda's manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, co chair Kanuha, and member Ihara.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. I believe we do have agreement on this CD. And to just read the footer, it is 2026-3425 HB 2272 CD1 HMSO proposed.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Say the last part? Oh, hang on here.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    2026-3425 HB 2272 CD1. Yep. Okay. And we do have fin release on our end.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Do we have ways and means release? Yep.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. We do. Okay. Great. I'll just briefly read the description of the bill.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    HB 2272, this makes emergency appropriation for members of bargaining unit eleven and their excluded counterparts, including the cost of salary adjustments negotiated between the state and the bargaining unit representative for fiscal years biennium '25 to '27. For salaries and fringe, this includes $1,142,586 for fiscal year's 26, $2,000,416 and 29 doll sorry. 2,000,416 and $29 for fiscal year's '27. For ETF amounts, it includes $231,046 for fiscal years '26 and $455,925 for fiscal years '27. This is effective upon approval.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yep. Okay. Great. I'll be taking the vote for the house. Myself, I vote aye.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Rep Lee? Aye. Rep. Aye. May I take the vote for Senate?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Please. Joe Elefante? Aye.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Senator Ihara? Excuse. Congratulations. We have a bill. So

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Got some house bills out.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yeah. Thank you. Okay. We will be moving on to HB 2468 relating to internship programs. For my for the House, we have myself, Rep Lee as co chairs, Ripley as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair. Co Chairs, Moriwaki and Lamosao.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    And for this, I believe we're working on a new CD. So

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yes. That's correct.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Let's roll this over to today, 12PM, Room 16. Yep. Thank you. Next, we have oh, sorry. This is Senate bill.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. We'll go to Senate Bill 2567, Senate Draft two, House draft two, relating to petitions to temporarily restrain and enjoin harassment of an employee. On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, co chairs Kanuha and Rhodes, and member Favella.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    For the House, we have myself, Rep Tarnas, or I believe as co chairs, Rep Gideon as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. For this one, we do have an agreement on the CD. We're just waiting for WAM and FIN release. Yes. That's correct.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. So why don't we also roll this over to later today, May 1 at twelve noon here in Conference Room 16? Great.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yep. And I guess we are yeah. I guess we just have to

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Do you wanna go we didn't cover one bill at the top of the agenda. I don't know if you wanna take that up or not.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yeah. Let's take it up, and then we should probably roll it then.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. Right. We need their one. Oh, okay.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yeah. Yes. Right? Because let's take a short recess.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Short recess.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Reconvening this joint committee hearing. We're moving on HB 159 relating to workers' compensation for the house. We have myself, Rep Matayoshi Rep Lee as co chairs, Rep Garcia as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, Co Chairs Keohokalole, Rhodes, and Kanuha.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. I believe we do have an agreement on

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Oh, and member Lamasao. Sorry.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Oh, who, who is excused? Sorry.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    No. No. I believe we do have an agreement on the CD. Yes. We do.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    And the footer for that is 2026-3369 HB 15O9 CD1 HMSO proposed dash 4.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. That's correct. Great.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    And we do have fin release? We do release.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. Do we have ways and means release? Yep. Yep. We do.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Great. Okay.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    So to read the description, this bill requires an employer to file a response either accepting or objecting to a treatment plan within ten days of receipt, imposes a monetary penalty up to $1,000 if an employer does not file a response within the ten day period unless there was a good cause for the delay. Clarifies that a treatment plan is deemed accepted if an employer fails to fill certain documents within ten day period. Imposes penalties on employers found to have improperly denied a treatment plan.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    This bill is effective on 07/01/2026.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. That works, Ross. And thank you members for being present.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Thank you. Alright. I'll be taking the vote for the house. Myself, I vote aye, Rep Matayoshi. Alright. Rep Lee Alright.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Rep Gideon. I'm sorry. Not kidding. Rep Garcia.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Thank you. May I take the vote for the Senate? Please. Alright. Chair Alfontin.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Aye. Senator Keohokalole. Aye. Senator Rhodes. Senator Kanuha.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Aye. Senator Lamasal. Excuse. Congratulations. They have a bill.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    I'll go.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Thank you, leader Kanuha, for being here. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yep. Thank you. Might have to pick a moment.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Alright. So we've got it. You wanna adjourn?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yeah. Alright. With no further business, this hearing is adjourned.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Alright. Welcome, everybody. We convene conference committee, 05/01/2026, 10:20AM, Room 16, several Senate bills for a sub Senate bill 411, Senate draft two, House Draft one. I don't believe our lead Chair is here. So with your indulgence, I'd like to roll onto the next one.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Senate Bill 2268, Senate Draft two, House Draft one, relating equity. This is for universal changing accommodations, public accommodations. I have to send it myself as Chair, co chair San Buenaventura, Kovali, and Kanuha, manager Owa.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    For the House we have myself, I believe, is co chairs or Pierrick as a manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Great. We shot a CD one over there. I think we addressed the concerns of the house and so far as exempting DOE, and I believe we have agreement.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Yes. We are in agreement.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. We still need to tighten up and finalize the FinWAM on this, though.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    You wanna hang out together again at 12:55PM in Conference Room 16 today? Yes. Let's do that. Great. We will see you in this room today at 12:55PM of Room 16.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Yes. That's right.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Hopefully, we'll be able to move on that. Okay? With that, we'll move on the next one. Senate Bill 2543 Senate Draft two, House draft two, building state construction projects. Yep.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    This is a state construction office manager with design review, special fund, and positions and appropriation. I have to send it myself as Chair, Co Chair, Wakai Elefante, manager Owa.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    For the house, we have myself and Rep Hasham, Rep Lee as Co Chairs, or Matsumoto's manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. On this one here, I believe we have agreement. We just need the infamous wind bam Wham fin release. Right?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Didn't Wham, Wham, Wham.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Yes. That is correct.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Alright. Very good. You can tell I have a lot of caffeine this morning. Okay.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    With your indulgence holding.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Them. Wow. We gotta squeeze them today. Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    With your indulgence, can we cruise back here at 12:55PM in Conference Room 16?

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    That works for us.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Right on, Washington. Okay. Great. So we will go ahead and see everybody back here at 12:55PM. Conference Room 16.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We will recess to await the lead Chair of Waterland. Recess. Thank you. Back again, there was one more bill on the agenda. Senate Bill 2601, Senate Draft two, House Draft one.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We are still awaiting the Chair of the Committee, so we'd like to recess until we can pick up those other two items. Everybody good? Alright. Recess. Hello.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the conference committee here in Room 16 1020 AM agenda. We're gonna return back to Senate Bill 411, Senate Draft two, House Draft one. This is small boat harbors and state parks. The use of funds for r and m with reports back to the legislature twice a year on behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co Chair Lee, and Moriwaki, and manager Fevella.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Yeah. On the House side, you have myself, representative Mori Kawa. Is not here.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Ejeta coordinating committee is next. Thank you. On this one here, I believe we have agreement on the language, but we're waiting, hopefully, at this point for FIN release because we do have WAM release. Yeah. Okay?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    You wanna try to get back together at 12:30pm at Room 16th? No.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    And how about you, like

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    yeah.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    We might might be a little bit late, but yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. No. That's fine if you're late. We'll just go ahead and recess out because this is important we get this done so we can actually see work done on our small boat harbors with a lot of money sitting in the fund. So it's worth coming back for, I think.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    So, yeah, we'd love to come back. 12:12 o'clock. 12:00. Sounds good. Oh, 12:12 thirty.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    My 12:30.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah. Clock to me twelve. Okay. Cool. It's Friday.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Right? Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    So we're coming back here at 12:30PM in Conference Room 16 on Senate Bill 411. Okay. Next up, we'll go to the final bill on the agenda, which is Senate Bill 2601 Senate Draft two House Draft one relating to procurement. This is a certification of available funds with a threshold amount and, of course, a position for the CPO, Baptist the Senate myself as Chair, Co Chair Moriwaki, and Rhodes, manager Favella.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the house, we have Co Chairs, representatives Tarnas and Kusch, and managers, representatives Poipoi and Shimizu.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Great. On this one here, I do believe we have agreement, and we have release or no?

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    You you sent and and thank you for your work on this, and we've looked at the CD one. I'm okay with it. I have not received finance release. Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We do have WAM release, and so you wanna try to come back at 12:30, and I'll be here. Beautiful. Love it. Okay. So we're gonna gather back here at 12:30PM in Conference Room 16 to hopefully be able to reconcile with release twenty six zero one and move it to upstairs.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Thanks, guys. Appreciate you being here and for your patience. Aloha, everybody. Welcome to the conference committee.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    This is on Senate Bill 2930. Give me one second for an agenda. I apologize. This is relating to state risk management revolving fund. This is the fund to rebuild the Lahaina School of the risk management revolving fund with reports to the legislature and appropriation as well.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co Chairs Hashimoto, and manager is.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    For the house, we have myself, replete as Co Chairs, Gideon as manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you very much. On this one, I believe we have a CD one that we have agreement on.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Yes. And we do have FIN release on this.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We have WAM release as well. With your indulgence, is it okay if we can just take a very brief recess so we can get our WAM designee here and we can vote on it? Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We're gonna take a brief recess recess. Alright. Welcome back, everybody. We are here for Senate Bill 2930. We have read out the agreed upon description of the measure.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    It is $200,000,000 from the RMRF, and I'm told that I need to read out the barcode of the CD one. And so I will 2026-2474 SB 2930 CD1 SMA.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Dash 1. Yeah.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We have a launch. Okay. Great. Appreciate it. So with that, we'd like to go ahead, and may I take the vote on behalf of the house?

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Briefly, may I read a breakdown of the 200,000,000?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Please do. Yes.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Great. So the total appropriation is 200,000,000. It's broken down as follows. $146,000,000 for planning design construction for the King Kamehameha Third Elementary School. This appropriation is contingent upon at least $40,000,000 being matched with the federal funds provided further that any funds reimbursed shall be returned to the funds from which the original expenditure was made.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    $30,000,000 for planning design and construction of off-site infrastructure improvements surrounding King Kamehameha Third Elementary School. $12,000,000 for roadways surrounding the coming Kamehameha Third Elementary School, including planning, design and construction. Finally, another $12,000,000 for design and construction for the rebuild of Peers loading dock electrical systems and pavement resurfacing necessary to restore the Lahaina Small Boat Harbor. This is the effective date of 07/01/2026.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. And these funds for the January and the 30 are coming from the SFA?

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Yes. That is correct.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And I like just to make a note for this. This project is of most critical importance. We have safeguards in there. And if this thing should get screwed up, I swear to gosh, I will work my butt up to policy SFA. Okay?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    So with that, can I take the vote of the house?

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Absolutely. Chair Sayama. Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Chair Lee. Aye. Representative Gideon. Aye. On behalf of the Senate, I vote yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Senator Hashimoto. Aye. And Senator O'Brien. Thank you very much. We have a bill.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Mahalo. Mahalo. Aloha. Welcome back, everybody. Conference committee, on one agenda item house and Senate 10:40AM, Room 16, Friday, 05/01/2026, Senate Bill 2075 SD one HD two relating to public procurement.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    This is the local preference for Hawaii bidders and offers and competitive sealed bidding proposals on behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, CoChair of Wakai, manager for Favella.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the House, we have myself as Chair, Hashem as CoChair, and member Gideon.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Great. On this one, the only difference were the blanks. Right? And so we have the amounts that we've suggested to the money committee. So we're our we're in agreement on the actual bill itself.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Right? So you wanna try to get together, like, 04:30pm and Conference Room 411?

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Perfect.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Perfect. Hopefully, we'll get released, and we can do this. Thank you, John. Thank you, Chair.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Well, welcome everybody. Conference on one agenda item house in Senate Room 16, 11:15AM, Friday, 05/01/2026. Senate Bill 2781. Senate Draft one, House, start two, blading lay. This is procurement lay with benchmarks and a, also, laboring requirements with penalties on behalf of myself as chair, McKelvey.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Kale Foley is is a Chair as well, Kanuha and manager. Oh.

  • Glenn Wakai

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the House, myself and Rep Kusch as Co Chairs and Rep Kaloa and Matsumoto as managers.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you. On this one, I know we've had some there was a serious departure from both sides on this bill. We recognize your concerns. However, in the interest of trying to make something happen, we toss the CD your way, which combines the two bills, which puts the working group into effect right away, but then establishes the statutory benchmarks of when they have to go to a certain percentage.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And then by the time the 100% thresholds reach all, that there'll be a complete bar on all state agencies using outside materials. This, I believe, gives a chance for the the growers and those impacted to come together with a plan, but puts pressure on them to actually produce a plan because otherwise the benchmarks kick in. So I'm hoping you guys can take that back, share it with the money committee. Maybe we could try one more time on this at 05:15 in Room 411.

  • Glenn Wakai

    Legislator

    Yep.

  • Glenn Wakai

    Legislator

    Thanks for your work on that.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah. Appreciate it. I think, hopefully, we can make something happen because I think we're in a pretty good place here between us. So is that good?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah. Alright. Thanks, guys, for being here. Appreciate it.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Reconvening on this joint conference committee. It is twelve, PM, Friday, 05/01/2026. We're in Conference Room 16. If might be able to take this, agenda out of order. Let's start with the HB 1661.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    We have no objections to that. Great.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    It's Yep.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. HB 1661 relating to cafeteria plans for the house, we have myself, I believe, as Co Chairs, Kapella and Reza Oda's manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, Co Chair Kim, and member Favella.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. I believe we have agreement on a CD. We also have FINRA lease on our end.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yes. So we do have an agreement on the CD. And just to double check the CD footer Yes. If you wanna read that first.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    26-3298 HB 1661 CD1 HMSO proposed. Yes.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    And we do have our WAN designated here. Do we have release?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yes. We do.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Oh, great.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. So just to recap this bill, this requires the maximum contribution and carryover amounts for a public service flexible spending account plan to be set annually in accordance with the maximum amounts allowed under Section one two five of the internal revenue service code. This is the effective date of 07/01/2027.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. I will go and take the vote for the house first. I vote aye. Rep Lee?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Aye. Rep Kapella? Rep. Excused. Okay.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    May I take the vote for the Senate? Please. Thank you. Chair Alfonso? Aye.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Senator Kim? Aye. Senator Fevella? Excused. Right?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    You have a bill?

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    I have a bill. You. Thank you.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. Let's move on, back to the top of the agenda, HB 1656, relating to indebtedness to the state. For the house, we have myself, Rep Lee as co Chairs, Greg Garcia's manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Hey. On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, co chair Kim, member Ihara.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. I believe we do have agreement on the CD, and are just awaiting Fin Weimer, really? Yes. Alright.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    We don't have any release on our end.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Great. So let's move this to today, May 1, 345 Room 411. Is that okay?

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yeah. Let's let's attempt to do it at least another time to roll this over and see if we get released.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yes. Yep.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. That works for us.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Great. Moving on, we have HB 1658 relating to collective bargaining for myself. For the house, we have myself, Rep Lee as Co Chairs, Rep Lee as ODA as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, Co Chair Kim, Member Lamosao.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    I believe similar. We have agreement on a CD and are awaiting ThinLine release. Yes.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    That's correct.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Let's roll this over to today, May 1, 03:45pm, conference in 04:11. Yep. That works for us. Thank you.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Moving on to HB 1663 relating to reimbursement of public em public officers and employees. For the house, we have myself, Rep Lee as Co Chairs, Rep Keohokalole and Reyes Oda's managers.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, Elefante as Chair, McKelvey and Kim are Co Chairs, member Lamosao.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    We do have agreement on a CD. I think we are just waiting Fenwayam release.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. That's correct.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Alright. Let's roll this over to today, 03:45pm, Conference Room 411.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Yep. That works for us. Thank you.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Next, we have HB 1664 relating to Hawaii Employer Union Health Benefits Trust Fund. For the house, we have myself, Rep Lee as Co Chairs, Rep Kapela and Reza Oda's manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, Rhodes and Kim, our co chairs, member Ihara.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Again, we do have this agreement on a CD for this measure. However, we are weighing thin line release. So let's move this over to today, 03:45pm, Conference Room 411.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yep. That works for us. Great.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    You wanna go to the other? Yes. Okay. Next, we have HB 2335 relating to workforce development. For the house, we have myself, Rep Lee as Co Chairs, Reyes Oda as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, McKelvey in Milwaukee are Co Chairs.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Again, I think we're still working on this one. So if it's okay with you, can we move this to today, three forty five PM, conference room before eleven? Yes. That works for us. Thank you.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Next, we have HB 2468 relating to internship programs. For the house, we have myself, Rep Lee as Co Chairs, Reyes Oda as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. On behalf of the Senate, is Elefante as Chair, Moriwaki and Lamosau are Co Chairs.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Believe we are working on a CD.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    I don't believe we have the CD yet. We have an initial preliminary draft, but I don't know if the finalized copy came through. Oh, you have? Yeah.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Oh, yeah. If you could send

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    How about we do this? Could we roll this roll this to 03:45? It gives us some time to review it, chair. I know this is a House Bill. Yeah.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    I said, thank you for your work on this. We'll review that and see if the language is good, and then we can decide from there.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Thank you. Yes. Let let's do that. So, again, we're reconvening on this measure today at 03:45pm, Conference Room 411.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yes. That works for us. Okay.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. And then our last bill is Senate Bill 2567, Senate Draft two, Health Draft two, relating to petitions to temporary restrain and enjoin harassment of an employee. On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as Chair, Rhodes and Kanuha are Co Chairs, Member Favella.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    For the house, we have myself, Rep Tarnas, Rep Lee as co chairs, Rep Gideon as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. For this one, Chair, we do have an agreement on the proposed CDE. We're just waiting for Fin and WAM release. Alright. So could we also roll this over to May 1 later today, 2026 at 03:45pm in Conference Room 411?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    That works for us. Okay This hearing is adjourned. Thank you.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Welcome back, everybody. We convene conference committee on two Senate Bills. At first, the Senate Bill sorry. I left my glasses behind. Senate Bill 411, Senate Draft two, House Draft two.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    This is relating capital improvements, project small boat, harbors map, the Senate myself as Chair, Co Chair Lee, Moriwaki, manager Fevella. Just me and Senator Fevella are here. Oh, and Moriwaki.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Of course.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yes. We go, oh, no.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    So on the House side.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We have ourselves, Corey, Koa, and Cesar. Okay. Out of there. Out of here. Well, thank you so much.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We appreciate you guys continue to work with us. I'd to try to roll this one more time to see if we can do this. We really appreciate your help because this will be an important win for our park and harbor users. So can we get together at 03:50PM in Conference Room 329? 350?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    350. What is that? 5.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    You said 355.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    It's 350 35.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    350. Okay. 350 and 329.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Correct.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Sir. So it's 03:50PM.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    And Room 329. Correct. Not the other way around.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yep.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Not the other way around. Exactly.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Okay. Gotcha.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you so much. We'll move on to the next one real quick.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Senate bill 2601, Senate draft two, House draft one relating to procurement. Have the Senate as myself as chair, Moriwaki, Rhoads as co-chairs, manager Fevella. Rhoads is excused.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. We're on Senate Bill 2601, Senate draft two, House draft one on behalf of the House. We have co-chairs representatives Tarnas and Kusch, and managers representatives Poepoe and Shimizu.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you very much. I know we're still waiting for a FIN release. Right?

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    That's correct. We still have not received release from finance committee. So if you would like to

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I would like to try this one more time if we could at 03:55PM in Conference Room 329.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    03:55PM in Conference Room 329. I will see you there.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Aloha, everybody. We are going ahead, and we are going to reconvene the conference committee on Senate Bill 411, Senate draft two, House draft one, because we have received the necessary clearance of the finance committee, and we have all available members to vote.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I'll see you there, guys. Thanks again for your help, Aloha.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And so we'd like to conclude this as we do not know if we continue to move it to a later time if we will be able to vote this measure. So with that being said, I'd like to go ahead, and we agree we believe I believe we agreed on a CD one, which the barcode is 2026-2452SB411CD1SMAD-2. That match?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Sorry. We're talking about the fin release, but Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Great.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    So, basically, we're taking the HD one version

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Correct.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    And putting an effective date on there.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Correct. With the with the reporting deadlines that we agreed on for the 30th end of the month. Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    May I take the vote on behalf of the House?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Chair Hashem.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Chair Morikawa? And manager Susan is scaring me. I vote aye. Senator Lee is excused. Senator Morikawa of Milwaukee. Oh, Oh, yes? Thank you, mam.

  • Kurt Fevella

    Legislator

    Yes, sir.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We have a bill. Thank you very much.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I greatly appreciate it. And Senator Fevella?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Reconvene Conference Committee, House Senate, 12:55pm, Friday, May 1, Conference Room 16. Two bills on the agenda. Senate Bill 2268, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 1, relating to equity. This is the universal changing bill. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chairs San Buenaventura, Keohokalole, and Kanuha, Manager Awa.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    For the House, we have myself, Rep Lee as Co-chairs, Rep Pierick as Manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you very much. On this one, we do have WAM release, but we understand you're still working with the Finance guides on this.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Can we try hail Mary maybe at 3:50pm in Conference Room 329?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay. That works for us.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    350PM in Conference Room 329, so we don't do what we did last time. Okay. Great. Next up is Senate Bill 2543, Senate draft two, House draft two relating to state construction project.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    This is the office of state construction manager with the positions. About the Senate myself as Chair, Co Chairs Wakai, Elefante, manager Awa.

  • Troy Hashimoto

    Legislator

    For the house, we have myself, Rep Hashem and Rep Lee as co chairs, Rep Matsumoto as manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. On this one, we're good to go, but we understand you guys are trying to get finance release?

  • Troy Hashimoto

    Legislator

    That's correct.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Can we try again at 03:50PM in Conference Room 329 with the other one?

  • Troy Hashimoto

    Legislator

    Yes. That works for us.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you so much. We really greatly appreciate it. Okay. We will see you guys at ten till four in 329.

  • Troy Hashimoto

    Legislator

    Sounds good.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Good afternoon. This is our 1:30pm agenda in Conference Room 224. It's Friday, May 1, 2026, and this is Senate Bill 148, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 3, relating to combat sports. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair. Rhoads, Wakai, McKelvey excused.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the House, we have myself as Chair, Grandinetti, Poepoe, Hussey as Co-Chairs, and Members Tam and Gedeon.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Yeah. Thank you, Chair. We have agreement. Waiting for release. Can we try one more role on this for...

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Definitely. We do have FIN release.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Oh, you do?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We do.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    We don't. So could we do 5:30pm here in Room 224?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Can do.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    See you at 5:30. Thank you. We're adjourned.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Reconvening on this Friday, 05/01/2026, 2PM agenda in Conference Room 224.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    This is Senate bill 2694 Senate draft two, House draft two relating to water carriers. On behalf of the Senate myself as Chair, Inouye and Decoite Co Chairs, Lamosao and Awa managers.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the house is myself, Co ChairsMatayoshi, and Co Chair Todd, and member Pierick.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. I believe we have agreement and, release. If I may, the, the agreement on a conference draft one is to amend the house draft two, requiring the PUC to adopt automatic adjustment mechanisms to be applied through 06/30/2029, so three years. And then grant the PUC discretion to adopt an automatic rate adjustment mechanism between that, between that may be applied through 07/01/2029 to 06/30/2033. Make the bill effective 07/01/2026 and sunset 07/01/2033.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Yes. And largely, what we are adopting is, I think, a fair compromise to include a both shall and a may clause for one cycle made for two and with the automatic sunset and understanding, that is what we are proposing and have agreed upon.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Yeah. Thank you, and thank you very much for your work on this. Before we vote, I would like to yield to the Senator from Molokai for additional comments.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Chair as well. I I do want to tell you that this bill is pretty hard to swallow. I think we've worked closely on both sides realizing that increases in any shape or form has literally hurt. In this case, I will say Molokai and Lanai because this is the only option for them aside from flying in stuff that could not be put on a plane to be flown in.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    I would tell you I just had a conversation with the CEO, Steve Christiansen, and these are some of the asks that I have asked. Because if we are to look at reductions in sale, his commitment, and I wanna quote his commitment to moving, Molokai from two to one sailings per week will his commitment will be to look towards solutions for all businesses. Two, he will position reefer containers in the port to store cold and frozen items at the cost of Young Brothers.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    He believes Molokai deserves better logistics overall, and he will work with the local community to build the right solutions. And I believe that trying to, work with, a company such as YB, which is the lifeline for for for Hawaii, I I do know that the increases will significantly impact those two islands.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    And at the same time, we know that at any time, without a cap at the 5%, we just saw what happened in November at the 25% increase. And as you guys know, energy costs will continue to go up. But I will trust that he will live up to what he said he will.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Senator, Keohokalole, Keohokalole has heard what he has committed to as well, but I wanted to put that on record that I don't think any of the islands deserve any less, but to make sure freight and those supplies get to them in an adequate time as well as affordable without gouging those individuals that will bear the burden of goods and services received on those islands. With that being said, thank you for the indulgence.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Chair.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    And I think those comments well received. And I think largely and I concur and agree that those islands definitely need some form of transportation. And I just wanna acknowledge, I think, largely, we're in this position because there has not been the enactment from the public utility commission on several things. So this is why we are where we are at. And there are other countries across the world that have implemented inflationary indexes for that sole reason.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    These are tough spokes, but I appreciate that. And thank you to YB for working with you.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Can I add? Can we have the comments of our Senator from Wolokai be entered into the committee report, please? At least in some measure to just clarify some things. I think that's important.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Yeah. That's applicable to committee report. Yes.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    We'll find a way. Yeah. Can we vote? Please.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Members on the Senate side voting on SB 2694, SD2 HD2 with a CD1. Chair goes aye. Co Chair Inouye? Co chair DeCoite?

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Senator Lamosao?

  • Rachele Lamosao

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Senator Awa? May I take the vote on behalf of the house? Chair Kila? Co chair Matayoshi?

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Co chair Todd? And representative Pierick is excused. We have a bill.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    And we're adjourned.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Reconvening our joint House and Senate Conference Committee hearing for Friday, May 1 on our 2:25 agenda in Conference Room 224. The only item on the agenda is HB 463, HD 3, SD 2, relating to eviction records. On behalf of the House and myself, Representatives Grandinetti, Poepoe, Miyake as Co-Chairs, and Representative Muraoka as Manager.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    I have the wrong sheet in front of me. Oh, here we go. On behalf of the Senate. Thank you. Myself as Chair, Rhoads, Wakai Co-Chairs. McKelvey excused.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    And we have FIN release. Sounds like you're still waiting on WAM. So if it's agreeable to you, Senator Keohokalole, if we could roll this over onto your 5:30 agenda in today in Conference Room 224?

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Okay. We will see you in two hours. Thank you, sir. This hearing is now adjourned.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Reconvening this 2:30pm, Friday, May 1, 2026 conference agenda in Room 224. In the interest of time of the Members, we will take the first measure out of order. That's SB 2487, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1, relating to the Public Utilities Commission. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Senators Wakai and Inouye Co-Chairs, and McKelvey, Awa excused. Oh, Awa is present as a Manager.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the House, myself as Chair, Co-Chairs Matayoshi and Perruso, and Member Matsumoto.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. We came to agreement on a conference draft a couple days ago, which you've been in receipt of, and we have secured Ways and Means clearance. Are you prepared to vote?

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    I am. And this bill reaffirms our performance based rate making, and changes from the most recent version were to effect the date and remove the provision for a preference of looking at historical costs.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Great. Yeah. Thank you for your work on this.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Members, on the Senate side, we're voting on SB 2487, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1, and we have a Conference Draft 1. [Roll Call] May I take the vote on the House side?

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    Please.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    We have a bill. Thank you very much. Okay. The next measure is SB 2471 SD2 HD2 relating to the powers of artificial persons on behalf of the Senate. Myself as chair, Rhoads co-chair, Senator Awa, manager Fukunaga, McKelvey excused.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, we have myself, reps Tarnas and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as co-chairs, reps Perruso and Pierick as managers. Just me and Russo are here. Oh, Nancy was here too.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Yeah. So this is just a simple cleanup bill for our democracy, and I I do appreciate your your work on this. We we are still trying to vet out the language, but I think we are getting close.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    So I agree. I think we've run there are list it's kind of a laundry list of items that we wanted to address. And thank you, Senator, for addressing pretty much all of them except for one big sticker. So we've addressed the dissolution reenactment of corporations, the perhaps two draconian penalty of just plea dissolution if anyone does anything like that. I appreciate that you've added in steps, punitive steps that the AG can take before complete dissolution of the corporation.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    The one sticker I think is still and I think the one sticker is still whether foreign tax, whether foreign and by foreign, I mean, you know, California, Texas, Florida tax can still come in to spend money here in the state of Hawaii when Hawaii tax cannot. And that seems to be a feature of the bill that that we're still discussing.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    That still does make me uncomfortable that a foreign PAC can come into Hawaii to spend money to influence our elections, influence ballot measures, and our own PACs here could not. And I talked to and thank you for allowing me to talk to the person who originated the idea of the bill in DC, and he confirmed that foreign PACs could still do this under this under under his bill idea. So that's something that we're still

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    I think the the clarification there, if I may, and then correct me if I'm wrong, is is less about the PACs themselves. It's about who can fund the PACs.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    That too, but also the fact that the PACs, those PACs and super PACs are both exempt from this bill would allow foreign PACs and super PACs to come in and influence our elections still, which isn't part of it. But you're right. The concept behind the bill is to prevent corporations from donating to these PACs to to prevent the funding from getting to the PAC in the first place.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    So our Hawaii corporations under the bill could not fund PACs, but mainland corporations could still fund mainland PACs. And because mainland PACs and super PACs are exempt from the from this bill, those mainland PACs funded by mainland money could still come in and influence our elections.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    And that is it's tough pill to swallow for for this bill.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    I have a 05:30PM Hail Mary agenda in this conference room that is filling with bills as we speak. Can we roll this bill to 05:30 and and keep working?

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    So I if I may offer

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Please.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Yeah. And and, again, I really appreciate your work on this. I hate Citizens United. I if there can be a vehicle going forward that is not gonna harm Hawaii interests, I think that we'd like to take a shot. But give us a couple more hours.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Let's keep talking, and, hopefully, we can come to some kind of arrangement. We have 05:30 shot in this room. 05:30.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Next measure is SB 2961, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1, relating to insurance. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Wakai Co-Chair, Awa Manager.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, we have myself and Yamashita as Co-Chairs. Rep Pierick as Manager. Everyone's excused but me.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. We have agreement on this measure. You have effectively wrestled the Senate into a compromise accepting the House position. We are waiting for Ways and Means clearance. Can we, what's your pleasure?

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    You know, we have FIN clearance. I'm happy with the version of the bill. I appreciate you working with us. If you want to keep it alive, we can put it on the 5:30 agenda.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    5:30 sounds good. Thank you very much. 5:30 reconvening on this measure here in Conference Room 224. Okay.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    And then we will adjourn this agenda.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Reconvening on Senate Bill 1166, SD 2, HD 2. It's 2:31pm, Friday, May 1, 2026 in Conference Room 224. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Inouye Co-Chair, or Inouye excused, Rhoads Co-Chair.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, we have myself and Rep Tarnas as Co-Chairs. Co-Chair Yamashita is excused, and then Member Manager Pierick is also excused. Are they Members or Managers?

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    I thought it was like one on the Senate side and it's like different on the House side because the House always gotta be different. So I'm saying Manager. So you're supposed to say Member.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    The House Manager. They're managing us.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    That's right. Sounds right. So we are also close on this bill. The proposal right now is a skinny version of this measure that applies specifically to HHRF and HPIA, eliminating the the private insurer aspect of it, and entering in a working group to to explore solutions for a segment of the community that has really suffered in these in these catastrophic events.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    The folks who do not have policy coverage limits that actually cover the losses that they sustained during the events, like the flooding that took place in Waialua and much of the damage that took place in Lahaina.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Yep. And I appreciate your work on this bill. I think the skinny version of the bill is the one that we should eventually go with. My hang up that we're gonna need to work out in the next couple hours is I don't want the insurance company to supersede the claims by the homeowners.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    So if the insurance company is taking the damage that the homeowner suffered and being able to recover damage to the homeowner without giving that benefit back to the homeowner themselves, that I don't necessarily want because we're not creating a private right of action for the homeowner.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    So the only one that can exercise this right now is HPIA and HHRF, which are a little bit closer to the state. That's why I feel more comfortable. And thank you for skimming the bill down like that.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    But I do wanna put in some kind of mechanism to make sure that any recovery by HHRF or HPIA in this regard gets back down to the policyholders to either lower their premiums or otherwise benefit them in some way because the policyholders are the ones that really got damaged. Insurance companies are paying out under contract. I need that benefit to get down to the policyholders.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    And we agree, we agree on this. And so it's about trying to make that so in the language of the bill. And so can we reconvene at 5:30?

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    My favorite agenda.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Here in 2:24. Stay tuned everyone. Thank you very much. We're adjourned.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Reconvening this 5:30pm hail Mary agenda on May 1, 2026 in Conference Room 224. The first measure is SB 148, SD 2, House Draft 3, relating to combat sports. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Wakai Co-Chair, Rhoads Co-Chair. DeCoite, McKelvey, Awa excused.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And on the House side, we have myself as Chair, Grandinetti, Poepoe, Hussey as Co-Chairs, Member Tam and Gedeon.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Yeah. Thank you for your work on this measure, Chair. We have not received approval from Ways and Means. And so my recommendation at this point is to defer this measure and try again.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Concur.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Recess.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Reconvening for this, 05:30 agenda on Friday, May 1 in Conference Room 224. We are on HB 463HT3ST2 related to eviction records on behalf of the house with myself and representatives Grandadani Poipoi Miyake as co chairs and representative Murrow as manager.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the Senate and myself as chair Rhodes co chair Wakai McKelvey. Excuse me.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    We have to introduce?

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    We do not. Okay. So I recommend we try again next year.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Yep. Take a bill. Yeah. And hopefully we get it through the finish line next

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    year. Okay.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    It'll be deferred in the next measure.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Thank you for your work on it.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Recess.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Reconvening the 5:30pm agenda for SB 2471, relating to the powers of artificial persons. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Rhoads Co-Chair, everybody else excused. Oh, and Awa. Yeah. If you want us to introduce your Members, then I'll go through it real quick.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, we have myself and Tarnas as Co-Chairs, Rep Keohokapu-Lee Loy is excused. Reps Perruso and Pierick as Manager. Pierick excused.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    So what's going on right now is you are reviewing a fresh CD that's still warm out of the printer with intermediate ultra vires penalties that we had discussed earlier. And so can we roll this until 5:50 so that at least you have a chance to read the thing?

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    I'm trying to find the ultra vires penalties and also the appreciate the change from not destroying a corporation and building it back up again. The I'm still honestly struggling with the foreign corporation, foreign pack problem. But I at least wanna make sure this is in here. I don't wanna roll it to...

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    In in the interest of allowing you to read a warm draft, let's roll it to 5:50.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    The next measure is SB 2961 SD1 HD1 relating to insurance. That's myself and, Senator Awa, Wakai is excused. And then I think it's just you on behalf of the house.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Okay. Yep. I think it's just me as

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Yeah. So, we don't have clearance. I suggest we defer.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Yeah. Agree.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. And then, the last measure is SB 1166 SD 2 HD 2 relating to Insurance. Behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Rhodes; co-chair, Inouye is excused.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    We have the house, we have myself and Rep. Tardis as co-chairs, Rep. Yamashita as co-chair is excused, and Rep. Pierick is the manager.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    So, you're also in possession of a warm CD that you I don't think you've read yet. So, let's roll the 5:50.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Okay. Okay. We're waiting for a FIN release on that one.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Okay. We're adjourned.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Reconvening on this 5:50PM agenda. We'll take out of order SB 1166, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2, relating to insurance. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, we've redesignated the Ways and Means Chair Dela Cruz as Co-Chair, and Rhoads Co-Chair on the Senate side.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    So on behalf of the House, we have myself and Rep Tarnas as Co-Chairs. Rep Yamashita as a Co-Chair. Rep Pierick is excused. We're out a majority of Members. We need Pierick or Yamashita.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    So I believe the agreement that we have at the table is just a working group on this measure. And partly focused on the under insured and uninsured communities.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    And even if we don't get a bill passed, I'm willing to engage in a working group this interim to try to figure this out.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Certainly.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Definitely an important thing.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    We'll move on on this agenda to the last measure. SB 2471, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2, relating to the powers of artificial persons. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Rhoads Co-Chair, Awa Manager.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    We have the house here myself and Rep Tarnas and Rep Keohokapu-Lee Loy as Co-Chairs, Reps Perruso and Pierick as Managers. So we've gone around and around on this. The House is willing to accept the CD 1 with the condition that if foreign corporations cannot be subjected to the same restrictions as Hawaii corporations, then we would put in a provision that would nullify the bill.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    I do not want us to be put in a position where Hawaii corporations are and Hawaii organizations, nonprofits are being hampered when foreign corporations are not.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    So I'm not sure I understand what's being proposed at the table.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    So I'm proposing CD 1 that you gave me, but the foreign corporation section on page 11, subsection F, and anything like that would be subject to foreign corporations being regulated like the bill intends, just like Hawaii corporations. If we cannot regulate those foreign corporations spending like we do Hawaii corporations, then I don't want Hawaii corporations to be put at a disadvantage.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    We believe that's what it does, but I'm not sure how we would execute that if it's correct. You know, I mean, this thing is most likely going to be subject to a legal challenge. So.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Very likely.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    It's just not...

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Anyway, if we're gonna do it, I got a minute. I mean, I'm happy to, I'm happy to stipulate to that. But I think I think... I'm sorry. I'm speaking on out of turn. Go ahead.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Well, shall we vote?

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    If you're willing to accept that change, then I'm willing to vote. Okay.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Voting on Senate Bill 2471, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2. The recommendation is to pass with a conference draft. [Roll Call]

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    You can please take a vote for the Senate.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    [Roll Call] Okay. We have a bill.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Do we, do you have, do you have a quorum on 1166?

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    I think we're out of, I think we're out of time. 6:00 already.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Yeah. We can vote at 06:00. Okay. Voting on SB 1166 SD2 HD2. Recommendations pass with a CD1.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Keohokalole goes aye. Dela Cruz?

  • Donovan Dela Cruz

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Rhoads?

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, I have Matayoshi.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Tarnas?

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Yamashita?

  • Kyle Yamashita

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    And Pierick excuse.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Yeah. I don't think we have the members.

  • Jarrett Keohokalole

    Legislator

    Yeah. We don't have it. Thank you. We're adjourned.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. Reconvening our conference committee meeting for public safety. Today is Friday, May 1. Happy Lay day, Senator. 01:45PM, Conference Room 016.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Let's open up with the House Bill 1628, relating to compassionate release. Myself, representatives Morikawa as cochair, Representative Tarnas excused. Representatives Iwamoto, Templo, and Shimizu as managers.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, co-chairs Rhoads and DeCoite are excused, and manager Inouye is also excused. You know, on this measure, I believe we have pretty much arrived at agreement on the language, but we have not yet received our Ways and Means clearance.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    So, you know, with a lot of the people who have come out today, if we could roll over to a time that hopefully, you know we'll be able to allow them to sort of remain and you know, see this bill through to the end.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. So 03:30pm?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    03:30 work for you?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Here in this in this Room 016.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Room 016.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    So, moving this one to 03:30PM here. Next one up is House Bill 2581, relating to Emergency Management. This is our emergency powers bill and our resilience hub program bill. Senator, I have a proposed CD1 that I emailed to you earlier today, and I'm gonna, give it to my conferees also hand across to you copies as well for your members.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    On my side, it's Representatives Tarnas, Morikawa as co-chairs and Representative Shimizu as manager.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. We will need to circulate that also with our members as well as our ways and means counterparts. We do not have ways and means clearance. So, if we can also roll over this bill to the 03:30pm time this afternoon.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    I think that's fine. Thank you, Senator. I will say this is an important one, I think, for both of us because of the parts one and parts two in here with the emergency powers as well as the resiliency hub.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    So we will move on to our next 1:45pm agenda, which includes, can I start off with House Bill 2443, relating to disaster services?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Myself and Representative Morikawa as Co-Chairs, Representatives Amato as Manager, and Representative Templo as Manager, who is excused.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Senators McKelvey and Chris Lee as Co-Chairs, and Manager Inouye.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Senator, I believe we circulated a CD 1. And in that bill, it is the disaster services specialist, integration specialist in HIEMA. We don't have FIN release. And so is this something that we could also move over to 3:30 today in this room?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    That would be acceptable. Fine. 3:30pm in... Do you have a copy of the CD? Can I have one later?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    I can have that emailed to Senator Inouye.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Oh, okay. Okay. We will make sure that we also distribute it electronically to the Members. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Next one.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    House Bill 2498. This is relating to care homes. On my side, it's myself, Representative Morikawa as Co-Chair, Representative Marten as Co-Chair excused, Representative Olds and Souza as Managers, all both excused.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chair Chris Lee, and Manager Inouye. Thank you, Manager Inouye, for being present.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    So this is another one. We have a conference draft to the FIN and WAM Committees. We have expanded this to include Leeward, Oahu, and so we're just awaiting any kind of money appropriations. Can we move this over to 3:30pm in conference, this Conference Room 016? Next one, Senator, is your bill.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Oh, definitely. Senate Bill 3109, Senate Draft 1, relating to the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency is an administration proposal that seeks to designate the administrator of the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency as an administrator and deputy director for the department. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chair Kim, and Manager Lee.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And on our side, it's myself, Representative Morikawa as Co-Chair, Representative Sayama as Co-Chair. He's excused, as well as Manager Souza, who's also excused.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. I believe on this measure as well we both do not have FIN and WAM clearance, although there are no dollars in the bill. This is an administration measure, so we're waiting patiently. So 3:30pm, Conference Room 016. Is that acceptable?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    That's acceptable.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you very much. If we could turn to the last item on today's agenda, Senate Bill 2109, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 1. This bill is relating to emergency preparedness communications.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    It would provide for emergency preparedness, both in terms of alerting people as to the kinds of supplies they should have on hand, as well as our expanding the range of populations that we wanna make sure have access to these communications. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chair Lee, Managers Inouye and DeCorte.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And on our side, it's myself and Co-Chair Morikawa, as well as Representatives Iwamoto, Templo, Shimizu as Managers.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. I believe we have distributed a preliminary proposed conference draft to our conferees, and we are awaiting Finance and Ways and Means clearance. What we have envisioned as part of this discussion is really working very closely with Department of Health and its SHPDA agencies, as well as a number of the community nonprofits so that we can address those who may have disability challenges, those who are hard of hearing, and those who have limited English speaking abilities.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    So you know, this is really kind of learning from the Kona Low storms and many of the challenges we've had during this past session, and I hope it helps us become a lot more prepared as well as resilient.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And just to reiterate, Senator, that would be working with these agencies in a working group to address some of those language and sign language issues.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    That's correct. That's correct.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. That's if we can see some of that language, that would be great. But yes. We understand that that's the that's the what we're envisioning with this bill.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Right. I believe we just have received a proposed CD 1 revision from our drafting agency. So we'll make sure we get that to you and your Members as well as some of the other stakeholders as soon as possible.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    That would be wonderful. So should we move this also over to 3:30pm today?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Excellent. That would be very helpful.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    In this room, 016. Wonderful. Thank you.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. We are convening, reconvening, this afternoon, Friday, May Day, at 2pm in Conference Room 016. And the bill before us this afternoon is Senate Bill 2645, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 1, relating to fire prevention. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chairs Elefante, and Members Inouye and DeCorte.

  • Linda Ichiyama

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the House, it's myself and Morikawa as Co-Chairs, Manager Souza.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. I believe that we had requested repeatedly Ways and Means clearance on this measure because I understand that you also have your clearance from Finance.

  • Linda Ichiyama

    Legislator

    Yes. We have released from Finance.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Maybe can you send us an electronic copy so that we can forward that to our counterparts?

  • Linda Ichiyama

    Legislator

    As as soon... Yeah. Okay. Sure. Yes. Yes.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We'll use that as sort of a reminder. Okay.

  • Linda Ichiyama

    Legislator

    A gentle, friendly reminder.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes. Yes. Okay. Are you amenable to reconvening this afternoon at what time? 3:45, in this conference room?

  • Linda Ichiyama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you so very much.

  • Linda Ichiyama

    Legislator

    I'll see you then. Thank you.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Welcome, everybody. We are reconvening our House and Senate Conference Committee Meeting. Today is Friday, May 1, 2026, and the time is 3:31pm at Conference Room 16. On the top of the agenda, we have HB 1839, relating to immigration. And on behalf of the House, we have myself as Chair, Tarnas, Hussey as Co-Chairs, Tam, Gedeon Members.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chairs Wakai, Rhoads, and Lee. And, oh, they're all present.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. Chair, we have an agreed CD 1, and we also have FIN release.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We have WAM release.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. This is amazing. It keeps happening. I wanna say thank you for your work on this measure. You've been delightful to work with. And I because of the House, we have to read out the description. So if you don't mind, may I start with that?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Certainly. Please proceed.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Thank you. So with 1838, we have...

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    1839.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    1839. Thank you. HB... I can't flip the page and speak at the same time. With HB 1839, this bill requires state and county law enforcement agencies to notify an individual in the custody of a state or county law enforcement agency of their rights before any interview with federal immigration authorities pertaining to certain matters regarding civil immigration violations can commence.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Designates all records relating to federal immigration authorities access to detain individuals provided by a state or local law enforcement agency as public records. The amendments, we removed all the town halls and all the different things that were required, and we made it narrowed and simple. And the effective date for this measure will take upon approval. Alright. Chair, is it okay if I may take the vote?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Certainly.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. [Roll Call] And then on the Senate, may I also take their vote?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Certainly.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. [Roll Call] Chair, we have a bill. Yeah. Could you?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I want your glasses. I'm seriously gonna get those someday.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Would you like to kinda proceed to the next bill so we can do the descriptions while you're waiting?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Thank you, Chair. As we move forward with the next bill, it is HB 1870, relating to protected community locations. On behalf of the House, we have myself as Chair, Tarnas, Hussey as Co-Chairs, and Members Tam and Gedeon.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chairs McKelvey, Lee, and Rhoads.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We have an agreed CD 1, and we do have FIN release.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes, and we have WAM release.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. And because of our rules, let me just get to the description for this measure. For HB 1870 by January 1, 2027, requires all state and county agencies that operate protected community locations to adopt and post written policies that identify non public areas, establishes procedures for warrant verification and staff response, prohibit the collection of certain immigration status data.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And require annual staff training and certain multilingual notices. Requires the Attorney General to publish model policies. And we amended this measure to make sure that these departments are able to adopt these policies. We also had taken out the appropriations, and we also added in UH in this measure. And this act will also take into effect upon approval.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Right. And then there were clarifying terms, which made it clear that we were speaking about the properties themselves and not the boundaries around them.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Correct.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    The surrounding areas. Thank you.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Now that we have that, may I have the vote sheet? May I take the vote on this? Thank you. [Roll Call] And then Chair, on the Senate, may I take the vote?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    [Roll Call] Chair, we have a bill.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. While you are kind of completing, you know, that side of this...

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    You wanna adjourn?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    I think we have one more item on today's agenda.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We do. Let's just adjourn this meeting.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We're convening on Senate Bill 2057, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2, relating to law enforcement. This measure also deals with immigration and assistance, prohibitions, and First Amendment protections. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chairs Wakai and Rhoads and Chris Lee. I'm sorry, Member Lee.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And then on behalf of the House, we have myself as Chair, Tarnas, Templo as Co-Chairs, and Members Hussey and Gedeon. Yep. The measure has no WAM. We do have FIN release, Chair.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Excellent. In that case, Members, we are prepared to vote. And so in the interest of time, we do wanna proceed as quickly as possible because we have two others really backed up against this bill. So if I may proceed with the votes.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    For the House, we need to just state the description, if you don't, if you don't mind. This measure prohibits any law enforcement agency or law enforcement official from entering into an agreement under federal law that permits state or county agencies to engage in immigration enforcement.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Prohibits law enforcement agencies and law enforcement officials from engaging in certain immigration related actions except under limited circumstances. And the amended language, we took out any language on protected locations and keeping it strictly to non cooperation. We also did some redefine on some definitions, and this also this measure or this act will take into effect upon approval.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you very much. Members, we'll take the vote now for the for the Senate. [Roll Call] May I take the vote for the...

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    [Roll Call] Okay. Thank you. We do have a bill. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. We are adjourned.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Reconvening our 03:30, our 01:45pm agenda that was called for 03:30pm in public safety. It's House Bill 2443 relating to Disaster services. I don't need to repeat who we have here. Senator, we don't have any clearance yet from, Finch. Shall we roll this to 04:30?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Certainly. That'll be fine.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    House bill 2498. This is relating to care homes. Again, we have no clearance yet.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    In this room, 1016. And then our last one, Senate bill 3109 relating to Hawaii Emergency Management Agency. Again, no VIN or WAM clearance.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    That would be fine.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    So can we roll this one to 04:30?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Can we roll this to 04:30PM here? Okay? K. And 016. Moving on to our next 01:45, 03:30pm Agenda relating to Emergency preparedness communication, Senate Bill 2109. Again, no further oh, this is yours, Senator. Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    House bill 1628, do you wanna take that one as well?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    We can take that one up as well. House bill 1628 are relating to compassionate release. Again, no need to read through all of our conferees. We have we have thin release on this.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Oh, you have thin release.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Relating to compassionate release. We've had it for a while.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Few months.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. No. I'm really sure. Okay. So can we move this to 04:30PM?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Here in this room, 016. And then House Bill 2581, relating to emergency management. Still no releases on either side. So we will move this one to 4:30pm in this room. So Senate Bill 2109, Senator?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes. Senate Bill 2109, relating to emergency preparedness communications. Also, no money release yet, so we would like to roll this one over to 4:30pm.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. 4:30pm. And I think that takes care of all of our agendas.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Alright. We are adjourned.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. We have, assembled here for multiple occasions, and we are here to vote today on Senate Bill 2645 Senate Draft three House Draft one in Conference Room 016. Today is Friday, May 1. Happy May Day to everyone. And this one is relating to Fire prevention.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    This measure amends last year's act three five nine to, modify some of the positions, that were called for in last year's, law and also to add a special fund for the office of the state fire marshal. Other than that, there are no new appropriations in the measure, and, we will sort of stand by until we, attain quorum. So, IT, we're not gonna reset. We're not gonna what is it?

  • Rachele Lamosao

    Legislator

    We'll just take a recess.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We'll take a recess.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Rachele Lamosao

    Legislator

    If I could if you don't mind, Senator, I'll explain the amendments that we're making. Okay. That'll be great. We agreed in our conference draft one to work off the house draft one. And, basically, we just put in the funding amounts, which was the 400,000 for the four positions and then an effective date upon approval.

  • Rachele Lamosao

    Legislator

    So we'll just take a recess until we get quorum. Do you wanna gavel us out?

  • Rachele Lamosao

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We're reconvening this afternoon's conference on Senate Bill 2645, Senate Draft three, House Draft one relating to Fire prevention. We have circulated the CD one proposals as well as the, finance and ways and means clearances. So we are happy to take the vote at this time. We're passing this measure with amendments, and, co chair Ichiyama has run through all of the, specific changes. So if I may proceed with the vote Yes.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    I vote aye. Board chair Belafonte? Aye. Manager Inouye? Aye.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    And manager Decourt is excused. May I take the vote for the house? Yes, please. K. Co chair Ichiyama?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Aye. Co chair Morikawa? Aye. And manager Souza. Aye.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. We have a bill.

  • Rachele Lamosao

    Legislator

    Thank you. Woo Hoo. Woo Hoo.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yay. Congratulations. Congratulations. No. We're gonna pass.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    30.

  • Rachele Lamosao

    Legislator

    So we Do you wanna adjourn us? 01:30. Okay.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Thank you. We're adjourned.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. Reconvening our Public Safety Committee meetings. It is 4:30pm, Friday, May 1. House Bill 2443, relating to disaster services. Still no FIN or WAM release. Can we roll this to 5:10?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Thank you. That's fine.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Going next to HB 2498, relating to care homes. We do have FIN release, but I understand that there is no WAM release for this one. So can we roll this to 5:10pm? Alright. Senate Bill 3109. Senator, you wanna take that one?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Senate Bill 3109, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1, Hawaii Emergency Management Agency. We, likewise, does not have a release for this one, so we'd like to move it to 5:10pm.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    In this room in 10 in 016? Sounds good. Moving next to our House Bill 1628, relating to compassionate release, which is also on the 4:30pm agenda. We don't have any, we have FIN release. No WAM release. Understand that Representative Senator DeCoite is the WAM designee. Have not heard yet anything from her. So can we move this to 5:10pm?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Correct.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    House Bill 2581, relating to emergency management. Again, no FIN or WAM release on this one. Can we move this to 5:10pm? Okay. Alright.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And then we have a final one, SB 2109.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    SB 2109, relating to emergency preparedness communications. Likewise, no releases. We would like to move to 5:10pm in the same conference room. And that brings us to the end of our agenda of six bills. Thank you.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    I'd like to call to order our joint House and Senate Conference Committee hearing for Friday, May 1. We are on our 4:30 agenda here in Conference Room 016. The only item on the agenda is HB 2606, HD 2, SD 1, related to all-site construction. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Hashem and Miyake as Co-Chairs, and Representative Pierick as Manager.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Senator Hashimoto as Co-Chair, and Manager Inouye. We would like to request a rollover to 5:20pm in this conference room, if that's agreeable.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    That sounds good. See you in a bit.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. We're convening the, committee on SB 3028 here in, Conference Room 016 for the senate Lee Wakai Dela Cruz.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have myself and representative Todd as co chairs and representative Moro Moro Oka as managers.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thanks. I think we're gonna need to roll this measure.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Did you have the

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Five five twenty one in this room, 016.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    016. Okay. Thank you. We're out. Good afternoon.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    We're convening the Conference Committee on SB 2401, relating to regional shoreline mitigation districts here in State Capitol Conference Room 229. For the Senate, it's me, Senator Moriwaki, and Lamosao.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yeah. On the House side, we have myself. Representative Morikawa is on my right and Representative Shimizu is on my left. We have quorum.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. I believe we have release. We're just waiting on one Member. Can we take a quick recess?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Sure.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    SB 2401, relating to regional shoreline mitigation districts. This measure sets up a framework for addressing shoreline erosion issues in the long short, medium, and long term.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes. And it does it in a regional...

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Regional area so that it it assigns OPSD and it just sets up the...

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yep. Okay. Are we ready to take a vote?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes. Oh, the effective date is July 1, 2026. There's no positions and no funds.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. With that, voting on SB 2401. Recommendation is to pass with a conference draft. [Roll Call] May I take a vote for the House?

  • Mark Hashem

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    [Roll Call] Thank you. Measure is adopted. Recommendation is adopted, and we're adjourned.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. We are convening a series of bills in conference this afternoon at 05:15pm in Conference Room 016. First up on the agenda is Senate Bill 2109, Senate Draft two, House Draft one. This is the Emergency preparedness communications measure. We have exchanged some proposed CDs, and I have present with me today co-chair Lee and managers Inouye and the court are excused.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    We have Morikawa, Iwamoto Temple of Shimizu.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. We have not yet received WAM WAM release, so we would like to propose that we roll this over until 05:40PM.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. 05:40PM.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    This room. This room. Okay. The next agenda is House Bill 2443.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    We don't have to go over the the members. Can we just say we'll roll this over to 05:44 05:40PM? Okay. I do believe we have we have a Fin release?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We have Fin release?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Fin release, but no Marley release. Correct?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. That's correct. So we will follow-up on that. For 2498, you also have Fin release?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Yes. We do.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. So we'll follow-up on that one. Last measure on this agenda is Senate Bill 3109.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    No release. No release on that one.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Oh, okay. Yeah.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    5:40.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Correct.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Our next agenda, hospital sixteen twenty eight relating to compassionate release. We have FIN release, but no WAM release.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    So 5:40?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    So we'll move this to 05:40PM. And then House Bill 2581, we have no release on those ones. Yep. Okay. So we'll move it

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    to 05:40PM. PM? Okay. Thank you very much.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    K. Thank you.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. We're reconvene the conference committee on our on SB 3028. You're in State Capital Conference Room 016. This being there being no movement on this. Can we roll this over to 05:50PM here in Conference Room 016?

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Yes. That sounds real real to me. Thank you. Reconvening the joint house and set a conference committee hearing for Friday, May 1. We are on our 05:20 agenda in Conference Room 016.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    The only add on item on the agenda is HB 2606 HD two SD one related to Off-site construction. On behalf of the house, we have myself and representatives Hashimoto and Miyake as co chairs and representative Pierrick as manager.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    K.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, cochair Hashimoto, and, manager Inouye.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Okay. We'll see you in a bit.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    We don't yet have interviews, and we're gonna give it one last shot here. So if it's okay with you, we can, reconvene at 05:49 in Conference Room 016.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    This hearing is now adjourned.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We are reopening our public safety, conference committees. We are waiting for some senators, so we're going to run through some of the other bills we don't have. We have, Senate Bill 3109 relating to Hawaii Emergency Management Agency. This is the one for the the salaries increase movement for the deputy director. Chair, we don't have agreement on this yet.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    So shall we move this to 5:50? Okay. 5:51.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    05:51pm.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    05:51PM. Looking at House bill 1628 relating to compassionate release, we don't have a WAM clearance, but we have FINS. So can we roll this to 05:51 in this Room 016?

  • Susan Lokelani Keohokapu-Lee Loy

    Legislator

    That would be fine.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    House bill 2581. This is our emergency powers bill and our resiliency program. Senator, do you have any updates on this one that we might need to assist?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We will not be able to support the retention of the expanded part one Okay. Of the bill. But we are looking to see whether we might be able to agree upon the part two portion of the bill, which deals with the community resiliency. So we are asking what is the means released for the remainder of that bill.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. I understand this issue is something that is pressing, but many in the community would want us to see it. But we have just simply run out of time on the part one. So, House position will be to, let's see if we can move the community resiliency hub program that's in the part two. Okay.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Can we roll this to 05:51 Okay. PM in zero one six? Thank you. K. Moving on.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Do you have any can we vote yet? No? Shall we

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Oh, Senate bill 2109, Senate draft two, House draft one relating to emergency preparedness communications. This bill is another that we have exchanged proposed conference drafts on, and we are waiting ways and means and FIN release. So can we roll this to 05:51PM?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Yes. Let's roll this to 05:51PM as well.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Conference Room 016.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    016. We are still holding and pending for House code 2443 and House code 2498. I don't wanna adjourn this, so I'm I'm going to just recess it. Yes. So that we can see if we can get quorum on the Senate side. So we're going to recess the remainder of our 05:40pm agenda.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Correct. We're in recess.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. We're coming out of recess for our 05:40 agenda.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Let's take up relating to disaster services. This is going to be the bill that has our emergency preparedness for disaster integration specialist. I have myself, representatives Morikawa as co chairs, representatives Amato, Templo, and Shimizu as the managers.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. On behalf Senate, myself as here, co-chair Lee and manager Inouye.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    This is the bill that has an appropriation of, I believe, a $100,000 for an one FTE. And that's is that correct?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. And so if I can take the vote, I believe we have agreement for this, Senator.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    So if I may take the vote, recommendation is to agree to amendments made. I vote Aye. Representative Morikawa, representative Amato, representative Tempo. Aye. Representative Shimizu.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    May I take the vote for the Senate?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Certainly.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Senator Fukunaga. Aye. Co-chair McKelvey excused. Co-chair Lee? Aye.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And Senator Inouye? Aye. We have a bill. Thank you. Can we take up the next bill?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Thank you. House Bill 2498. And we have everybody here. This is relating to care homes. Home.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    We have one more members. We house bill 2498 relating to care homes. This is our Central Oahu Leeward Oahu Community Resilience pilot program that has an amount of $1,000,000, in a funds, an effective date. I believe we have a, agreement, Senator.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Recess.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Can we well, recess.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Please.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Please work in a recess?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Please.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Yes. Recess. On house code 2498.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Are we off? Yeah. Are we off?

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Oh, would you gavel us out, chair?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    We are reopening our 05:40 agenda from recess. We need to do a motion to reconsider hospital two four four three because we had not had WAM release. So motion to reconsider, and then we'll just kinda keep it open until we hear we may hear further from from ways and means. My recommendation is to move to reconsider. I vote aye.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Representative Morikawa? Aye. Representative Amato, excused. And representative Templo?

  • Shirley Ann Templo

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    And representative Shimizu? Aye. May I take the vote for your side?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Certainly.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Senator Fukunaga? Aye. Senator Lee? Aye. And Senator Inouye?

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Alright. So we will stay here until we and vote on the next bill, and maybe we will get some word on House bill 2443. Moving to hospital two four nine eight relating to care homes. Chair, we have a a, again, an agreement that there is a million dollar, appropriation for this, and this is expanded, for Central Oahu and Leeward Oahu care home community resilience pilot program and an effective date. Okay.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    May I take the vote for this? Certainly. So the recommendation of the house and Senate managers is to pass with amendments. I vote aye. Representative cochair Martin is excused.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Cochair Morikawa, representative Oates, representative Susa. And on the Senate, may I take the vote? Yes. Senator chair Fukunaga. Aye.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Co chair Lee.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And Senator Inouye.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    We have a bill for this one.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes. With that.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    499.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Got it.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Oh, got it. Okay. Representative.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Got it. Okay.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    Absolutely. 443.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Hey. We are not we have not recessed, so we're going to reconsider the vote for House bill 2443 relating to disaster services. Again, this is the disability integration specialist in Haima with an effective date and an appropriation of $100,000 for the permanent one one permanent FTE. Senator, is that we have agreement in that for finance and ways and means? Yes.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. So if I may again take the vote.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Go ahead.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. For myself, house, I vote Aye. Co chair, Morikawa. Aye. Representative Amato is excused.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Representative Tempo?

  • Shirley Ann Templo

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And Representative Shimizu. Senator, if I could take the vote. Sure. Senator Fukunaga? Aye.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Rep Senator Kelvin is excused. Senator Lee?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And Senator Inouye? Aye. We have a bill again. Oh, graduation. And will be that allows us to adjourn this, and then we are gonna be reconvening all of these other bills at 05:51PM.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    It's actually beyond that. So I would say that perhaps we can take a recess.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    We will take a recess then.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes. Take a recess.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. We're coming out of recess from our five forty and five fifty one agenda. Senator, as we're nearing the 06:00 mark, I just wanna note that the bills we have outstanding are house bill 1628 relating to compassionate release. I understand we have agreement on the policy matters in this issue in this bill, but we do not have ways and means release. Is that correct?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    That is correct.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Okay. On House bill 2581, this is relating to emergency management. My understanding is that we have agreement with the policy language around the Hawaii Community Resilience Hub program striking the language around the emergency powers, and so we have only the part two. But we have no agreement from ways and means or finance. Is that correct?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    That's correct.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And then our last remaining bill is Senate bill 2109. Would you like to describe that one as that's a Senate bill?

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Let me see. That's two one zero nine relating to emergency preparedness communications. We have agreement generally with respect to the policy portions of the bill. We do not yet have ways and means and BIN clearance. And I believe we have, Senate Bill 3,109, Hawaii Emergency Management Agency.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We have general agreement on the contents. It's more of the ways and means and PIN release. And last item, did we cover 2581? We did. Right?

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    I believe we did cover 2581. So as it's nearing the 6pm or already into the 6pm mark, I wanna thank all the members. I hope that we can maybe continue these discussions as we do have policy agreement, and we're just waiting on ways and means and fin. But, you know, this is what happens in conference, unfortunately. I do hope there was some really, really good work done around many of these bills.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    So again, we have policy agreement. Senator, I just wanna say thank you. This is probably my last set of conference and committee, so it was really a pleasure to work across from you, both my counterpart here in the building for so many years.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    And then I do wanna thank all of the conferees on the house side as well as the Senate side because it's been a real pleasure to work with all of you over the last so many years, for some of you more than others. But that's my last comment, Senator, if you wanted to say anything since we are now closing, and it's 6:01.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Well, I'm hopeful that we will get, you know, some form of, fiscal release in the next few minutes. But, definitely, it's been a challenging time that we have been able to come up with some really creative solutions in addressing many of these issues. So thank you very much for your work.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we just wanna run the clock out?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    There's two other agendas that I wanna try and get in.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Maybe if we take a brief recess and that would allow where's the other committee? The housing committee has a

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Oh, never mind. 59.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I'm doing one on the call. Thirty seconds.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    Alright. Well, Senator, again, I guess we'll just close this. Everything else is k. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    We are adjourned.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    K. Good afternoon senators. Good afternoon. Today's date is the May 1. It's 01:33pm and we are in Conference Room 2 To 9.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Several bills on the agenda today. The first one is HB 1894, HD one, SD one regarding braille literacy. On behalf of the house, we have Woodson and Lee as chairs, La Chica Olds, and Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as chair, Michael V Kidani co chairs and the court member. But in honor of Mayday, chair, can we request that you provide us with a Hawaiian salt? Well, that was a tease.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    I don't know if you want that.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Well, in light of that, shall we do something with Braille?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Yes. Absolutely. We have been released on our side.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    You don't?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We do have been released on our side.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    So do we. So if you wanna give us explanation.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Excellent. Perfect. This bill, in essence, provides additional support for braille literacy and the braille literacy community. And it has a $300,000 appropriation to help support those efforts with a clean date.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Thank you. I think this is a a very important, bill for for those that, need it. And so I'm I'm pleased that we can pass this out today. So

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    As of my to vote?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Chair. Chair. I got demoted. Yes.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    [Roll Call] We have a bill.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    You have a bill. Thank you. Okay. Okay. One down.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    One down. We need to get okay. Next, we have HB 2344 HD one SD two. This is regarding school realignment. On behalf of the house, we have Woodson Yamashita as chairs, LaChicas and Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    I'd send myself as chair, Hashimoto co chair, and DeCoite as a member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, Senator. We submitted a CD, but we're still waiting on release on our side.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We did get a release with a $150,000 appropriation. So also signed by House Finance. So hopefully you'll get it soon.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    K. If we can roll this over, please, till today, 0229 in this room or the Conference Room 229.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    K. What time?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    What do we want? 04:00. 4PM? Is that okay?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Today at 4PM in Room 229, we will reconvene.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We are now on Senate bill 2,125, Senate draft one, house draft two. This is relating to teachers licensing, for emergency hires, and licensor progress. the Senate conferees, myself as chair, Hashimoto, and Decourt members.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have Woodson, Sayama, and Lee as chairs, La Chica, Olds, and Moraoka as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Have you in receipt of the CD one?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We're in receipt, and we are also been granted been released on our side.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Wonderful. We I I don't need WAM approval, so we can vote.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. And this proposal, in essence, just extends a purchase of hires from three years to five years with a clean, effective date.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Absolutely. It will certainly help us with our retention of teachers. Okay. So may I take the vote?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Please.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We are voting on Senate Bill 2,125. Senate draft one, House draft two I mean, House draft two with for the CD one. Chair votes aye. Senator Hashimoto? Aye. Senator Decatur? Aye. Good. May I take the vote for you at house? Yes. K. Represent I was gonna say I was gonna say, Senator, but representative Woodson.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Can we just wait one second, please? If we can roll this till 04:00 just to make sure Okay. We make sure we're on the same page.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Yeah. There's no money on this one, so hopefully.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    I think we're ready to go. Just gonna make sure we cross our t's and.our i's. So today at 04:00PM in this room, 229.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    K. I will keep the red sheet warm in this building. Okay. That takes us to Senate bill 2024, Senate draft two, House draft one relating to charter school facilities. Senate conferees, myself as chair Kidani co chair, Decourt member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have Woodson Lee as chairs, La Chica, Olds, and Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We did, pass over a CD one. Unfortunately, we have not received a WAM release at this point.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. We don't have the release on our side also, but I'm in agreement with the CD

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Before 4PM?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. And this room, 229, 04:00, May 1.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    Next item on our agenda is House Bill 2300 HD one SD one relating to Department of Education procurement. On behalf of the House, we have myself and representative Lee as co chairs, and we have representative Olds, Woodson, and Souza as managers.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as chair Hashimoto co chair Decorte member.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam chair. For this bill, we are I believe we are both in agreement on the CD one. Yes. And we also both have been we have been released on our side. on our side.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    We do too. Okay. We do. We do.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    For before I take the vote for House Bill 2,300 HD one SD one, our c d one takes the s d one draft and also puts in a $200,000 threshold for the Department of Education procurement. And I believe and we have an effective date.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. I'm sorry. But according to my release, it doesn't have any money.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    Yes. No money. It's just a threshold. Procurement threshold is 200,000. Okay. So

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    You got me worried right there.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    Okay. I will take it. If you're in agreement, ma'am, I'll take the vote.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    Voting on House Bill 2,300 HD one SD Recommendation is to pass with a CD1. I vote aye. Co Chair Lee? Aye. Representative Holt? Aye. Representative Woodson? Yes. Representative Souza? Aye. May I please take the vote from the Senate? K. Chair Kim? Aye. Co chair Hashimoto? Aye. And member Decor? Aye. Thank you. And chair we have a bill

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    a bill. Thank you. Yay.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Moving on to Senate Bill 2,877, Senate draft one, House draft one. This is relating to student authored book publication pilot in the Kalihi and Waianae Nakuli area. The Senate conferees, myself as chair, Kidani cochair, Hashimoto, Decorte members.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have my myself and representative Lee as co chairs and manager Moropa.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Thank you. Madam chair, I believe we sent over the draft and we have gotten our release.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    Yes. We have also we are in receipt of your draft, and we are in agreement of your draft, and we also received a release.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you so much. Shall we go ahead? And take it off?

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam chair. For this bill, I believe we are this bill would require the Department of Education to establish a one year student authored book publication pilot program, which authorizes

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    It's actually two years.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    Two years. Sorry. Two year pilot program, which authorizes this for grades four through six in the Kalihi, schools and Nanakuli Wai'anae school communities.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And I don't believe it's a requirement. We have it where the schools can opt in. So just to set it to it's it's it's got two reiterations. So the final you might not have the final on that.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    But thank you. Everything else is correct.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    No. Thank you. I know this is you you worked so hard on this, and this is very important to you. I don't know, Madam, if you wanted to share it.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yes. I think that as far as literacy, we really need to engage our students and have our students have these student projects in class so that they are excited about writing and they gain confidence that they can become authors and take pride in their work at this young age that will help them as they progress forward. I think it's another tool for our teachers as they engage the students in the classroom and keeping them interested in reading, writing, and and sharing their story.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So with that, I really wanna thank you, chair and the house, for, seeing the merit in this program with a very low cost. So Yes.

  • Trish La Chica

    Legislator

    $50,000. Yes. Fiscal year 26-27.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And then matching with private funds, 25% minimum matching. K. With that, I'll take the vote. Okay. We are voting on Senate bill 2877, Senate draft one, house draft one, conference draft one.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Thank you. Remember to we have a measure. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Congratulations. We are on. I'm listening. The next one is yours.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. Next, we have HB 1888 HD three SD two. This is regarding safety of our educational workers. On behalf of the house, we have Woodson, Sayama, Tarnas, and Lee as chairs and Mara Oka as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    For the Senate, we have myself as chair, Elefante Rhodes, Wakai co chairs, Decorte member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Chair. For this, we have release on our side, and we're ready to vote if you are.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes. We also have release on this side, and we feel that this is a very important measure as well.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Can I ask a question before we proceed? So the the draft, I guess, it was yesterday's draft. What was the difference between that one and it was Friday was the one before? Or can I can we roll it in the calendar? Let me just review it real quick. I can I can go over what the changes are?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. And so your yours basically had it created a protected class. The penalties there in were a little bit harsh. And so we lessen those those offenses, and we made a we created a misdemeanor instead for harassment. So that's a significant change between the two drafts.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Okay. Alright. That's fine. Yep. Okay.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    And then also, what the bill does is it provides additional administrative and protective supports for our teachers and our sports officials. It also says that the attorney general can help obtain TROs for these educational workers that need it. This is a shift in the industry standard, and we greatly appreciate that. And as I said before, it creates a misdemeanor for harassment, if I said that correctly, mister chairman, okay, with a clean date. Any questions?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    I also want to thank I don't know if she's here today, but Mrs. Lindsey Chambers, she has been an advocate on this proposal for many, many years. And we greatly appreciate her advocacy. Inger Stonehill, it was a staunch advocate. We could not cross the finish line without them.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    And Amy Takaki, who is unfortunately not with us anymore. She was very involved in this proposal, but we greatly appreciate all their efforts. It is a great bill. You wanna say anything, madam chair?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    No. I think this bill is needed, and I think it helps to protect all our teachers and and administrators, workers, as well as our umpires and and coaches, I mean, referees. So thank you for this.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Yes. We can do better. Yeah. K. And we'll take the vote. Chair votes, aye. Chair Sayama? Aye. Chair Tarnas? Aye. Chair Lee? Aye. Manager, Muraoka? Aye. Thank you. Madam chair, may we? Yes, please. Chair Kim? Aye. We have any glasses. Chair Elefante? Aye. Chair Rhodes? Aye. Chair Wakai? Yes. Manager Decorte? Aye. Okay. We have a bill.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yeah. another bill.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Finally. Okay. Moving on to the next bill, we have HB 1891, HD one SD one. This is with regards to dyslexia screening.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Woodson Lee as chairs, La Chico Olds, and Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, we have myself as chair, Kidani Co chair, and the court member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. Madam chair, for us, we have, money release on our side.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    We also have money release, and and this is another important bill, especially for the community, with dyslexia.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    I would think with dyslexia. And I think it'll go a long way in helping, helping us recognize, those children in in our classrooms that need the extra help because of dyslexia.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Absolutely. We can do better, and I think this bill will go a long way to do that. I wanna, for this one, particularly thank David Miyashiro with Hawaii Kids Can. He's been very involved, and we appreciate his advocacy as well as his as his partners as well. Bill has a clean date.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    And, Chair may we?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you. We have a bill. Thank you. I can't hear this.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We're on a roll. Hopefully, we can keep it going. Yeah. Senate Bill 2,613, Senate draft one, House draft three relating to public school land transfer.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as chair, Lee Kidani co chairs, DeCourte member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have Whitsun Hashan and Lee as chairs, Morioka as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    K. I believe that we did send over a CD one, and we did receive WAM and FIN approval.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    I did not receive money approval on my side, but we're most certainly in agreement with this bill.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. It is a nonapproval I mean, there is actually no money on it, but we still needed to get it released.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Okay. Okay. So we'll wait.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Sorry. I I said I said WAM and FIN. I meant just WAM. Okay. Okay.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Rolling over to 4PM?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Yes. And this Conference Room 229. Today. Today, the May 1. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Let's see. We are on Senate Bill 3063. Senate draft one, house draft one. This relates to the Department of Education procurement for local food and procurement exemption for the Senate, myself, as chair, Kidani co chair, DeCourte member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Woodson Lee as chairs and Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We did send over a CD one. We have not received a release at this point. Have you folks received?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We do not have been released as well.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. So if we can move this one over. Okay. Today at 4PM in Room 229. Yes.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Thank you. Okay. Senate Bill 3325, Senate draft one, House draft two. This is relating to public school Medicaid reimbursements, for the Senate, myself as chair, Milwaukee co chair, the court member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Woodson, Martin and Lee as chairs, Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And then, we have sent over a CD one, and, we do have WAM released. Do you have a FIN release?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We don't, unfortunately, have FIN release on our side.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Hopefully, we will roll this over. Okay?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    To also 4PM 229

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    It's Room 229.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    I think this is a really important measure. Mister chair, I know you folks are in agreement. These will bring us millions of dollars in Medicaid reimbursements that the state is due to the services that's provided, to the students. And our schools and other jurisdictions of the same size have, gotten up to $44,000,000 a year. And so this is really important income that the state can use for other important, programs.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    I agree. I've heard similar figures.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. And finally, you are is that it? Okay. That's it for this agenda. So we will go into adjourn.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. Good afternoon. We are reconvening our 01:35 agenda. The time is 01:55. We're in Conference Room 229, and today is May 1.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We have one bill on the agenda, HB 1890 HD three SD two, regarding teachers and annual increases. On behalf of the house, we have Woodson, Syama and Lee as chairs, LaChica, Olds and Souza as manager.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, chair. On behalf of the Senate is Elefante as chair, Kim and Kidani, our co chairs La Masaau as a member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. Perfect. Mr. Chairman, we have money release on our side, although there's an appropriation we have released. Okay.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Before we go, can we make sure we have the right draft? Okay. 2026 Dash3288.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    That's my job. Quick recess. Okay. Re convening our conference committee for HB 1890, step increases. And, mister chairman, we do have the correct draft.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. And checking to see if we have a quorum. Do we have WAM release?

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    We do have WAM release.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Okay. Awesome. Thank you. I think we're ready to vote.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. And this job basically says that, educators will receive an item automatic pay increase that is contingent upon the CBA, the collective bargaining agreement, and it has a clean date. Yep. Okay.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Perfect.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    I'd like to comment on this. Yes. Go ahead. I think this is monumental. I think this bill validates the value we have in our teachers to state that, you know, they they deserve to get these step increases.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    It's been part of their, contract for over a decade, and so finally, we can validate that. So thank you folks for our hard work on this.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    And if I just may echo, Chair Kim's words, chair, thank you for your hard work, and to the committee and to your vice chair, and members for getting us to this point and all the advocates, especially HSTA, for that. So I think this is very valuable and very impactful for our hardworking teachers. Yes.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    I concur. This is definitely a national best practice, and we're so ecstatic to get to this point. And I went to special, mahalo, Jason Bradshaw with HSTA. He was he was a respondent that made sure that everyone stayed together. So we greatly appreciate him on this.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    And with that, Mr. Chairman, if we could take the vote Yes.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Please proceed.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. We have a bill.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Call back to order. Our conference committee, it's May 1. We're on the one thirty six agenda item. Senate bill 2550, Senate draft one, house draft one relating to school modernization, school facilities for the Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto co chair the court member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam chair. On behalf of the house, we have Woodson Yamashita as chairs, La Chica, Olds, and Souza as manager.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Can we roll this one over? I believe there's still items that needs to be resolved If we can resolve it. So if we can come back at 4PM

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Today in Room 229. Okay.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Let's most certainly try.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, mister chair.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Now convening a conference committee for higher education. Today is Friday, 05/01/2026. Happy May Day, everyone. It is 03:04pm. We're on the 3PM agenda here in Room 229.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We have one bill on this agenda, House Bill 549 HD three SD one, bringing us back from last year, relating to an early learning apprentice grant apprenticeship grant program for the house, myself, and co chairs Martin and Lee, managers, Amato and Susan.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Thank you for the CD. We've put it over. It looks okay. I have

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    the Sorry, Senator. Just wanna introduce your side. Oh, fine. It's okay. Just protocol.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Absolutely. I'm too anxious to get moving.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I can certainly relate. Do you wanna introduce

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Oh, you you introduced yours already? Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. Send it constantly. Your so focused.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Myself focused.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    You're not even hearing

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    me. I know. Can we start again?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yeah. Rewind.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Myself is chair Kidani, co chair Hashimoto, Decoite members.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, Senator. So yes, thank you for your willingness to reengage on this issue. You know, we were in the very same seats last year on down to the last day. Unfortunately, we couldn't get been released on the costs for this early learning apprenticeship grant program.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I do feel that we've been making a lot of headway through the ReadyK Key initiative and other programs on the facility side. And I do feel that apprenticeships, this model would work really well for early childhood education. So the CD one that we, sent to you for your consideration, again, just thank you for entertaining this, essentially sets up the grant program to be run through the University of Hawaii's College of Education. So all that part stays the same.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Recognizing that, you know, again, the tough budget situation we're in this year, there is no appropriation in this bill.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    But I the house does believe there's still value in setting up the framework for this program with the hopes that there might be private foundations or other donors who might be willing to start this program up with some seed money. And then if all goes well, hopefully, you know, when we have a better fiscal situation that the state might be in a position to help scale that up. So in the CD one, you know, there are provisions in

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    here making sure that the College of Education as they do provide assistance to eligible early learning program service providers, to cover again, a multitude of costs that might go

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    with this, including personnel, training expenses, stipends, and whatnot. We wanna make sure that there's no kind of sole source, business going on. So we do have language, for your consideration regarding ensuring that there's open and equitable access to such providers, you know, having transparent eligibility criteria, Again, avoiding the sole source exclusive contracting arrangements, just to make sure that all the service providers on the committee would be, considered for this.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Appreciate your work on this, chair. Did you focus in on what fund would be under?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We believe that the trust fund, as set up, would cover the concerns that we that were brought to our attention earlier, whether it was a revolving fund or whatnot. I think because there is a early there is a program similar. I think it was yeah. Sorry. I don't wanna misquote the existing fund, but there is a trust fund that works along this.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Because I think had expressed to me that they would like it to be under the revolving, count under the, education, the College of Ed.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes. The challenge with the revolving fund is it would not, serve, it would not be eligible to accept private donations in that fund. So I was told that there is a in 03/2356, there's a Hawaiian early learning trust fund that's set up, and they suggested that as a model. So we believe the the definition we have for this trust fund should address their concerns.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So we believe there's enough latitude here, but if you would like to verify that, by all means, please do.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    I would like to do that.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Of course.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    You can roll this one over.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    To 515.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    515 sounds good.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Room 229?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay. Okay. So with that, we are adjourned on the 3pm agenda, and we'll wait a couple of minutes for the 03:10 to adjourn. Thank you.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Now convening the conference committee for higher education. Today's Friday, 05/01/2026. It is 03:10PM. Conference Room 229. We are on the 03:10PM agenda.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We have a series of reconvenes from earlier in the week. Up first, we have House Bill 1970, HD two SD one relating to the University of Hawaii Cancer Center. For the House, myself and Rev Hossy as co chairs, managers, Amato and Souza.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as chair, Mori Waki co chair and the court manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay, thank you, Senator. I believe last time we convened on this, we did send a CD one for your consideration, changing the means of financing to a general fund appropriation of $350,000 Any thoughts on that proposal?

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    No. We have a release for $460,000 from the special university special tuition and fees fund.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. You know, at this point, the house's position is we would prefer a general fund appropriation. Again, just recognizing that there is broader public value in having this tumor registry, and that it should be funded through general funds as it has been in the past.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    It has been funded by Vint. It was federal appropriations that funded it. And, yes, we funded cancer center. We have increased the tax for the cancer center, and they have received monies out of the tuition and special fund. So I believe that the funding is there.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    At any rate, I don't have approval for general funds. I just have approval for special fund.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. We'll take that under advisement. Can we reconvene on this also at 05:15 today? Okay, Hospital 1970 HD 2 SD 1, 05:15 today, Room 229. Okay, up next to Hospital 2339 HD one SD one relating to the University of Hawaii revenue bonds for the house myself and Rep Hussey as co chairs, managers Capela and Souza.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Before the Senate myself as chair Hashimoto, co chair of DeCroite member.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Senator, I believe this along with a bunch of other ones on the agenda today, we are in agreement conceptually on a CD one. We just don't have release from Fin on our side.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Okay. Well, we have we have release on our side. Okay.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    believe this is leftover from last year. So yeah. Let's see what this is. One second. Yeah. We have a release for $28,500,000.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Senator. So bonds. Yeah.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes. Conceptually, again, we're in agreement on the cap for revenue bonds for 28,500,000. Also adding in the proviso from last year's bill, and I'll just articulate that out loud.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So the proviso here is provided that students residing in the University of Hawaii student housing services program who demonstrate financial need as determined by the University of Hawaii and who qualify for the resident tuition fee pursuant to Section three zero four eight dash four zero two HRS shall be assisted with the housing allowance type in or similar financial aid to help offset a portion of any increase in room and board cost resulting from increased debt service caused by the revenue bonds authorized pursuant to this act.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So we are amenable to that provision for consistency with last year's auth authorizing language.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    So

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So, again, if we can just do this at 05:15 and I will follow-up with finance on this one.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Yes. That's acceptable.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    K. Thank you. Okay. I caught myself. I almost introduced the next, set of bills, but they are Senate bills. So passing the gavel back to you, Senator.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    You can introduce it if you want. Senate bill 2657, Senate draft one, house draft one, relating to Alzheimer's disease and related dementia research, Japsy, chair, countries, myself as chair, Makalvi Kidani co chairs, and the court member.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator, for the house. Myself and rep Hussey is co chairs, managers, Amato and Maroka.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    K. I believe we have a CD one draft, and we have received a release on this matter. Have you folks released have you released?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Again, Senator, I know we've had we are on agreement on the CD one. We do not have FIN release on this one as well, so I will again follow-up on this one.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Okay. The amount is for 375,000.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Correct.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Our release has your chair's signature on it. So

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. It might be stuck in the queue, but I will follow-up on that one. Okay. So this would be for a total appropriation of 375,000, which includes two state funded FTEs with an effective date of 07/01/2026.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    I believe that Alzheimer's disease is affecting many of our residents and it's really important that we get a handle on this and this is a good start.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We're 100%.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Okay, thank you. So we're going to be back here at 05:15 in Room 229 today.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Okay. Next item is Senate Bill 2,802, Senate draft one, House draft one, relating to agricultural science bachelor's program at the University of Hawaii. I believe at West Oahu, the conferees for the Senate, myself as chair, Kidani cochair, the court member.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator for the house. Again, myself and Repassi as co chairs, managers, Amato, Capella, and Maroka.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    Okay. Again, this measure, we passed over the CD one and we have received release from Ways and Means for $375,000 I'm sorry, that's enough.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    No. It's okay. It's the same same amount.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    It is the same amount.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We're being consistent. Correct. Okay. And again, we're amenable to the CD one. Same as the other preceding bills, we're just waiting on fin release.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    You have to be much sorry. Hold on one second. Senator, do you mind if I just verify something on this bill? Can we roll this one also to 05:15? Yeah.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    This is the one that we have Ways and Means on.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    And FIN signatures.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Let me just double check that. And again, we are in agreement on this bill. So 05:15 also in this room.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Right. 229.

  • Michelle Kidani

    Legislator

    229.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Senate bill 2969, house Senate draft one, house draft one, relating to the Maui wildfire exposure exposure study and Maui health registry. Myself as chair, Michelle Kidani co chairs, the court member.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator, for the house, myself and rep Haci as co chairs, managers, Amato Capella Souza.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. At this point, there is a question regarding the amount Yes. That was provided to the committee, which was sent in for approval for, release. However, we were told that amount now has changed, and we have not received any release at this point in time.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes. Yep. And I think last time we discussed this, we talked about $500,000 appropriation. Right. And know Senator McKelvey was taking the lead on this.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We've since received some emails suggesting that that 500,000 is insufficient, and I believe you received those same emails, but we'll wait to hear back if there's additional, funding potentially available for this bill.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    So we'll roll it over to five fifteen. Time is getting short. I'm aware of these issues, but hey. We're diehards, right, to the last minute. Okay.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Ride or die.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    K. Senate bill 3238, Senate draft one, house draft one relating to language access. I'm free for the Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto Cochair, the court number.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    K. Thank you, Senator, for the house, myself, and Rhett Miyake's cochairs, managers, Amato Kapalasooza.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Again, I believe we have sent over a c d one. Have you received it?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We are in receipt, and we are amenable to this. If I can just check-in with finance on this one. Okay. I believe you have WAM release on this one.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So again, if we could just verify this. Can we also do this at 05:15?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    I do. Okay.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. And this is $375,000. 375 seems to be a common denominator.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. So Senate bill 3238 SD one HD one 05:15PM in this room today. Two two nine. Okay. NIL, this will not be $375,000.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    It could be. Senate bill 3,263, Senate draft two, House draft three. This is relating to student athletes' compensation or name, image, and likeness. We are in the process of redrafting, the CD one for your consideration. So if we can put this over to 05:15 Okay.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Hopefully, we'll have something by then.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. And we look forward to reviewing that CD one. So, again, just sorry. Just for the record.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    For the house, myself, Matayoshi, Tata's co chairs, managers, Olds and Maroka.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And for our Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto co chair I'll take the back. Myself as chair, DeCord Hashimoto Keohokalole, co chairs, and DeCord manager. So we know that one.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And finally, Senate bill 3286, Senate draft one, house draft one. This is, relating to the University of Hawaii, student housing master plan. Senate conferees, myself as chair, Hashimoto cochair the court manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator, for the house, myself and Rep Miyake's cochairs, managers, Smuraoka. So, yeah, as we said at the last meeting, we appreciate the CD one and the work that Senator Hashimoto put into this. We are amenable to it. Again, just pending pin release on our side. Do you have WAM release on this one?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Not at this moment, and there is no money attached to this

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Correct.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    So hopefully, we'll be able to give us release.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Senator Hashimoto has some homework after this. Okay, so can we also roll this over to 05:15?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes, today in Room 229. Okay, we didn't make a dent, you know that one.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Everything is

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    That's okay.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We'll make everything exciting. How's that? Okay. Thank you, Senator. We are adjourned.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Hey. Good afternoon. We are reconvening this conference committee meeting. It's Friday, May 1, 03:30pm, and we are in Conference Room 229. And we're here for two measures.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    First measure on the agenda is HB 1605, HD1 SD1, relating to human and community resilience. On behalf of the house, it's myself and reps Garrett and Kush as met as co chairs and rep Matsumoto as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as chair, Kidani co chair, and the court member.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay, Senator. I know we've had agreement on this for a while, and it doesn't look I don't have release from either WAM or finance. So

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    No. And I've checked with them, and I they didn't say it was forthcoming either.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So Okay.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So yeah, we can just

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Shall we just

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Defer this.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Defer and try again next year.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Yeah. Okay. Senate bill 2320 of Senate draft one, house draft one. This is relating to agriculture.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    This is the agriculture careers, Kuleana, AgTech Pathways for the Senate, myself as chair, Gabor Kidani co chairs, the court member.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, myself and reps Garrett and Kush as co chairs, and rep Matsumoto as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    We did go ahead and amended the original bill. I thank the chair, the egg chair, for the reduction in the cost of this program, and we have put in a request to, for release and have not heard from them. And I haven't been given any, encouragement that something would be forthcoming, so I'm not sure what it is like on your side. It's I'm pointing to that

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I haven't got any indication either. So

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    k. What is your pleasure?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I don't know. I'll I'll leave it up to you, Chair, since it's a Senate bill.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Sorry, Arnie. You can roll it over, but I don't know what's your bill. Okay. So we will add it to our five fifty

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I'm gonna do five twenty.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    05:20. 05:20. 05:20. K. 05:20 agenda.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    In this room?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    In this room. 229. Okay. K. We are.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Senators. This conference room is two to nine, and it is May 1, 04:07PM.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    The first bill we have is HB2344 HD1 s D two. This is with regards to, school realignment. On behalf of the house, we have Woodson Yamashita as chair, Souza and La Chica as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto Co chair, and the court member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. On the, house side, we have been released, and we're ready to vote if you are.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We do too. I just wanna thank Senator Hashimoto for his hard work and representative Yamashita for working on this measure. So with that, yes, if you can take a vote.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you so much. And this proposal establishes a public school realignment process within the DOE schools. And it has a clean date with a $150,000 a appropriation. That

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    is correct.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Perfect. Okay. I'll take the vote for the house.Woodson votes aye [Roll Call] We have a bill. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    K. We are on Senate Bill 2125, Senate draft one, house draft two relating to teacher licensing. This is for emergency hires and exemptions. For the Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto, and the court members.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have Woodson, Sayama, and Lee as chairs, and La Chica as manager along with Olds and Morioka.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    When we last met, we were going to double check if you had a release on this measure.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, Senator. We have release now.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Did you want to go through your spiel again? Or

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Sure. This proposal basically gives all emergency hires five years to go through the licensure process. It also has a clean, effective date.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. So should I take the vote?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    We are voting on Senate Bill 2,125 for conference draft one. [Roll Call] We have a bill. Perfect. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    K. Senate bill 2024, SD two HD one relating to charter school facilities. The conferees for the Senate, myself as chair, Kidani co chair, and the court member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Woodson Lee as chairs, La Chica, Olds, and Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We have sent a full CD one over to you, but we don't have any release. Do you have?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We do not have release as well.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Is it likely that we will have a release or what's your estimation? Is it worth rolling over or not?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    I would like to roll it one more time if you can.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    One more time? Okay.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    To 05:00 in this conference room, 02:29, May 1. Thank you. 229, today.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Very optimistic chair. K. Senate bill 2613. Senate draft one, house draft three, relating to public school land transfer. The conferees for the Senate, myself as chair, Senator Lee and Kidani co chairs, and DeCorte member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Woodson Hashim and Lee as chairs, Muruoka as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. This is another one with the CD one. I believe we have some agreement on this, and we do have one release about

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay. We are still seeking release on our side. Okay. I'll check on that if you can please roll this till 05:00. Yep. In this room, 229, May 1.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Senate bill 3063, Senate draft one, house draft one. This is relating to Department of Education procurement, the confluence for the Senate, myself as chair, Kidani Co chair, DeCorte member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Woodson Lee as chairs, Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. I don't believe we have a release on this one. Although we have given you a draft, and I believe we have agreed on that concept, but no release.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Yes, madam chair. We are in agreement, but we do not have release on our side as well. K.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    You wanna roll this over as well to 5PM

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    In this room, two two nine today.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Yes. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Senate bill 3325, Senate draft one, House draft two. This is relating to public school Medicaid reimbursements. The Senate conferees myself as chair, Moriwaki co-chair, the court member. Oh, I don't know that I have that.

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, we have Woodson, Marten, and Lee as chairs, and Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Did you do you folks have release?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We do not have a release.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We do not.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    You don't?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. So we roll this one over.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Because I don't have a quorum, it seems. Okay, rolling over to 5PM, today, May 1 and Room 229. And the last item on the agenda is Senate Bill 2550, Senate draft one, House draft one relating to school modernization.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Senate conferees myself, as chair, Hashimoto co-chair the court member.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    K. We have a we have release. No money is involved.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Wooson and Yamashita as chairs, La Chica, Olds, and Souza as managers.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    I'm not sure if you folks have one.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We do not have release on our side as well.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. So we'll roll this one over as well. So we have approximately 45 minutes.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    It's Room 229. 229. May 1st

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  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Call to order the joint committees on conference. It is May Day. It is, been a long day.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    It is 05:03PM. We are on a 05:00 agenda. Senate bill 2024, Senate draft two, House draft two, related to charter school facilities. Conferees for the Senate is myself as chair, Kidani as co chair, the court member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Good evening, senators. On behalf of the house, we have Woodson Lee as chairs, La Chica, Olds, and Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. This is for the pilot program for public partnership. And we do not have a release for this.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We do not have release also on our side. I like the concept, but perhaps we should try again next year.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. So this is this item is deferred.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Next item is Senate bills two six one three, Senate draft one, house draft three, relating to public school land transfer, Senate conferees, myself as chair, Lee Kidani co chairs, and a court member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Woodson, Hashim, and Lee as chairs, Murielka as manager. Okay. We do have a failed release. I mean,

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    we have release on this one.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We have release as well? We do have release now. Can we we vote? Yes. This bill is simply just a two m k transfer bill, and it has a clean date. Okay.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Let's see. I have are you the are you the representative? I think you're the representative. Okay. You're the liaison.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. It's just that Shirley is not here, and I thought he was the representative. But since he's not, we can vote. So can we take the vote vote sheet, please? Okay.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    We are voting on Senate Bill 2,613 conference draft one. Chair votes aye.[Roll Call] We have a measure. Thank you.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    K. Senate bill 3063 relating to Department of Education procurement for local foods, Senate conferees, myself as chair, Kidani Cochair, and the court member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Woodson and Lee as chairs, Souza as manager. We do not release it as well.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. So I guess we're coming back next year on this one?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Moving on to Senate Bill 3325, Senate draft one, house draft two relating to public school Medicaid reimbursements. Confer is myself as chair, Moriwaki cochair, and DeCorte member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, we have Woodson, Martin, and Lee as chairs, Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. As related, when we last met, the Senate does have release for this measure. There is no appropriation required on this. And what it does is it puts money back into the state and reimburses us for all the monies out spent by, our schools to support, students that have special needs and fall under Medicaid eligibility.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Yes. I like the bill, Senator. I just wasn't able to get it done, so we do not have release.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. It's very disappointing. I have to say that I know we need revenue and we need funds, and we've been leaving anywhere from 20 to $40,000,000 on the table. And I cannot fathom why we would not pass this measure. But it's to respect the fact that you folks, or maybe not you, but the money side, which again, there's no money on this measure.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    yeah. I take responsibility, yeah. I didn't get into that. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. So we're deferring this measure. And finally, Senate bill 2550, Senate draft one, house draft one. This is relating to school modernization. Conferees, myself as chair, Hashimoto cochair DeCorte member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have Woodson Yamashita as chairs, La Chica, Olds, and Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Again, Senate has a, release. I understand House does not?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. So there's another one for next year. Okay, matter is deferred, and I believe that is the end of this agenda.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We do not.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Convening conference committee on higher education. It is Friday, 05/01/2026, 05:15pm. We have a handful of bills on our agenda with insight of an hour before our deadline. It's a very exciting, Senator. Up first, we have House Bill 549 HD three SD one.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    This is the early learning apprenticeship grant program from earlier today. For the house, I have myself and chairs Martin and I'm sorry, representatives Martin and these co chairs, managers, Amato and Souza.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    For the Senate, myself, miss chair Kidani co chair Hashimoto DeCorte members.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    K. Thank you, Senator. So we did, circulate a CD one for your consideration. I believe where we left it off was that you were gonna check regarding the, the fund, whether it should be a revolving fund or a trust fund. Did you have a chance to

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    I didn't do that. I'm sorry. Had other measures that we talked about.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    You could just take my word for it that you each said it was good.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    It's yeah. Okay. But we don't have

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    we didn't get any. We didn't get any.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yeah. So we don't have a fin I say fin. Why I'm released at this point?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    So I don't know if you wanna roll it over.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Can we? Just one last Around? Shot. Yes. Okay.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Does five does 05:45 work for you? Okay. Or would you like to go well well, I guess it depends how much time you might need.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We'll do five. How about 05:50?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. 550. 05:50PM for house bill 54983 SD one in this room Yes.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Today? Okay. Yes. Thank you, Senator. Appreciate your consideration of this one.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. Continuing on to our other, 05:15 agenda from bills that were deferred from 03:10 earlier today.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Up first, House bill 1970, HD two SD one relating to University of Hawaii Cancer Center. Myself and reps Hassy as co chairs, managers, Amato and Souza.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    For con for Senate, myself as chair, Moriwaki co chair, DeCoite.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes. Thank you, Senator. We are in receipt of your CD one. I'm fully aware you have a WAM release, allocating 460,000 from the tuition and fee special fund. It is gonna remain the House House's position that the general fund is the appropriate way to to go on this.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    I understand that this hour, we're probably not gonna get released for 350,000 from either side. Okay. It is my hope that So if the university does, as you had suggested earlier, that the university does have this tuition fee special fund, a pretty healthy balance that I certainly recognize. If they decide to ultimately backfill any federal cuts or cost shares, they can do this out of that fund on their own without legislation being necessary.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    So we we both recognize how important this registry is in terms of cancer research.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And I've I have urged them to do that.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    So Okay. So unfortunately, we'll, defer hospital 1970. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Senator.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. Up next, House Bill 2,339 HD one SD one, relating to the University of Hawaii revenue bonds. This is administration bill. For the house, myself and rep Haci as co chairs, managers Cappella and Souza.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    For the Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto co chair, DeCorte member.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. So this one, thank you for your patience. We do have FIN release on this one, so we are prepared to vote.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. And we also have, WAM release for 28,000,500.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes. Correct. So that would be the the cap. Yes. 28,500,000 for the revenue bond cap.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    And, I did read out the proviso earlier, so we'll just ask people to refer back to the 03:10 p. M. Agenda. To save us some valuable time here.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Sounds good to me.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay, and also an effective date of 07/01/2026. Yes. Okay. So for house bill 2339 h t one s t one, the recommendation is to pass with amendments. [Roll Call] We have a bill. Thank you very much.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Moving on to Senate bill 2657, Senate one Senate draft one, house draft one. This is relating to Alzheimer's disease and related men dementia research for the Senate, myself as chair, Makalvi Kidani, co chairs, and the court member.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    K. Thank you, Senator. For the house, myself and rep Hussey as co chairs, managers, Amato and Maroka.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We do have a WAM release for $375,000. Did you receive the same?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    You know, Senator, I know we both agree on the the value of this bill and the need to establish this research center. Unfortunately, I was told that release will not be forthcoming from our side. Okay. So regrettably, we'll have to, suggest deferring this measure and hopefully try again next year.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. And moving on to Senate bill 2802, Senate draft one, house draft one. This is relating to the bachelor's program, and the Senate conferees, myself as chair, Kidani cochair, and DeCorte member.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator, for the house. Myself and rep Hussey as cochairs, managers, Amato Capella, and Nuraoka.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. And also in this, for this measure, we do have a WAM release as well as signature from your chair, House Committee on Finance, for $375,000 in corporation, one FTE.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes. And, thank you for your patience on this one. We did indeed have been released, so thank you for allowing me to verify that. So we're prepared to vote on this one, unless CD one has agreed to.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Great. Okay. Again, we are voting on Senate Bill 2802 for conference draft one. And this appropriates funds to a bachelor of science degree program in the agricultural science at the University of West Oahu to fund full time positions and for supplies and equipment to support the program. So with that, can I take the vote?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Senator, can we push this to the bottom of the agenda while we just confirm one thing?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    There might be a little mistake with our paperwork here.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Thank you for your indulgence. May we move on to Senate bill 2969?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes. Senate bill 2969, Senate draft one, house draft one. This relates to the Maui wildfire exposure study and Maui health registry, Senate conferees, myself as chair, Michael V Kidani coaches, and the court of the member.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator, for the house, myself, and rep Hussey co chairs, managers, Amato Capela Souza.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. I know we had put in for request. We have not received anything on for this measure, have you?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    We have not either. What would you like to do, Senator?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    So the card is not here. I don't know if it's worth coming. We can Let me give a help. Do you do you want us to roll this over and try in another twenty minutes to see if we can get released? K.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Five fifth five five zero. And this room, 1229.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    K. Thank you, Senator.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Senate bill 3238. Senate draft one, house draft one. This is relating to language access. Did we vote on that already?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Nope. This is the one we were waiting for.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    This is the one we're waiting for. Right.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    So, the Conferes for the Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto cochair DeCorte manager

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    K. Thank you, Senator. For the house, myself and rep Miyake as cochairs, managers, Amato Kapalasouza.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We did have agreement on the CD one, and we did get WAM, released for $375,000, for language access.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes. Thank you, Senator. You know, I'm looking at the release memo, and I know we have agreement on the 375,000 as we've discussed along with three FTEs. I'm sorry. As I look at this FIN release memo, it does not count as well, just like the other bill that we're trying to verify.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Mine does not show the FTE either.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Is it okay if we defer this to five fifty just to confirm that the three three point OTE is in fact the right number?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes. 515, 229. Okay. Senate Bill 3263, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 3 This is relating to the NIL student athletes compensation. And, Mister Chair, we did give you a CD1

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    At your request. It was drafted. It's hot off the press. It reflects the latest proposal offered by your Fin Chair to support our student athletes, for NIL at the University of Hawaii.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. We are indeed, in receipt of the CD one. Appreciate the the time and effort you put into this. If we just may have some time to consult with our.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes. I would like to just explain, seeing it's such a late hour and.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Concern you. So, basically, Senate Bill 3263 proposed in the beginning with that $5,000,000 of special funds be put into endowment fund to be matched by gifts and private donors.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    This new proposal in the CD1, that was crafted by your Finance Chair, puts in 2,500,000 in general funds, of which 1,500,000 would be allocated upfront to be used this year for NIL as a bridge, and that the 1,000,000 balance would go into the endowment along with 4,000,000 of special, University of Hawaii special funds for a total of 5,000,000 in the corpus in the endowment.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    That 5,000,000 would be matched with gifts and private donations, and the 4,000,000 of special funds will remain as UH funds and will revert back to UH should this fund cease to exist. So there's really no expenditure by the university.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    This special fund currently has a surplus of over $200,000,000 and funds from this fund has been used to supplement the cancer center as well as funded $3,000,000 by statute to support the UH Foundation. So there is precedent for that as well.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you for the explanation, Senator. We will, again, take the Senate proposed CD1 under consideration.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. And shall we roll this over to 555 ? We'll put it on the 555 agenda.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    559? 550.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    550. Yes. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    229.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, Senator. Again, we will again, appreciate your time on this, and we will give it due consideration.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Senate bill 3286. SD1, HD1. This is the University of Hawaii student housing master plan. Conferi is myself as Chair, Hashimoto cochair, and the court manager.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, Senator. For the house. Myself, Miyake is co chairs, managers, manager Muraoka.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We have received release on this. Have you received your release?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    I'm sorry, Senator. We, have not received release on this one. I'm not sure if it's forthcoming.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Senator Hashimoto, do you have any crystal ball about this? No crystal ball? Do you want to roll it now?

  • Troy Hashimoto

    Legislator

    No, We're moving on.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We are moving on.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes. He's a, he's a busy man.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    This item is deferred.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay, thank you Senator. So if you could just, can we just recess for a quick minute?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    I know we have two bills that we've just discussed, I'm having agreement on that I would like love to vote out just now.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    So just a short recess, recess.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    So I've got a callback to order the, Conference Committee on Education. We were on the five.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Fifteen.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    5:15 agenda. We are going to adjourn that agenda and move on to the next one. So adjourn.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Call to order, Conference Committee. It's May 1, so we are on the three, we are on the 5:20 agenda. We are in Room 229. We are on Senate bill 2320, Senate Draft One, House Draft One related to Agriculture and the, kuleana AgTech pathways. For the Senate, myself as Chair, Gabbard, Kidani co chairs and the court member.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    We have in the house, myself, Garret, and Kusch as co chairs, and we have Matsumoto as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Do you have any update? No. No update. Okay. We tried. So at this point, we'll defer. We'll hopefully come back next year. Okay. Okay. We are adjourned.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Call the committee back to order, Conference Committee back to order. We were on the 05:15 agenda.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Correct. Thank you, Senator. So we're still waiting on clarification on SB 2802 and SB 3238 regarding the FTE count from Fin. So maybe roll this to 5:50 as well?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you very much.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    5:50 in this room.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    In this room, five. Yep. So, again, two bills, Senate Bill 3238, SD1 HD1, and SB 2802 SD1 HD1.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Along with the NIL bill.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Along with the NIL bill. Correct.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    We are adjourned.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Thank you. Is it?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    5:50 agenda. I'll be your copilot.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Call to order. Committee conference committee on the 5:50 agenda. The first item.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    One. No. No. No. 3263, please.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    3263.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Can I just?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes. Go ahead.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. First bill is Senate bill 3263, SD2, HD2. This is NIL bill. For the house, Garrett, Matayoshi, Todd, Olds, Muraoka. Good. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as Chair, we have DeCoite, Hashimoto, Keohokalole, chairs, and the court members.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, Senator. Appreciate again the CD1 you put together. The house is amenable to that. Can we vote this out, please?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Can you say that again?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes. Great work.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Well, it, it's been a teamwork on this measure, and I'm just glad that we are able to support our student athletes. I think this is a win-win situation for everybody. So thank you.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Well said. Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Please call the vote.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. This is the Senate Bill's, I believe, you have the vote sheet.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Oh, the Senate vote. Where is my head sheet? Okay. Got it. Okay. We are voting on Senate bill 3263, Conference Draft 1. Our Chair votes aye from the Senate. [ROLL CALL] May I call the House?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    [ROLL CALL]

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We have a measure, Chair.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Thank you so very much, Senator. May we switch to Senate bill 3238? We did verify the FTE count. I have, sorry, Senator. Senate bill 3238 SD1 HD1 relating to language oh, I'm sorry.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yeah. Language access. For the house, myself and rep Miyake as co chairs, managers, Amato, Kapela, Souza.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. And for the Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto co chair, DeCorte, member.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Thank you. So we did verify the language on this one, the 1.0 FTE. So thank you for your patience. We're ready to vote on this one, on the CD1 as agreed to.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. So vote sheet on the side. Okay. We are voting on Senate bill 3238, a conference draft. For the Senate, chair votes aye. [ROLL CALL]

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Please, may I take the votes for the house?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    [ROLL CALL]

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Next bill, House Bill 549 HD3 SD1. This is the early apprenticeship bill. Any chance?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    I didn't get anything. I'm sorry.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. No. No.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    I don't know all of this, and I even tried calling you, which I didn't get any answer.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. No. No. I understand. Again, I appreciate your willingness to entertain this.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Let's try this again next year. Okay. Hopefully, what state appropriation is done. Thank you. The next bill we have is Senate bill 2802 SD1 HD1, Relating to University of Hawaii.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    This is the West Oahu Agricultural Sciences Bachelor's program. For the house, I have myself and Rep Hussey as co chairs, managers, Amato, Kapela, and Muraoka.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, we have myself as chair, Kidani co chair, and DeCorte, member.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, Senator. While we again just verified the FTE account, we are, we did verify that.

  • Ikaika Hussey

    Legislator

    Yes. One FTE.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    One FTE along with the dollars, dollars we had talked about. I believe it was 375.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    So thank you for that. Would you like to take the vote, please?

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes, we're ready for the vote. So we are voting on Senate Bill 2802, Conference Draft 1. Chair votes aye. [ROLL CALL] And for the House, Senator Garrett.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Did I just get a promotion.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    You did. Get over to this side. No. [ROLL CALL] Excuse me. Okay. We have another bill at 05:57PM. Is that it?

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    I believe we covered.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Oh, we have the the the wildfire measure.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Yeah, I didn't get anything. I assume.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Defer. Okay. So on.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Senate bill 2969 relating to the Maui Wildfire Exposure Study and Maui Health Registry. We have no release on that measure, so we will defer this measure.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    Understood. Thank you, Senator.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Does that, is that everything on the agenda? Please tell us now. We're good. Okay.

  • Andrew Garrett

    Legislator

    A few minutes to spare. Thank you very much, Senator. It was a pleasure.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    To spare. We are adjourned.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    I'm going to call to order, the conference committee on education. We are going to be reconsidering, reconsidering, what's the measure?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    SB 3325.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    SB 3325 relating to public school Medicaid reimbursements. For the Senate conferees, myself as chair, Moriwaki as cochair, DeCorte, member.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have Woodson, Martin, and Lee as chairs, Souza as manager.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Okay. We previously deferred this measure. We are now reconsidering it. Hi. We are in 229. He is almost here. We just opened on it. Can you leave the door open so he knows where to come? Okay. Okay. So.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    We need one more. We're ready.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    You're ready? We are ready. We are in agreement on Senate Bill 3325 on Conference Draft One. For the vote, Chair votes aye.

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    This bill is, for DOE to maximize their Medicaid reimbursables.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay. [ROLL CALL] May I take your vote?

  • Justin Woodson

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Donna Kim

    Legislator

    [ROLL CALL]

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. We are convening the Conference Committee, Friday, 05/01/2026, 01:40PM in Room 329. First up on the agenda, we have HB 1801, HD1, SD1, and we have a proposed Conference Draft relating to child welfare services. On behalf of the house, we have myself and Representative Hartsfield as chairs, Olds and Alcos as members.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as cochair, and Senator Fevella as member manager.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And for this one, because I believe we are able to vote, I just wanna do a brief description. This appropriates funds for the Department of Human Services to contract with one or more organizations specializing in domestic violence to provide training and consultation virtually or in person to staff in child welfare services branch offices statewide.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And this one is different than the one we heard in committee, only in that it's adding the appropriation for $200,000 and effective date of 07/01/2026. And, also, it narrows the scope of work to focus on the investigation workers as opposed to every every type of worker due to the budget constraints. Is there?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And that the appropriation language needed to go directly to DHS, which I believe is.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yeah, this one always went to DHS. Yeah.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay, I have no problem with that.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. And then we do have our release.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And so we need to work right about that.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. So then the recommendation is to pass with amendments. I'll take a little bit of the House first. [ROLL CALL]

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. And may I take it for the Senate?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    [ROLL CALL] Fantastic. We have a bill.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. For SB 2803, SD1, HD1 relating to homelessness, this bill basically is, funds the state office of homelessness and housing solutions operations. For the Senate, myself as chair, Senator Moriwaki as cochair, Senator McKelvey as member manager.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have myself and Rep. Hartsfield as chairs, Olds and Alcos as members.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. For this one, Senator Moriwaki, my cochair has pointed out that there is a problem with one paragraph and that we need to, can we roll this one over to 05:00 today?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yes. We can. And can I get?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes, I need your signature.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Thank you very much.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    So next one is SB 3204 relating to family resilience pilot program. This basically funds the Office of Wellness and Resiliency to, by appropriate money to the Department of Human Services to contract with one or more organizations specializing again in domestic violence training to provide training and on-site staff in child welfare services.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Think it is a different bill. This is the peer support navigator. Do you want me to read my blurb I have on it?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes. Sorry. I'm reading the wrong one. It makes sense.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    I wrote this bill, so I have I have it right here. So peer support navigators hired by the Office of Wellness and Resilience to get at risk families on benefits and enter parenting classes or other sources of family support.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    That's correct. Thank you thank you very much. And I should know because this is my bill.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    I know it is.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yeah. Yeah. It's a one year pilot program, basically, to to ensure that they'll be able to continue the good work and hopefully to prevent more child abuse.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And I don't think we've read out who the conferees are yet.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Oh, yeah. So for the Senate, it's myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as cochair, and Senator McKelvey as member manager. And this one, we do have WAM release.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, it's myself, Representative Hartfield as co chairs, and Garcia as member, and we also have release.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. May we take the vote for okay. So are we ready to vote then?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    So for SB 3204 SD1?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yes. We are. Thank you.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Just sorry, sorry. My Fin.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Don't have release?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    No. No. No. We have release.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    You don't have your designee?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    No. No. No. We're, we're good. We just have to read out the information. The changes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I thought we did.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We, I read what it was about. I didn't read the changes. And so.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Go ahead.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yeah. If that's okay. So the amount added in is 600,000, and the, the appropriation shall take effect 07/12/2026 and bill approved on 06/30/2028. Thank you very much.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. And I didn't think there were any changes, but that's fine.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    No. I was just adding in the information in this blank.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. The 600,000. Okay. So are we ready to vote now?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yes we are.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you very much. So it is 1:49. Okay. Chair's recommendation is to pass SB 3204, SD1, HD1, CD1. [ROLL CALL]. May I take a vote for House?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    [ROLL CALL] We have a bill.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. We are con we convene a conference committee meeting, Friday, 05/01/2026, twenty forty five PM meeting scheduled in Room 329. And first up on the agenda, we have HB 2208 relating to food security. This is the Hawaii Farm for Families program. On behalf of the house, we have myself, Krish, Keohokalaloy as co chairs Yep.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And also as members.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. On behalf to sense myself as chair, Sandra Kanuma as co chair, Sandra Cabela as member manager.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. I do not have FIN on this one. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    So shall we roll this over to 05:10 just to make sure?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We can put it together on the 5PM agenda. We can put them all together. Right? All the ones we're rolling. So it's one agenda.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Usually Is that is that okay?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Usually, because we don't we don't we we don't

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    You don't we don't agenda? You keep it separate?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yeah. No. Because otherwise, we're gonna have to do another request for hearing.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Thank you for We just have you for that wisdom. Let's say 505.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yeah. I don't I don't want my staff to have to do extra one's

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    only one so far.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And have to go find signatures.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. No. I don't want that to

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    be fine?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Do you wanna make it 505? The 5 01 just has one night.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    505 is fine.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Same room. Same room.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Same room. 329 here with all the same beautiful faces. Okay. Okay.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Next step is HB2310, which makes an emergence oh, you know what? This one is still being worked on.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes. You gotta give me AC 1.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Had released for the original, but now it's being worked on. So we're not ready for that one. But let's just

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    So we're going to roll it over. Yeah.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Same to the same one. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    So for Senate, we have myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as cochair. Senator McKelvey's member manager in the house is

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Martin, Keohokovid Beloy as cochairs, Olson Alpost as members.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Just making an emergency appropriation to DHS, and we're gonna roll it on to what time?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Same thing. 05:05. This whole agenda.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Three two nine. No. Not the whole agenda. We have released some time.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. Good.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    2089. SP2089SP1HT2. This is regarding prospective payment system. I'll present myself as chair Senator Kanawha's cochair member, Senator McKelvey.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And on the house side, we have myself and chairs and then members of open

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Can we roll this one over since I don't have one release of 505? Okay. Next one, we do have. Oh, but we decide we're gonna defer SB 2557. Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We suggest reporting requirements to the 2803, which we're moving. Yes. Okay. So we're deferring it indefinitely. Right?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Wait a second. Oh, we need more for SB3224.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Is that when do

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    we have approval? I have approval. Do you have approval?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Wait. Wait. I'm on the wrong one. Let me see.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Can we get some

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    I do. I have approval.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    I'll make your balance.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. She's fine. Maybe we need a short

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    A recess?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Short recess while I go local my Recess.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Lisa. Okay. Reconvening....

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    It's you.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Sorry. Calling on SB 3324 s d one h d one relating to MedQuest. This bill, basically, Increase. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Increases. Appropriate money to DHS to increase funding for certain Medicaid home and community based services, including residential services offered in community care foster family homes and expanded adult residential care homes. And but it requires federal matching funds. For the Senate, it's myself as chair, Senator Moriwaki as cochair, and Senator Favela as member of manager.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, it's myself, representative Kaye, representative Kaye and Cochairs and Alton Zizman.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And are you ready to

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We are. I'm just gonna briefly say what the changes were. It just had blanked out appropriations. We put in 1,700,000 and an effective date 07/01/2026, and it also added in that the requires the department to obtain matching federal funds and to pursue additional funding sources as a condition of expending appropriate funds. That's what you said on it.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. May we are we ready to vote? We are ready. Okay. Voting SB 3324 SB 1 h d one c d one. [Roll Call]

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We are adjorned. Thank you very much.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Okay.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thank you. Okay. Okay. After that. The other ones I'm just gonna put the bold sheets in the conference folder.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay? Okay. I'm okay with you.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We are reconvening our conference committee meeting Friday, 05/01/2026, 2PM in 04/23/2029. And the first bill up on our agenda is HB 1972 relating to taxation. This is the family caregiver tax credit. On behalf of the house, we have myself, Rex Yligan, and Keohokalole as co chairs and Hartsfield and Garcia as members.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thank you. I have to send myself as chair, co chair, Senator Rory Waukee, manager Fevella.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We do not have release on this bill.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. And we don't have either.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Do also. Okay. Can we roll this to 05:15? Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Why not?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    K. Just in case we get Exactly.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. To the end. Right?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Five one five. Right here in this conference room.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Five one five. Senator. Wait. What? You

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    have 05:15.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Oh, I get 05:15 on my chair on already.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. Okay. What what time would be appropriate? 05:20?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    05:20 work? Oh, yeah.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    But I don't know. Okay.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    . Okay. Next next next one is yours, and we can vote on it. So please

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Sounds good. Let's go ahead and make this official and formal. Senate bill 3025, Senate draft two, house draft three relating to medical debt. This is office of wellness and resiliency, a medical debt acquisition and forgiveness program. We can report an appropriation of the applicant to Senate myself as chair, co chair, Senator Lee, and manager, Pavela.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have myself, Kim ... with Eloy, Matthew, Hartzell as co chairs, and Garcia as manager, and we have quorum.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. On this one, to recap the season one, we went ahead and corrected the difference in the language as far as the private match goes. And the I'm gonna read out the footer number of the conference dress to make sure we have the same one. It is 2026Dash2507SBSierraBravo3025CharlieDelta 1 0 MikeAlphaDotDocX.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And then the other changes made were just That's not that. No. I I don't have any voting

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    right now somewhere. So Okay. But

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I know the numbers out.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And, also, this is a $500,000 in a funds appropriation with respect to date '27.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    K. Great. And this this is for the office of wellness and resilience to develop government administered and medical debt acquisition of the business program.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Ready to go?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    This happened to him today. He talked

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    to him before he even didn't have for him anymore. So then why we gotta stop them. Yeah. We gotta stop them because we lost nearly lost the bill, like, ten years ago. Very same.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    So yeah. What time did we do this at? It was two minutes. Congratulations.

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Thank you, sir.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    There's all this math involved now. Hang on, man.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Oh, okay. got backfill this. Awesome. Thank you so much. Alright. Let me give it to the proud author a congratulation. Okay. That's a take a picture. Okay. When we're done with the last one.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Give me a window.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We're just gonna voice that's snapping pics.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    So next up, we have HB1546 relating to health insurance. This one on behalf of the house, we have myself, Mariyoshi, Hartsfield as co chairs, firstly as a member.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    K. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, co chair Wakai, and manager Waugh.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And for this one, we have a lot of moving pieces, and I would propose rolling this to 05:20 today.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    That would be wonderful. So we can wrap the, other pieces up and see where they fall.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. With that, we are adjourned.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Hello. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the reconvene of the conference committee's house and Senate, Friday, 05/01/2026, 02:30pm. Conference from three two nine. One item on the agenda, SB 3245.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Senate draft one, house draft one relating to the SNAP program. This will give minimum certification periods for our elderly during the application report and a report back to the legislature, behalf of the Senate republic's chair, chair Kanuha, and manager Fevella.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have myself, representative Hartsfield, co chairs, Alton Garcia and senators.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. On this one, I do believe we have an agreement on a CD 1, and we also have release from waiting rooms.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We have a green light with release on its way from finance. Perhaps you would like to describe any changes made.

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    To miss Bill while we stop for time.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Bill? Yeah. I'll install for time. Good.

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Yes. Good. Good. Good. Date?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    An effective date?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah. It's pretty good. Effective date. Yeah.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    You can give it a date of 07/01/2028 to become effective.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Correct. Okay. We'll need that in the later period. Also, I wanna read out that we have released from the money committees, and the release is for let's see. There's no money there, but it's just a general release due to the fiscal impact.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And I'd like to read the barcode out just to make sure we're looking for the same one. And it is 2026Dash2506SierraBravo3245CharlieDelta1SierraMikeAlpha.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    That bad? Yes. Okay. So I had just asked if we can go ahead and vote. Should we take a brief we'll take a brief recess for a minute? Recess.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    SD2HD2. We link to the Office of Wellness and Resilience. Oh, and I have my card. Of course.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    This is regarding. Okay. The first Office of Wellness and Resilience in consultation with DHS to develop comprehensive plan by 06/30/2027 for the establishment of a cap co pilot program to support families and children in need. Because the office submit preliminary and final reports to the legislature on the plan and identify and administering agencies or agencies for the pilot program. So this is the second part of the Malama Ohana loans, Malama and Malama Ohana program request that we didn't fund last session, that we're finally funding.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay? So this is a good bill. Ok. For the Senate, it is myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as cochair, Senator Fevella as member manager.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And then in the house, we have myself and Representative Hartsfield as co-chairs and Alcos as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Are we ready to vote?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    No. We we are asking about whether we can get because there's no money in this bill. Is that correct? There's no appropriation. We're asking if we could get a release that is not a hard paper copy.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And we just texted. So.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    You wanna recess this one until?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yeah. So let's yeah. Let's roll let's roll this. We did not get this.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We will just recess.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. Okay. Do we have to gavel for that? And then we'll go back into either one. Okay.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Recess. Okay. And then we'll reconvene because we can vote. Yeah.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We're gonna go ahead.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. Tell me when. Okay. So we are reconvening the 02:30 agenda. Oops.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yes. That's yours. I'm Senator. SB 3245.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. We read out the description. We read out the the fiscal release and the barcode. So may I take the vote in behalf of the house?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yes, please. Yes, please.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate myself as chair, I go aye. Senator Kanuha. Aye. Senator Fevella is excuse me. I have a middle.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yay. Yay. Yay. '39. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    So there is a 4:30 calendar.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yeah. That we have both we are able to put on as well.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So why don't we have

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yep. We can do that. We have the we both texted simultaneously ask me about SD 2861 if we could do it without a hard copy since there's no money.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Oh. 2866. Oh, yeah. That's right. Because I don't have it's not a joint release. We have it's not a joint release.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    You send it to?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Snap. I sure do. Because remember, you have an hour.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. So we are done from that one. And

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Oh, now you have to count down as soon as you would say adjourned. Okay.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    To go to the 02:40 agenda with Senator Chang.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We need Moriwaki.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We need Chang San Buenaventura. But you need and you have a majority. You're good.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    But she's a wham?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    She's a wham.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    That's what I said. That's why you need Moriwaki. Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I said she's on her way.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So we can recess all of them. Okay.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    So we we have now we have a text release for the other one.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So let's go call that we call that back in.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We call we're calling SB 2861 SD 162. We've read the relating to Office of Wellness and Resilience for myself as Chair, Senator Kanu as Co Chair, Senator Fevella as Member Manager, and we have released, and we've already previously described the description of the bill. Are you ready to vote?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yes. We are. Thank you.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    So right back, there's a second one. It is 242.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    You're doing that one.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Stanley Chang

    Legislator

    Good afternoon and welcome to the 02:40PM reconvene on the conference committee on SB 28668. Senate Conferuis, our chair Chang, co chair Sam Buenaventura.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have myself and representative Chris Field as co chairs and Olson Garcia as members.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Would you mind just taking a minute to describe the bill?

  • Stanley Chang

    Legislator

    correct. So originally, the bill repealed the sunset date for the state run supplement program for Kupuna and appropriated funds to HPHA for the state run supplement program for Kupuna for physicians to support the program. The CD one removes the funding request and it also changes the effective date from 07/01/3000 to 07/01/2026.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. Fantastic. So should we take a brief recess while we wait to have Quorum for voting?

  • Stanley Chang

    Legislator

    Senate bill 2866, the recommendation of the house and staff managers to pass with amendments. Chair Chang, aye. Co chair San Buenaventura. Aye. Co chair Moriwaki. Aye. Can I take a vote for the house? Co chair Martin. Aye. Co chair Crossfield.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    We're convening our joint house and Senate Conference Committee hearing for Friday, May 1. We are on our four sorry. Two 41 agenda here in Conference Room 329. The only item on the agenda is HB 2606 hd two sd one within the off-site construction.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house we have myself and representatives Hashim and Miyake as co chairs and representative Pury as manager.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, co chair, and.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    We have agreement. We are still waiting on FIN release.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We do have WAM release. So it's half a week. We just need to get the other half.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    So that's it. If it's like you're able with you, Sandra Buscadaga, it sounds like your conference Room is available. Yes.

  • Stanley Chang

    Legislator

    So if we can roll this over

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    to 04:30 in our Conference Room 016 for today. Yes. Okay. We'll see you in two hours.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Very much.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. We're convening the conference committee on our, agenda at 02:42PM here in Conference Room 329 on SB 3028. It's a public conveyance with the Senate's myself, senators Wakai, and Del Toro.

  • Luke Evslin

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have myself and representative Prodi co chairs and representative Murillo.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. The conversation move along, recognize the need agreement from our colleagues. So can we move this to 5PM in Room 016?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And that's it.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Hello, everybody. Welcome to the 03:15 Reconvene House and Senate in Room 329. One measure on the agenda, agenda, Senate Bill 3199, Senate draft one, house draft one relating to mental health. This is what involves JABS in mental health, emerging therapies with the task force and reports.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I have the Senate myself chair, cochair Senator Mori Waki, manager Rubella. The others are excused.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. On this measure, for the house, we have myself and representative as cochairs and as our very steady and reliable manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. On this one here, we sent you just sent you literally a CD one, which I believe reflects all of the issues that we've been tracking and trying to resolve. We'd like to if you'd like to go ahead and review it and if it looks good Yeah. I'm a director. Yeah.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah. We're doing good. So I gotta be I I think we've made some really good work on this one. But given that, order to ensure that everybody's good, why don't we roll this to 05:35 this afternoon?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Here in this room?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    In this room. Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. This concludes the hearing.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Okay. Very well.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. Welcome to this conference committee. It's Friday, May 1, 03:20PM in Conference Room 329. Considering two bills, first up is house bill 184 relating to long care long term care financing. On the house side, we have myself and representative Keokapu Lillo and representatives Chun and Alcosa's managers.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    For the Senate myself as chair, Senator Moriwaki as cochair, and Senator Favella as member manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Senator, on this venture, I believe we have agreement and release from both our money chair. Is that correct? I mean, money committees.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I see. Okay. So we are prepared Yeah. This is you.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    This is we are prepared to vote, but let me first describe the bill. HB 184 provides resources to the executive office on aging to work with the to engage stakeholders and and other interested organizations in developing a proposal for a detailed actual actuarial study and proposal for a long term care financing proposal for the legislature to consider and provides $100,000 to do so. With that, are we prepared to vote?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes. Basically, it's the a comprehensive data driven evaluation of feasible financing strategies for long term.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yeah. Like what I said.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    On the house side, myself, voting aye. [Roll Call

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We have a bill.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And I'd like to thank Senator Moriwaki for helping us get this voucher.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you to the chair for the social policy.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. And we have the next one.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    If I can move on to the next bill, which is House bill 1854 relating to community behavioral health clinics. For the House, we have myself and representative Keo Capodilo as co chairs and representative Bakos as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    For the Senate, myself as chair. Senator Kanu has co chair, Senator Fevella as member manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    On this measure, I believe we have clearance from our finance and plan committee. Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We have a joint release.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We have a joint release signed, and we can vote. Yes. If I could describe the bill, it it establishes a in the Department of Health, a community behavioral health clinics certifying office under the authority of an executive director to certify community behavioral health clinics, those that exist now and those that'll come online in the future and opens the opportunity for funding under Medicaid.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    That's correct.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And it provides $300,000 to establish this new office. That's correct. So with that, I think we can vote. [Roll Call] Do we have another bill? Alright. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Good afternoon, everyone. It's Friday, May 1, the 03:45 or so PM in Room 329 at the state capitol Conference committee considering one measure before us, HB 1969 relating to colorectal cancer. On the house side, we have myself, representative Martin and Grandinetti, and Keohokapu Villainoy as co chairs, and representative Alcos' manager. And on behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Senator Wakai co chair, and Senator Sam Buenaventura on that. On this measure, I believe we have clearance from our relative money committee.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I don't have the magic paper, but I got the magic message that we

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I know the magic Senator that has the magic

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Oh, no. I found the magic paper. Alright.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Before we vote, Senator, if I may describe the bill, it's HB 1969, provides for colorectal screening and follow-up tests for uninsured residents. It provides 1,800,000 in one position to the State Department of Human Services to carry this out, a measure that will save lives. With that, shall we proceed with the vote? Let's. Outside myself voting aye.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Are we are we gonna pass this one? Yes.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    You're ready to

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I see. I'm sorry. I don't know.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yeah. You can do that.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Welcome back. It's 03:45pm here in Room 329 of the state capital, Friday, May 1, three conference committee on several bills. First up, House Bill 1973 relating to Kupuna Aloha pilot program on behalf of the House, myself, representative Martin, and Keo Kapuliloy as co chairs, and representative Alcos as manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Thank you. I'm happy to send it myself as chair, co chair Senator Moriwaki, and manager Prabello.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Senator, on this bill, I believe, we have, released from our money committees. And we do too. Okay. So we are prepared to oh, I believe. Just to describe this measure Please.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    HB 1973 provides funding for a pilot program called the Kupuna Aloha Pilot Program, which provides, in home health care and support services to frail elderly who do not otherwise qualify for government assistance. It provides $2,000,000, and that amount will serve roughly 2,000 persons during the course of the pilot program. So anything you wanna add? No. No.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Hang on.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I believe what barcode we get, but I'm good to go. Okay.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    On the outside, myself, voting is aye. [Roll Call]

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I'm happy because I'm alive. Okay. And I'm looking at the file.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yeah. But you're not a frail elderly person.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I'm knocking on that door. That's why I'm using the exactly it's the .. faster. I know.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We're there. I know.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    ...

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We're in

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Next up, House bill 1974, providing proposing a, state plan on hearing loss for the House, myself and representative Olds and Keohokalole as co chairs and representative Alcos as manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, co chair Senator Moriwaki, manager Fevella.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    On this measure, Senator, I believe we have FIN and WAM Clearance

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yes. We do.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. So if I may describe the bill, it provides funding to the state office of planning and development and provides $100,000 for the off for SHIPTA to provide a state plan on hearing loss, which is a severe problem that affects our elderly and even middle aged and other people. So for that, I believe you're prepared to vote. Yep. 1974.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    [Roll call]

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Boom. Yay. We have another new one. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    No more copies.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Next up, we have house bill 1970 yes. 1976, providing for Alzheimer's training for first responders. And on this measure, myself and representative Baladi and Keokapo Lilloi as co chairs and representative Garcia as managers.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Chair, we need you. Your WAm designated.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I have no idea. Whatever it is. Oh, yeah. You're let's see. Training. Dementia training.

  • Daisy Hartsfield

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Oh, if you wanna we'll be

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    going to the WAM release something. Okay. Yeah.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We don't have to have the official results.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    You wanna introduce your setup? Yeah.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Sorry about that, everybody. Okay. I have set myself as chair, co chairs, and that's up. Nope. Okay. I thought we may have been released, but we do not.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. We have fin committee released. And this is just fin. So we'll wait

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Can we roll it over? To

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    05:30? Thirty.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah. Let's go 05:30. Yeah. We'll try a possibility. Right?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    That's a beehive.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Exactly. So okay. 05:30 work?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    05:30 Hearing.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah. Why?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Shay. Shay. You good? Just come back with

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    my Stay away. Come back with my stuff.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Oh, the next one and the next two are Senate measures.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Sounds good. I'm sorry. Give me one second. The next one up is Senate Bill 2934. It's Senate draft one, house draft one relating to ambulances. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, co chairs, Hashimoto, and Fevella. There he is.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    For the house, myself and representative Kyokafu Liloy as co chairs and representative Alcos as manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. On this one here, I do believe we have a CD one that we have released. And, basically, on the CD one, we went ahead and I wanna let's see. We have released for 1,750,000 in a funds for the purchase of an ambulance and for technicians and others for the Central Maui region, and it takes effect on 07/01/2026. And the barcode is 20262449SierraBravo2934CharlieDelta1SierraMikeAlpha1.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I trust you on the barcode, but we have everything else aligned. So

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Good. Well, make sure we're good. Okay. May I take the vote?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Absolutely. Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    It's been a real long day. I'll put the date in afterward. And these glasses are foggy. They don't have the right strength. So I'm gonna just kinda work.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Well, just stay with us, Senator.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I'm gonna stay right here.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    That's why we need all these Kupuna bills. Exactly. Okay. I can't

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Got it. Okay. Hold on one second.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And finally, we have Senate Bill 3205 House Draft 1, relating to Air Medical Service.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I'm sorry- Senate Bill 3203.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I'm sorry. Three two two. I apologize. These glasses are really bad. Senate bill 3203

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Hearing on hearing loss.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    House draft what? House draft 1, relating to Air Medical Services. This makes conforming amendments to our medical services law in anticipation of future federal funds. In behalf of the Senate, myself chair; co-chair Senator Kanuha, manager; Fevella.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    For the house, myself and Representative Keohokapu-Lee Loy as co chairs, Representative Alcos as manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. I believe we have an agreement on the CD1 on this measure, and we do have release on this. And the release, there is no fiscal impact, but we do have release in the ratings committee from the bill on this. Would you like to describe the bill?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay, sorry. My eyes are really bad here. This measure here basically makes conforming amendments to our m- our medical services law that allows us to receive future funds, including remittance of fees pursuant to set in sections.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    This establishes a statewide air medical services program within the Department of Health, Emergency Medical Services, and injury medical services, establishes the positions of an air medical director, an air medical program manager, an air medical coordinator, specifies the annual licensure and accreditation fees are to be deposited into the EMS fund and for cost of the program.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    That sound good?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Alright. We'll leave her for further.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Alright. Okay. Ready to vote?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    May I take the vote from the house?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Chair Takayama?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Chair Lee-Loy?

  • Susan Lokelani Keohokapu-Lee Loy

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay, Member Alcos?

  • David Alcos

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay, I'll vote yes, Senator Kanuha?

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Senator Fevella is excused. And we got another one. Thank you. That takes care of us.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Time is Three.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We're adjourned.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Aloha, everybody. Welcome back to the reconvene between the House and the Senate on two bills, 03:50PM on Friday, 05/01/2026, 329. First, update of Senate Bill 2268 Senate Draft 2 House Draft 1, relating to Equity. This is the double changing table bill and public accommodations. On behalf of the senate, myself as chair, Co-chair San Buenaventura, Keohokalole, and Kanuha. Manager Awa.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    For the house, we have myself, Rep. Lee as co chairs, Pierick as manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. On this one, I do believe we have an agreement. We have a release on this because it is not a actual appropriation, just a fiscal impact. And I'll read out the description of the CD 1.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    This requires all places of public accommodation and public entity construction projects planned and designed after 07/31/2027 to provide at least one universal changing accommodation within the building and the public restroom with certain exemption. This will also make conforming amendments to sections 49-6, 49-7.5, 49-8, HRS to prevent conflicts among the provisions.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Confirm the footer, 2026-2534 SB 2268 CD1 SMA-1.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Roger.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Great.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Shall we vote?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. May I take the vote on behalf of the house?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Chair Sayama?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Chair Lee?

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yes. And Manager Pierick is excused. I will vote yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Senator San Buenaventura?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Senator Keohokalole is excused. Senator Kanuha?

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Alright. We have a bill. Thank you.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And Senator Awa?

  • Brenton Awa

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Thank you for that, my friend. The time also is four

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    four 0 four.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Oh, I have a full card.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. I'm gonna hurry up real fast. Okay. We can move on to the next moment. First, let me hand you this.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Got it.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Thank you so much, sir. Thank you. Okay. Next one up is Senate bill 2543, Senate Draft 2 House draft 2, relating State Construction Project. This project this will here will create the office of construction manager, pilot program, design review, special fund with positions funded in certain county planning agencies.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-chair Wakai, and Elefante, Manager Awa.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    On the house, we have myself, Hashem, and Lee as cochairs, Mister Matsumoto as manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. On this one, we have approved release from this measure for $3,943,000 dollars in a funds. And the description of this is that establishes a five year Office State Construction Manager Pilot Program to provide guidance and recommendations design review of certain state construction projects that are administered by the Department of Accounting General Services or Department of Education located in any county with a population of less than 500,000.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Requires the office to assign employees to the Department of Public Works of each applicable county to review and approve permanent applications. Under the pilot program, we will establish a design review special fund and appropriate funds for the pilot program with the necessary positions.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    To clarify for us, we do have fin release. However, the appropriation amount is a little different. We were released for $3,034,000.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Well, given that, we may have to roll this to reconcile the two figures because our release numbers seem to be different.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    So

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Do we have a time?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah. Do we have the time? We're getting down to the wire on this one. Do you wanna try let's see.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Recessing. Go ahead.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Just go ask.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Recess.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Alright. Welcome back, everybody. There was a difference of numbers. And so in order to keep this important measure, to finalize it and not lose it because of the deadline, we're going to accept the house number for now of the figure. Would you like to read it out again?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yes. Six full time, 6 FTEs, and the appropriation amount is $3,034,000, eight funds.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Sounds good. With that, we can we go ahead and vote?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. May I take the vote on behalf of the house?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Chair Sayama?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Chair Hashem? Chair Lee?

  • Mike Lee

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Manager Matsumoto?

  • Lauren Matsumoto

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I vote aye. Senator Wakai?

  • Glenn Wakai

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Senator Elefante?

  • Brenton Awa

    Legislator

    Senator Awa?

  • Brenton Awa

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We have a bill.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    And you saved a couple bucks.

  • Lauren Matsumoto

    Legislator

    Every year, I feel like there's always something fun and interesting in real life.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Oh, there you are.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We're done.

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Lauren Matsumoto

    Legislator

    Are you headed to your office?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    You saved you.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Who's this for?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Are we doing the next one?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Oh, hey. Sorry. Yeah. Let's go. Sorry.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    This is like chaos. Right?

  • Lauren Matsumoto

    Legislator

    I feel like.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Let's stop. Okay. Let's go. Guys.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Aloha everybody. Welcome back to reconvening of the conference committees on one measure. Senate bill 2601, Senate draft two, House draft one relating to procurement. Behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, cochair Mori Waki and Rhodes and manager Favella.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the house, we have cochairs, representatives, Tarnas and Kush and managers, representatives, Poipoi and Shimizu.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I believe we have an agreement on a CD and I can read the description out if you'd like real fast. Yeah.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Please please go ahead.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Oh my god. It's so long.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    I don't have but I do not have finance release.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Oh, you do not have finance release. We Well, you have ways and means release. We don't have finance release, so it appears that you guys don't wanna move forward with the bill. Right?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We appreciate that. Well, given that, unfortunately we'll have to let this go once this message is deferred indefinitely. This concludes.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    I've tried my best.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you, chair. I'm sorry about that.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. It's about 04:30PM here in Room 329, Friday, May 1. Meeting in Conference Committee on a number of bills. First up, we have House Bill 1898, relating to Preventive Services Coverage. For the house, myself, and Representative Matayoshi and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as Co-chairs and Representative Garcia as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    For the Senate, myself as chair, Senators McKelvey, Rhoads and Moriwaki as Co-chairs, Senator Fevella as Member Manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Senator, on this measure, we have released from the finance committee.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I do not have WAM release nor do I have a WAM designee. May we roll it to the end of the calendar in case something happens?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    This calendar. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Of this calendar.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Next next up, we have HB 1591, relating to a Preceptor Tax Credit. And for the house, myself and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as Co-chairs and Representative Alcos as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    For Senate, I'm presenting to myself as chair, Senator Lamosao and Kanuha as co chairs.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    This one, I also don't have WAM release.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    There we go. This also to the back of the calendar.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. I'll go to note that we do have finance release.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We do.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes. We do.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We do.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. And the calendar as well.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yeah. This one, I didn't think.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Good.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Next one, we have HB 1541, Creating Certain Exempt Positions for the Department of Health at the State Hospital and the Department of Disability's division. Myself and Representative Sayama and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as Co-chairs and Representative Alcos as Manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as chair, Senators Elefante and Kanuma as Co-chairs. And this one, we do have WAM Release.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So we can vote. But first of all, let me describe the bill. 15 HB 1541 addresses staffing shortages at the Health Department, particularly at the Developmental Disabilities Division and the State Hospital. So it provides for the transition from civil service positions to exempt positions for-

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Vice versa. From exempt to civil service.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And after several years reverting those positions back to civil service. So we're prepared to. And I'm sorry. Let me get myself in order.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. For the house, myself including, aye. Representative Sayama?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Representative, Keohokapu-Lee Loy?

  • Jackson Sayama

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Susan Lokelani Keohokapu-Lee Loy

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Representative Alcos?

  • David Alcos

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And for the Senate? Senator San Buenaventura?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Senator Elefante?

  • Brandon Elefante

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Senator Kanuha?

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay, we have a bill.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Any for exam positions?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    No. Getting more people into the same hospital. That's the most important. HB 25.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    No.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    HB 25.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    That was the last one.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We just did HB 1541.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I got HB 2505. Did we pass that already? Relay to assist the that's my calendar. Okay. I mean, I don't mind going in with this.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    On 25.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    That's what I thought.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yesterday.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So SB 1432 SB2 HD2, Relating to change to responsibilities or the Department of Health. This is Kalapapa.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Concerning patients, the County of Kalapapa and the Kalapapa settlement. Okay. For the Senate, myself as chair, Senators Wakai, DeCoite, and Rhoads as co chairs.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And this one for the house, myself and Representatives Hashem and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as co chairs and Representative Garcia as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I do not have my WAM designee.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Oh you're

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So okay. On this one, I believe we have release from the finance committee.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. I do not have my WAM designee.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. So

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I cannot move this. So can we roll this over?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Sure. End of calendar as well.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    End of calendar.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thank you. I think my WAM designee is either the DeCoit or Wakai. But I need to send the notes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Next one is SB 3132, because I need majority of chairs. SB 3132, relating to Syndromic Surveillance. For the Senate, it's myself as chair, Senators Rhoads and Kanuha as Co-chairs.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    This one for the house, myself and representative Grandinetti and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as Co-chairs and Representative Alcos as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So this bill, we do have WAM release, and we do have our WAM designee. And are we ready to vote? In which case, I will describe the bill.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes. And we because we also have finance committee regs.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thank you. Can you have your Fin designee?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Sitting right here.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Terrific. Requires oh, that helps on your he's the vice chair. This basically requires hospitals with emergency departments are licensed in the state to submit syndromic surveillance data to the Department of Health. These are basically symptoms surveillance.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Authorized the Department of Health to establish the State Syndromic Surveillance System. So, basically, hopefully we'll be able to track.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Public health threats.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Public Health threats. Like measles and the like.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Good bill.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    It's a very good bill.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Are you ready to vote then?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    For SB 3132, I vote aye. Senator Rhoads?

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Senator Kanuha?

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Senator Fevella, it's excused. May I take the vote for the house?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Senate- I mean, Representative Takayama?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Representative Grandinetti?

  • Tina Grandinetti

    Legislator

    Aye,

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Representative Keohokapu-Lee Loy?

  • Susan Lokelani Keohokapu-Lee Loy

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Representative Alcos?

  • David Alcos

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We have a bill.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    The next one is SB 3137, Relating to Department of Health Authority to Regulate own Drugs and Cosmetics. For the Senate, myself as chair, Senators McKelvey and Kanuha as co chairs.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    For the House, myself, and Representative Matayoshi and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as Co-chairs and Representative Alcos as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. We also have WAM release, and I have my WAM designee. And we're ready.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We have Fin release, and we have my a very capable Fin.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Terrific. So we're ready to post basically the bill. What is the bill? Because hospital licensing.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    No. This is the-

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Permits hospitals to demonstrate compliance with all licensing and inspection.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Regulation.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I'm reading the wrong bill. Sorry.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Drugs.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Still doing

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    This is 3137. Excuse me. I got it, and I do have WAM release, although I was meeting the wrong bill. This basically authorizes removes duplicative food. This is housekeeping.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Food relay, statutory material in the line. All food relay provisions under Chapter 328t, with federal provisions and the environmental health special we appeals the sanitation environmental health special fund and transfers any unexpected, unexpended, and or unencumbered balances to a newly established food safety and environmental health safe special fund. Okay. So we're ready to vote?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So I will, aye. Senator McKelvey is excused.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Senator Kanuha?

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    May I take the vote for the-

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    House. Chair Takayama?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Chair Matayoshi?

  • Scot Matayoshi

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Co-chair Keohokapu-Lee Loy?

  • Susan Lokelani Keohokapu-Lee Loy

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Representative Alcos?

  • David Alcos

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And we have a bill. Okay. We're leaving-

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    I have to go real quick.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. You're gonna be here. Right?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And we need the vote.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Next one is 2271.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And that one licensing one?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yeah. It's a licensing one. And my WAM designee just walked out. Can we find is he- is he he's coming back?

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I said he's coming back.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    He's coming back.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So why don't we go check the check on the next one?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    End of calendar for this panel?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    For the next, until he comes back. 2272 requires him also. Okay. And SB 3302, do we need that requires him also.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And SB 3045, relaying to Health Insurance.

  • Tina Grandinetti

    Legislator

    This is the new cost monitor?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    He's still here.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I mean, I see.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    So can we do a recess until he shows back up?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Recess until he shows

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Until Senator Kanuha returns.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Calling Senate Bill 2271 SD1 HD2, relating to Hospital Licensing, we've described this earlier. For Senate, myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as Co-chair. Senator Fevella as Member Manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And for this one, for the house, myself and Matayoshi and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as Co-chairs and Representative Alcos as managers.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Are we ready to go?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Did we describe it to him?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes. We did. But you want me to describe this is hospital licensing.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yep.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And it's basically- it basically permits cost to demonstrate compliance with all licensing inspections required by the state to accreditation or certification by any accreditation or certification organization approved by Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. I thought they did that already, but it's currently not.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Ready?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. I vote aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Senator Kanuha?

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Senator Padilla is excused. May I take the vote for the house?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Chairman Takayama?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Co-chair Matayoshi is excused. Co-chair Keohokapu-Lee Loy?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Susan Lokelani Keohokapu-Lee Loy

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Representative Alcos?

  • David Alcos

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We have a bill. Okay. Can we sign?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    3167.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Next one is 2272, relating to Home Health Licenses. For the Senate, it's myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as cochair.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    For the house myself.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Excuse me. Senator Fevella as member manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    For the House, myself and Representative Matayoshi and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as cochairs, and Alcos as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So this is relaying to Home Health Licensing. This basically, optimize department of health to accept accreditation from an accreditation organization or a certification organization approved by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services as demonstrated that a licensed home health agency is in compliance of all licensing inspections required by the state.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I believe we have a release from both finance and WAM, and I'll prepare to vote.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Terrific. And we also have our WAM designee, so we are ready to vote. So for SB 2272 SD1 HD2 CD1 I vote aye. Senator Kanuha?

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Senator Fevella is excused. May I take the vote for the house?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Aye. Oh, sorry.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Co-chair Matayoshi is excused. Co chair Keohokapu-Lee Loy?

  • Susan Lokelani Keohokapu-Lee Loy

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Representative Alcos?

  • David Alcos

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We have a bill. It is 448. Okay. So the next one is home is 3302SD one HD two relating to home health products. For the Senate, it's myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as cochair, Senator Pavella as member manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    For the house, myself and representative Granadetti and Keo Capolillo as cochairs and representative Garcia as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Are we okay. This bill requires the Department of Health to adopt rules for the regulation of farm kitchens producing homemade food products that are no more stringent than those for home kitchens producing homemade food products. Are we ready to vote?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We are ready to vote since we Harabedian and rather, released.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. I will, Aye. Senator Kanuha?

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Chair Grandinetti?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Senator Pavela's excuse may take the vote for the house. Okay. Chair Takayama?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Aye

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Aye. Co chair Keohokaleloy? Aye. And represent our seat. Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    K. We have a bill. Okay. We need to start. Okay. And So next next one is Go. Drew.

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    S P304. Relating to health insurance, Medicaid and IV coverage, diabetes equipment and supplies, continuous glucose monitors. Instead, we have myself as chairman, a soft co chair, and for them.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    For the house, myself and representative Martin and, Brandon Medi and as co chairs and representative Alcos as manager. I know. I know. Coaches.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Tell them we got

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Did you get the We have we have and release. Hold on. And wait. That's all we have

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    to describe.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. So I believe we can help. Did you need to describe it? Or Oh, yeah. We should.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Yes. I mean, it provides for requires health insurers and other health maintenance organizations in Hawaii to cover the cost of continuous glucose monitors and related supplies. And that's basically Thank you. I'll raise your vote. Yes.

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Okay. For myself, I vote aye. Senator Lausanne?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    And Senator Fevella is excused. May I take the vote for the house? Co chair Takayama?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Aye. Co chair Martin?

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Co chair Martin?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Co chair Grenadetti.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Aye.

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    And co chair Kimo Kapu Levi.

  • Sue Keohokapu-Lee Loy

    Person

    Aye.

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Rep Alcos. Alright. Jeremy, have a good one.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Alright.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay. So chair Takayama, for HB 1898 and HB 1591, We do not have LAN release for either one. What do you propose to do? Do you want to roll it over to five forty five?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. We're talking about HP

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    1898. And 1591 are the only two bills. Oh, we have What

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    what did you have?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    13. What happened to Wakai? Oh,

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    then I'm can you find can you find Wakai?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    But in the meantime, the the the first two So What time do you want to roll those over? 03:40. We need to And wait a second. We need one more person.

  • Daisy Hartsfield

    Legislator

    At 05:35.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And we left, but then we left and roads disappeared. No. You do. Because because you do that. Yeah.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I'm sure. Fifty five.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thank you. Okay. Rhodes and wants to have to help kick in. Even five feet. Okay. We we lost Rhodes when we started waiting for. What's the bill number?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Hello. SB1432. SB1432. But in the meantime, 1898 for HB1898, HB1591. Can what time do you wanna go to

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    the bill? Come back, if you if you will, to 05:38pm here in this room. That gives us a couple extra minutes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Oh, it ends at okay.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    It ends at six.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. One rule comes to an end. And we So Okay. 05:30 to announce

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    for House bill 1898 and House bill 1591 as well as SB 1432. We will reconvene here in Room 329 at 05:38PM.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Oh, but we still have fourteen thirty two, which we just got hold

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    up. Yeah.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I know. Yeah.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    No. I know. I know. I know.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I know. I know. I know.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Are we gonna Yeah.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    We're gonna

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    I know. I know. You're rolling back.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    55538.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. 538. Same room.

  • Daisy Hartsfield

    Legislator

    I got that. Okay.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. They mentioned. Reconvening a conference committee on HB 1853 relating to dementia. This is an interesting bill that on behalf of the house, we have myself and representative Martin and Keokaku Livoy as co chairs and representative Akos as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I take one sentence myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as co chair, and Senator Fobela as member manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Senator, on this bill, I think we ought to describe what it is a host bill. So if I can describe the circumstances, I know yesterday, we announced that we would suspend discussions on this and come back next year, and we misspoke. We meant to say next day.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And so we are here, and we've agreed to reopen discussions on this bill, which proposes a Hanai memory network to provide dementia treatment and counseling for both the patients suffering from dementia and their families, particularly for neighbor islands that's shortage of such services. We have release from finance committee for the amount of $3,000,000

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    For the original asking price.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    For the Senate, I believe we have WAM.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We have WAM release, and we have WAM designated.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    So I believe we are preferred to vote. Yes. K. For the house, myself, voting aye. Representative Martin?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Representative Keokapuiloy? Aye. Representative Vaukos? Yes. And for the Senate, if I may take the vote. Senator Sandeman Ventura. Aye. Senator Kanujo. Yes. Senator, Fevella, excuse. We have a bill. Yay. Interventional.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    So k. We let's adjourn. And I need to know from the house, do you folks It's an HP.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Uh-huh. Oh, I'm sorry. S t thirty one zero three s t two h t one percent point relating to energy assistance. This is the Hawaii version of LIHEAP, which we're hoping to at least revive on the state side for the state of Hawaii because it died in the federal. For the Senate, myself as chair, Sanders Michele, and Kanuha as co chairs.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    On behalf of the house, myself, rep Martin Marios Chamfruzzo as co chair, and Nanda Matsumoto.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So the Senate has WAM release, and we have WAM definitely. You don't have it in the house. It's not. What time do you want would you like to it's a very good bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Up to you. I don't know. I think Like,

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    forty five.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Let me check my schedule. I'll just have other stuff. And also the Fed schedule funding did not actually get cut. So did not get cut.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Oh, so are you saying we don't need it?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    No. No. No. It's still it's still a good bill. What How much is the when you score? How much I have two things. Did you say 05:45?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    You You want five 05:45?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I have two things at 05:45.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. What time do you want? We have I have 05:38 in the same room. So Okay. 05:45.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    That's our latest? 06:00?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Close. 06:00 close.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We need to we need to get done by.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    But what about before we have, like, a 05:20 together and then the earlier A

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    twenty five? Yeah. Yeah.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    05:20. 520. 5525.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    525 at this room. Yeah. Okay. 329. And thank you.

  • Daisy Hartsfield

    Legislator

    Okay. You're

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    welcome. Try it again. Okay. Thank you, folks. So whoever needs to be here, there's I have a whole bunch of, like, 05:30, 05:30, eight, and apparently five thirty five.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    We are adjourned

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    The one we linked to homelessness. Board of science, myself as chair, Senator Moriwaki as co chair, Senator McKelvey as member manager.

  • Daisy Hartsfield

    Legislator

    On the house side, we have myself and Hartfield as co chairs as officers

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    as managers. Okay. We're just working on wording. We have both WAM and, I believe, for the actual monies, And we hope to get the actual wording in the CD one by 05:45, so we're rolling it over until then.

  • Daisy Hartsfield

    Legislator

    Thank you very much.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Forty five.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We're reconvening the conference committee 05:05pm and then a little later. Alright.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We have Lumi Lauren.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    05/01/2026. Our first measure, HB 2208, learning to field security. We have on the outside, myself, coach as co chairs, Alden Akhos as managers.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And for the sense myself as chair, Senator Kanuha, co chairs under Favela as member manager.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And I have not had any information about being released for this or do you this is the front table. '22 twenty two zero eight. I do recall seeing something in the budget. 02/02/2008.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    K. I don't think we have one release anyway. Right? So why don't we just defer this to next year?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. We're gonna just have to defer it completely and just appreciate it's in the budget. Moving on to HB 2310. This it makes an emergency appropriation to the Department of Human Services. On behalf of the house, we have, myself, Kimo Papu as co chairs, open office as managers.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    It would have sent myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as co chair, Senator Mottelli as member manager.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And because we do have seen and ran the lease, let me take a moment to read what's in the bill. It provides an emergency appropriation to Department of Human Services to replace general fund appropriations redirected to provide emergency food assistance during the 2025 Federal Government shutdown for SNAP and the food bank. And appropriated is $14,248,126 for that with an effective date of 07/01/2026.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Also added to the bill is a supplement or premium contributions for the federally facilitated marketplace to make up for reductions in federal subsidies to the same with an emergency and appropriation to DHS in the sum of 16,500,000, also effective 07/01/2026. And the first, just to clarify, the first appropriation for the, food subsidies is for fiscal year 2526, whereas the second subsidy is for fiscal year 2627.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. And just to clarify, what it does is to stop the second portion is a 16,500,000 establishes the three year health coverage continuity pilot program.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    They actually they changed it on us. They took out that they clarified the language. They said they can't use an emergency appropriation for a pilot, So they just have to call it a program.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. So it's gonna be a health con coverage continuity program.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yes. Yes. Yes.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Within the Department of Human Service to individuals who qualify for federal advanced premium tax credits. And Okay. Yeah.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. May

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I ready to vote. May I take the vote?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Let me make sure I'm voting on it right. Bill, there we go. So HB 2310 h d one s d one c d one. So with amendments, on behalf of the house, I vote aye. Can you have can you talk to people?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Aye. Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Alcos?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Aye. May I please vote for the Senate?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Chair Samuels Ventura? Aye. Chair chair Kanuha?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And McKelvey is excused.

  • Dru Kanuha

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And we have a bill. And I'm gonna back send the canoe off because Thank you. Yes. Thank you.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Thank you for being here.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes. You're welcome.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I need the EA. So thank you.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    This is this is over $30,000,000, so we really needed to get it done.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Thank you. For your date and time. And

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    and then our last measure, you can go ahead. It's a second one.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. For SB 2089 relating to mental health, it's for the Senate's is myself as chair, Senator Kanuha as cochair, Senator McKelvey as member manager.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the house, we have myself, Maruyoshi, Keohokapuliloy as chairs, Olsen Kapuliloy as managers.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    K. With this, I I do not think we're gonna be able to get WAM or Finbalees in twenty five minutes. So let's defer this for next year.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Okay. And with that, we are adjourned.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Oh, wait a second. No? We have one more bill.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    On that agenda?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We are reconvening the conference committee meeting for HB 71972 relating to taxation. This is the family caregiver tax credit. It's something that we are all very, very committed to, but we do not have the lease at this late date. So we will leave this for next on behalf of the house representatives, Martin Iligon Kiel as chairs, Hartfield Garcia as managers.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Oh, okay. We're still running out of time. The Senate conferees are here since we're dispensing it.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    Yeah. Okay. So we we are we are deferring that now. Okay. That's fine.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    And then the the last bill on agenda is HB 1516 h 46 h which we are also going to defer because of this validation. Correct. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Calling on SB 3103 the 05/25 calendar for conference committee meetings for SB 3103, SD 2 hd one, relating to energy assistance for the center of service chair, Sanders McKelvey and Kanuha as co chairs for the house?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, myself, co chairs Martin Mariyoshi, and Frusa manager Matsumoto.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. It doesn't sound like we have an agreement of releases. So shall we defer this the next year, especially since you believe that the feds have not defunded by heat? And I thought they did. Okay. So we'll defer this next year. Correct?

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    I'm just I'm hesitant to if the amount we have released is the 1.55, I'm hesitant to give 1.5 that will be just used for the administration of the program, but we don't know that we'll be able to get an appropriation for the subsequent year.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yep. I agree. K. So or next year. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. And we are rejoining that calendar.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Welcome to the reconvening on House Senate Conference Committee meeting for 05:37 at three two nine. We are at the top of HB 2429 as well as SB 2259, HB 2546, SB 2907, HB 2583. Would it be possible if we roll all these over to Room 309? What time? 05:40.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. But I need Yeah. Yep. I need to hear. Okay.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Thank you. Okay. We are that will adjourn. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thirty two. Relent to changes to responsibilities, minor health concerns, patients, the county of Kalawak, and the Kalaupapa settlement. For the sense of myself as chair, Senator Wakai as co chair, Senator DeCoite as co chair, and Senator Rhodes as co chair.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. For the house, myself, representative Asham, and Kyokafu Liloy as co chairs, and representative Garcia as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. We're ready to vote.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We are.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And what the bill does is Transition over from Kalawao County and relieve a director from mayoral d d duties eventually when Kalawao County becomes part of Maui County.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And it takes effect two years after the death of the last patient at Kalawao. I believe we're prepared to vote.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yes, please. Senator. Okay. So voting on Sb 1432 SD two HD two CD one. Chair votes, aye.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. There are two other bills on the five thirty eight agenda.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yeah. You do not interrupt for both, Gregor. Yeah. That's what you just said. Yeah. Okay. What do you need? What's the get to the scale of. Reconvening

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    the 05:30. 08:38 agenda. We have two bills, HB 1898 relating to preventive services, coverage, myself and Mariosi and Keo Capolilo as co chairs and Athena Garcia as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. And for myself, it's the Senate, chair senators McKelvey, Rhodes, and Moriwaki, and co chair Senator Pavela as member manager.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We have finance release on this bill.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We do not have WAM release. I do not expect to have WAM release, and I do not have my do we have WAM release? Okay. We do not have WAM release, and I suggest you the furthest to next session.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. We'll come back next year.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    K. Thank you very much.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    House bill 1591, proposing a preceptor, tax credit for healthcare workers, myself and Okay. Keokapo Eloy as co chairs and representative Alphas as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. And for the half the Senate, it's myself as chair, Senator Isla Matzal, and Kadu as co chairs.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    On this measure, we do have finance release.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We do not have WAM release, and I do not have my WAM judging me. No WAM on this.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    No WAM. Senator. So may we roll this up? May we the furthest to next session.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We'll come back next year on both of those bills and adjourn on our five thirty eight agenda.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Calling this meeting to order, we have we're convening a con house Senate Conference Committee Meeting, and we have HB 1391 for our 5:37 agenda related to trade. We're gonna roll this over to 309 at 05:40. Good, Chair?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Yep. Good.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Good. Perfect. We are now adjourned.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    5:38, conference committee on HB 1970.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    On 1976 relating to our required training for first responders in handling dementia patients for the House, myself, Representative Belatti, and Keohokapu-Lee Loy as co-Chairs, and Representative Garcia as Manager.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I don't have an agenda. I'm sorry.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    For the Senate, we have Senator McKelvey as Chair, as well as Fukunaga and Moriwaki as co-Chairs.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. I think we worked on this, and I appreciate your work, but I don't believe we have WAM release. We may just let it go.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. We will do we will come back next year on that measure. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Thank you very much.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    And we'll you just reconvene the 05:35 for, SB 3199.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    We can just roll right into it if you want.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. K? Okay. We're rolling to can we do that?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Go ahead. Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I don't I'm sorry. I don't mind stepping up. We'll do that on agenda. So

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We'll roll into the next bill on our agenda, which is SB 3199 relating to mental health emergency emergency therapies task force, myself and, representative Keokafel Eloy as co chairs, and representative Alpos as manager. Okay. For the Senate, you have Senator McKelvey as chair, Senator Moriwaki as cochair, and Senator Favela as manager.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. On this one here, I believe we have an agreement. I believe we have released from the running committees.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And if I may just read the description of the c one, establishes a establishes a mental health emerging therapies task force with the University of Hawaii Manoa, John E Burns School of Medicine to assess the readiness of the state for integration, breaking therapies, expansion pathways, clinical research, development of policy recommendations for safe, ethical, culturally informed implementation of emerging therapy, requires reports of the legislature with the sunset on 06/30/2028. Aptly described.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Okay. Can I take the vote, please? Okay.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Cheers. Do you have release? You don't have the release?

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    We have FIN release. We don't have the ... release.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I didn't I didn't get any. Okay. And do you look at yours? There's nothing in here.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    I didn't have any.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    I've got a I got a thousand drafts in here, but no alright. Well, then, if that case, you wanna try the telephone? We're we're checking Can we check? We'll reset.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    What is another one compared to?

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    That's all we have.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    As long as that. Yeah.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Reset. Reset. Reset.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    We are reconvening on SB 2803, on the statewide office on homelessness and housing solutions. We are 5:45 in Conference Room 329. On behalf of the House, we have myself, Hartsfield as Chairs, and Olds, and Alcos as Members.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    And for the Senate, myself as Chair, send Senator Moriwaki as co-Chair, and Senator McKelvey as Member Manager.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    It breaks my heart, but we do not have been released on this bill. So we have defunded our homeless programs this year.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Well, we know they have the CIP and we have and they have the DHS program. Yeah.

  • Lisa Marten

    Legislator

    So we will defer this till next year. Okay. For that one.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Oh, actually, it's a Senate Yeah. That's fine.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    Senate bill 3199. We're looking being back. Very disappointed. I think we had a really good CD1. However, I don't have the official release from Ways and Means, nor my designee.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. It is particularly disappointing because I thought it had a great deal of merit, and we do have finance committee release on this. So, unfortunately, we'll have to come back next year.

  • Angus McKelvey

    Legislator

    I guess so. But this is a really solid bill. That's what it says.

  • Gregg Takayama

    Legislator

    Okay. Great

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Background]

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Good morning. It is now Good. It is now 11:00. May 2009, we are reconveneing on a number of bills. We will look at I think for all the bills we have, we're working on, conference drafts.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    So it's, SP259822921, SP2600, and SP2808. We will, scheduled to process. So you wanna take over from the house fields? Yes. So house fields are No.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    So we'll we'll we'll

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    So we reconvene those at 01:00.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Oh, okay. So we we we wanna take one of those or oh, I mean, we're gonna okay. No.

  • Della Au Belatti

    Legislator

    No. Wait till 01:00. No. No. We we can fill the bill, but just to clarify the audience, the bill's just announced, we'll roll it to 01:00 today in this room. Okay.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    So all of these bills will be rolled over to 1PM today in the same room. Okay.

  • Kyle Yamashita

    Legislator

    Same thing for us, I guess, for HP, it's 232

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    oh, I'm

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Yeah. Wait. We just wrote all the sentence.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    pretty good track on it.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Oh. Okay. Okay. I think on two, three, two, nine see, they can just work at 01:00. Nice meeting.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    And then next, HB2452SD1. This is our related to state bonds, this is our bond bill. Since we passed the budget yesterday, I know they're just finishing up talking the numbers and I'll just plug those numbers into the bill into the actual bill. So is that okay to default on this? Sure.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Great. So we're gonna be voting on HB 2452 SD one, recommendations to pass with the c v one with the updated numbers from the budget bill. On behalf of the house, chair, I vote aye. [Roll Call] Thank you. We have a bill

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Actually, we are ready on HB329. CB.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Oh, okay.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    And we have. you got a note?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    It's agreed. Thank you. I'm ready.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Okay. So this would be for HB2329, HD 1, SD 1. This is a CB related to conformity to the internal revenue code. Okay. Recognition is to pass as a CD 1. And on the outside, Chair votes aye.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Like, share? Or sorry. I'm so used to that.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Thank you. And Rep Gideon, aye. Thank you. May I take a vote for this time? Please.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    K. [Roll Call]

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Aye. Thank you very much. Okay.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    You are. 2 done.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay, sorry. So HB 2547 HD 1, SD 1 relating to corporate bonds. We one last minute clarifying adjustment, so we're gonna be sending you an additional conference draft on that if we could roll that to the same time at 1PM.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    And, also, similar for HB 2275 HD 1, SD 2 relating to funding adjustments for state programs, I think we're still waiting on the final numbers that are going to get plugged into the bill. If we can roll to 1 PM in this room. And that's it. That's all. We're adjourned.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. We're reconvening on a number of bills today. It's Friday, May 1. It is now 01:00. First on the agenda, the Senate bill 2598. We did give you conference drafts. How are we?

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    I think we're still reviewing on that and quarters. So if we do reconvene that-

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    I've got to see the member.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    All right, for sure.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    So on the Senate side, myself as Chair and Senators Hashimoto and Fevella. And on the House?

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Myself as Chair and then Rep. Takenouchi as manager.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    So we will roll this over till 03:30pm today, in the same room. Next up is Senate Bill 2921 relating to state funds, and this is a use of non general credit funds. Let me see. And giving them, I think it's the ability to move funds around administrative operations. On the Senate side, myself as chair and senators Hashimoto and Fevella, as members.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Members. Myself as chair and Rick Takenouchi and your DNS managers.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    We have a conference draft that we give to you. Are you ready with that?

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Do you have a Another one for 03:30.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. Okay. We'll roll this over as well. Great.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    K. The next is Senate bill 2600. This is related to the tax credit and I think this is the oh, sorry. 2600. Oh, this makes a deposit to the emergency and budget reserve fund On the Senate side, it is myself as chair, Senator Kaluja, and Senator Cabello members.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. On behalf of the house, myself as chair and representatives Keespell and Gideon as managers.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. We gave you a conference draft. We have released you.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Sorry. I'm still waiting for release on my we pulled this to three third okay.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    03:30 as well. Okay. Two 08:08. We are still waiting for our conference. Right?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Oh, I don't mean 2808. Senate bill 2808, myself as chair and Senator Hashimoto and Fevella as members.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    And on my house side, myself as chair, representives Carolina Giddey and its managers.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    And for this, we gave you a conference rep, but it's not the it's still in process. So let's roll this over to 02:30.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay, 3:30 here in this room. I'm moving on to House bills on the agenda now. First, we have HB 2547 HD 1, SD 1 relating to corporate bonds. Myself as Chair, Representatives Kitagawa and Reyes Oda as managers.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    And on House side, it's myself as Chair and Senators Kanuha and Fevella as members.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Yes. So this is the one where I think we just shortly got back and shared an updated conference draft with some other language. I think I'm still waiting on my final release. You as well?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    We have a release.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. I will follow-up with that, but can we move to 03:30 for now? Sure. We can share in this room. And then, final agenda, HB 2275 HD 1 SD two, relation to funding adjustments for state programs, myself as chair and representatives Keith Gowen, Gideon as manager.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Myself as chair and Senator Tashi Morton for the last time.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    I think for this one also, we're still waiting on the final release. If we could do it at 03:30 in the Zoom Room.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. This is we are here for the 03:15 reconvening of a number of bills. We have, first up, Senate Bill 2598, and this is relating to non general funds. Countries on the Senate side is myself as chair and senators Hashimoto and Fevella is excused. He's on the outside.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    We have myself as chair, and we have Reps Takamuchi and Gideon as managers.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. This is first bill, Senate Bill 2598 of the nature of non general funds, authorizes the use of monies in special revolving funds to, give flexibility to the agencies, for costs related to, operation administration. So, I believe we gave you a c d one proposed, and we have a release from land and chair on the house side.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Yep. We're good on the most recent proposal.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. So we have may I take the vote for that? [Roll Call] We have a bill Thank you.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    The next bill is Senate bill 2921, and this is relating to sync funds in itself.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    All of the non-general funds, but we are still working on a draft. Myself as Chair and Senators Hashimoto and Fevella excused. And for the House?

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    For the House, it's myself and Reps. Takenouchi and Gideon as managers.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Thank you. And I think we're still working on this. So can we roll this over to what time shall we? Let's see.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    So you said come before 5:00.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    No. Early. Can you guys get it together, because we have a release.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    What is that?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    We have a release.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    On this?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Wow. We also have a release on our Draft. I think they're working in ours, I'll figure something out.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    So we will work on their schedule but sooner is the best.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    How much time do you think they need? You guys headed out yet or?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Give me five minutes.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Five minutes?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    End of day.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    I'm going to need time to review it all. You know what I mean? I have to just take what comes over the table.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Oh, no. No. Yeah. We we agree with the table that was provided.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    You sent over?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Yes. Correct.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. Alright. So shall we move along? Are we going to wait until the end of agenda?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    We are at the end of the agenda.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    It's on a shared doc.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Yeah. Why don't you look? We'll give you ten minutes.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    No, no. I'm joking.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    We'll move this bill to the end of the agenda.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. We'll move it to the end. Okay.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    The next one is Senate bill 2,600 relating to the general fund, and this is, making deposits into the emergency and budget reserve fund. The Senate conferees or myself as so yes. Myself as chair and Senator Kanuma and Fevella. And on behalf oh,

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    yeah. Sorry. And on behalf of the house, myself as chair representatives, Kitsagawa and ... and his managers.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. For this, we have a deposit of 50,000,000 into the ADR. I think we have a release on that and new Yes. Yeah. We also yes.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    We have to be smart. But you will. Alright. So I'm gonna take the vote. This is seven bill 2,600 relating to the general fund, the tax credit, emergency and budget reserve fund, 50,000,000 into the ABRF, another post employment benefits trust fund.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    So for myself as our chair, I vote Aye, [Roll Call] we have a bill.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Next is Senate Bill 2808. This is relating to the easement trust fund, so we will roll that over.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Know if you decided on the time of the other one. So, yeah, what time would you like to roll

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    it with? Do that one.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Four?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    04:30. 04:30.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Yeah. That should be fine. 04:30. 04:30 in this room. Okay.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Okay. Now moving on to the housekeeping agenda, HB 2547 HC 1 s t one related corporate bonds. I think we are still waiting on release, on our end. Can we just roll this one to the 04:30 agenda in this room? And, similarly, HB 220, sorry.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    And I guess, part of that last Bill, myself as Chair, and as Managers. Okay. And then yeah. So we'll roll to 04:30 for that one in this room. And then finally, HB2275 HD 1 SD 2 relating to funding adjustments for state programs.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Also waiting on the final Bill and release for that. So can we please roll to 04:30? Okay. You wanna put that?

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    What time is all? Okay. So

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. So maybe what I'll do is read off the funds for for 02921.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Yeah. What's the total at the bottom?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    $47,151,001. Okay. Can read them all. Okay. So getting back to 2921, on this is the non federal funds, not non state funds.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Department of Agriculture Animal Industry Special Fund, 13,000,543 for Certification Services Revolving Fund, dollars 50,000. For the Industrial Hemp Special Fund, dollars 10,000. For the Department of Accounting and General Services, State Archives, Preservation and Long Term Access Special Fund, dollars 100,000 for the Attorney General's Department, Medicaid Investigations Recovery Fund, dollars 1,000,000 Tobacco Enforcement Special Fund, dollars 500,000, Internet Crimes Against Children Special Fund, dollars 100,000, and Litigation Deposits Trust Fund, dollars 74,000.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    For the DBEDT, the Tourism Special Fund, dollars $328,503 for the Department of Human Resources Development, Human Resources Development Special Fund, dollars 250,000 For DOH, the Mental Health and Substance Abuse Special Fund, dollars 2,500,000. For Title 19, MedQuest carve out General Outpatient Special Fund, dollars 2,500,000.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    For intellectual and developmental disabilities, Medicaid waiver administrative claiming special fund, dollars 2,000,000 for disability and communication access for special fund, dollars 1,000,000 For deposit beverage container deposit, special fund, $12,000,000 For the Department of Land and Natural Resources, their special land and development fund, one point one million four hundred fourteen thousand nine hundred fifty five dollars for the Department of Taxation, the Tax Administration Special Fund, $23,000,000 and for the Cigarette Tax Centimeters Administrative Special Fund, $310,000, totaling $47,151,001. Okay.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    It's okay? Okay. Okay. So shall we take a look on this SB okay.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    The FIN staff overlords have been listening and given the green line. They're in my ear. Great.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    And nice to close book. Okay. Alright. We're ready. Okay. SB2921. [Roll call]

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Thank you. We have a bill thank you.

  • Chris Todd

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Thank you. Okay. Let me go

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    [Background]

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    it's a does it are we live?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Very live.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. Well, we'll gavel in. I'll read it out loud, and you can just check. Okay. Okay.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Hi, everybody. We are back. This is Friday, May 1. It's still past 04:30PM from 07:09. We're going to take a bill out of order.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    We're going to be voting on HB 2275, HD one, SD two, relating to funding adjustments for state programs. In this bill, we've conference draft got worked out. Some of the changes include removing sections one, three, and five. We are removing all references to flooding in the last section. In Section two, we are we're inserting $4,762,983 for ABC.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    In Section four, $984,450 for HCDA. And in Section seven, $100,000,000, to go in and out of the major disaster fund for disaster recovery and response. Is that correct? And sorry. Maybe I missed something in the c d. What section? This is the CD that I was so glad to send for the company. I thought section five was being removed, though.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I think it's because the the sections aren't being removed. They get renumber. You know

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    what I mean?

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. Oh, okay. That's a draft.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. It's a it's a technical draft.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    I'm sorry. The sections I removed from the beginning were the original bill. And okay. And then one more change is that there is going to be a $6,000,000 6,000,000.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Yeah. $6,000,000 into the mass transit special fund. $600,000,000 into the mass transit 500,000,000.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    What? 600. 600. Yes. Okay. Yes. 600,000,000.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Everything else is correct? Okay. It

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    was the 984 for HCDA, 3 for HTC, and then 4.74 ADC, something like that. Okay. Okay. Good. Yes.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. Yes. Sorry. Thank you to the admin for working with us to get all these numbers correct and accurate. Okay.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Did you read the the disaster, sections 12 through 17, you made a CD ... amended to provide a 100,000,000 Yes.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    $100,000,000.90. In and out of the major disaster fund for disaster recovery and response costs.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Great.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    I wanna go into the vote then. So HB2275HD1SD2. We're voting out a conference draft. I vote aye. Representative Quisigao? [Roll Call] And Senator Favella is excused, and we have a bill on this.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you. Very good. Thank you. K.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Do you wanna go down to the top of the agenda for the Senate bill?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    We're gonna take out of order.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Are you gonna do this? Right? No. 2808, you guys.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Wow. I don't have ... on that. Maybe

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    maybe we could just go without the FIM because it's taking too long for the CD, and you got the CD that we wanted. What was missing was the defeasement. Sorry. Yeah. For 2808.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. So should I submit I didn't submit yet because you guys told me another draft is coming. Should I try and submit the whatever I got last?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Yeah. The last one, actually. That way, then we can move on it. Okay.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    I will do that. Do you want to come try and come back and get Those pressed? What time?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    So SB 2808 relating to budget, we will roll to, let's see. I was waiting for a Senator Kanuha because he had to leave too. So we can wait until he comes.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Should we do a brief recess?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. A brief recess.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. We're are back on our agenda from 04:30. We're on HB 2547 HC1SC1 relating to corporate bonds. On behalf of the house, myself as Chair, Representative Kizaga and Reyes-Oda as managers.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    And the Senate, myself as Chair, and Senator Kahuna at the lowest excuse. Okay.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Great. So I think we have approval on this, just updating the, section on bonds. For members of the audience, all the CD is doing is updating the language on page four, lines five, which now reads short term investment grade corporate bonds with a minimum rating of AA minus or equivalent to give some opportunities to budget and finance.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    To invest in. Yeah.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Yeah. And so we have finance release. Yep. And we have five minutes on your side.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yeah. Release. Okay. So we will

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    go into the both. So holding on SB0, H, HB2547 HC1 SC1 adopting a conference draft one. [Roll call]

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    [Roll call]. We have a bill on this. Okay.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. And we're gonna circle back again to the

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    To yeah. Because I, I will get you a copy.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. And so this is SB 2808 SD1, HD1?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    And when would you like us to reconvene at what time?

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    It's just that I still have to run it through finance. I'm gonna need a little bit of time to do that. Do you want to roll?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    I think we bring us a copy. I'll give it to you or something. How should we do that?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    What time is it now? About 4:00? Can we do it at 4:00?

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Yeah. It's 4:45.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    No. No. No. No. That's it, that's the time. Yeah. It's already 4:45. Okay.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    I think I'm going to need a little bit more time than that. Could we roll to 5:15? 5:15 in this room.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Yep. K. Okay. I think that's the only one we have left.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Okay. K. We will see you at 05:15.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. Thank you.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Recon meeting on Senate Bill 2808.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Members are the self as Chair, Senator Hashimoto and Kapella House Member.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    House Member and myself as Chair, and, Kitsagawa and Gideon as Managers.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    I think we sent over a CD1. This is regarding the defeasement bill, but it's also a working group to work on tax exempt exempt and taxable bonds to see how we can have a working group looking at the best use of these funds in the box.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Yes. We got your conference draft, and we did submit it. Have not gotten released yet, though.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So, so shall we roll it over to a five five fifty?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    K. Five Sure. Yeah. Roll to a 05:50 here in this room.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Here in this room. Thank you.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We are reconvening our conference committee meeting for 05:40 here at 03:09, Friday, May 1. HB1391 relating to trade, we have myself as Chair, Hassy as Co-Chair, Members is Clinton and Gideon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Senate side, myself as Chair Lee, Doug Cruz as Co-Chair. Sorry.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We have an agreed CD 1. I just wanted to make a verbal amendment if we could add in an agreed sunset for 5 years on this commission. Yes. Perfect. We do have Ben and I'm Elise.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yep.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Can I get the vote sheet, please? May I take the vote? Yes. At this time, [Roll Call]

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    May I take the vote for the Senate? Yep. [Roll Call]

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    The next item. Yeah.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Which is Chair, we have a bill. Can we move on to the next items? For HB25 HB2429 relating to tax expenditure evaluation. We have myself as Chair, Yamashita as C-Chair, Members Hashem, Tan, and Gideon.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Myself as Chair, Chair, Chair with us. Wakai Co-Chair in for [unintelligible].

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We we have a great CD. We have FIN and WHAM released.

  • Chris Lee

    Legislator

    Yep.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Okay. They take the outboard for this? It's a house store. It's a house store. 2429.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    HB2429. May I get the full sheet? Thank you. Okay. May I take the vote?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Yes. For this measure, HB2429. [Roll call]

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Yes. Member of the bill is six Q Chair, we have a bill. Perfect. Moving on to go ahead.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Senate bill 2259 relating to business economic development, dementia. On the Senate side, myself as chair, Wakai as co-chair, and Favela.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We have, on behalf of the House, myself as chair, Hussey as co-chair, members, Tam and Gideon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yep. I do believe we have agreement and WAM and Fin released.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We do.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Can I go ahead and take the votes?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Go ahead.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Myself as chair, I go aye. [Roll Call]

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. Thank you. Moving on to HB 2546 relating to tax credits for research activities. On behalf of the house, myself as chair, member I mean, co chair Hassy and member of Sanjay Dedi.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    On the Senate side, myself is Chair. ...

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Did we have release? No. Okay. I guess on this measure, we will defer it.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Do we have Fin release? Can we table this real quick? Table. Let's move on to

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Senate bill 2907.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Related to marine affairs, on behalf of the Senate and myself as chair, Gabbard and Kanuha as co-chairs.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the House, we've got myself as chair, Hashem, Hussey, members, Tam and Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    I believe we have agreement and release.

  • Adrian Tam

    Legislator

    Actually, for marine affairs, we have myself as Gedeon. I mean, Gideon as member. We do need to make a verbal agreement on this. There's no appropriation. We also are taking out the- there's no appropriations on this bill.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Adrian Tam

    Legislator

    But if that's okay with you?

  • Adrian Tam

    Legislator

    Okay. Perfect. Let's load this out.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yep.

  • Adrian Tam

    Legislator

    So who's the Fin?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I don't have authorization.

  • Adrian Tam

    Legislator

    I did get the release from the Fin chair that if we don't have any appropriations, I'm able to move this out. So we have a agreement that there's no appropriations on this calendar, and we will move this.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Chair? Where's Chair Hashem?

  • Adrian Tam

    Legislator

    We have quorum because there's myself, Hussey, and Gedeon. Co-chair Hashem is not a Fin chair, and we have a Fin designee here, so we should be good to go.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Chair, good to vote?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    HB2583 relating to economic development. We have myself as Chair, Hashem Co-Chair, Members, Tam and Gideon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On a Senate side, myself as Chair, Wakai, Lamasao, and Fevella as Members.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We do have an agreed CD1 as well. Can I have and we also have, FIN WHAM and WHAM release and the right amount of appropriation?

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    1.5.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Yes. 1.5 b funds. Correct? Yes. Yep.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Are we okay for a call?

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Good.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Myself and in the next one. Can I read out this memo? It's a little bit involved. Yes. For your memo, you have 1.5, beefunds, means of financing for 2583.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Yeah. Perfect. Alright. We are going to move forward with this. And chair votes aye for HB2583.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    You need to say the language, Chair. Which one?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Okay. Just just On the proposed, measure is approved with appropriation for fiscal year '27, noting that only private funds can be deposited into the special funds. Remove the appropriation language in Section three relating to general funds, and remove language on page eight, nine six, allowing legislative appropriations to be placed into the funds. Are you in agreement with that? Yeah.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. Moving on to the vote, we have myself as Chair. [Roll call]

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Member Cabello is excused. Chair, we have a bill.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Moving on to the last measure, which is HB 2546 on the tax-- relating to tax credit research activities. Did we have a release on that, then? That's a 10 million.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Stanley Chang

    Legislator

    I don't have anything.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Nope. Nothing for me.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    No appropriation on-- not for 10 mil.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Okay. So would you be-- okay. We don't have-- well, let's--

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Nothing. Neither one. Nothing. Okay.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Okay. At this time, we'll defer this measure. Thank you, Chair.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We are now adjourned.

  • Jenna Takenouchi

    Legislator

    Thank you. I got you.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Reconvening on SB 2808, representing the Senate, myself as Chair, Senator Hashimoto, and Senator Kapella as Members.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    I am on the side, myself as Chair, Kitagawa and Gideon as Members.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Thank you. This bill is to, to have looked at, defeasement of bills, those bonds that are tax exempt or taxable, and especially as now when we are looking at funding, we and revenue generation, this would allow facilities to use tax tax exempt bonds, convert them to taxable bonds so they can actually have commercial activities like on cafeterias and and so forth in in our public buildings.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So what we have is the CD1 that I passed over to you, which which instead of a defeasement, defeasement fund, we want to establish a working group to look at policies, procedures, and tracking mechanisms for looking at general obligation bonds, taxable and tax exempt. So we have released, but you were Sorry. I yeah.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    I still don't have the lease on my side. Oh, okay. Alright. Well, we tried. Next year, we will try.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Hopefully, they'll be able to do something in the insurance. Yeah. Thank you so much. Okay. So we will Sure.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Welcome, everybody. We are opening on a house and Senate Conference Committee Meeting. Today is Friday, 05/01/2026. The time is 08:03, Conference Room 411. The only item on the agenda we are conferencing on is HB1391 relating to trade.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    On behalf of the house, we have myself as Chair, Asi as Co-Chair, and Members.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On the Senate side, myself as Chair, Lee Dela Cruz as Co-Chairs.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Chair, we do have them agreeing to see you on. I'm still waiting often with us. Is it okay if we roll over and see you today, 11:30AM, conference Room 411. Sounds good? Meeting adjourned.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Hi. Good morning. We are back in Room 411, 05/01/2026. Happy maybe. It's the 801 agenda.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On agenda, we have Senate bill 2074 SD one HD three related to state facilities. On the Senate side, we have myself as chair, Senator Mckelvey and Wakai as co chairs.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    On the house side, we have myself as chair, ... as co chairs, and member Gideon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So I believe we have an agreement with the CD one and waiting a WAM and FIN release. So let's roll in at thirty, same roll today

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We have agreement. Would you like to look this out? Okay. If you don't have Okay.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    So we have HB 2429 relating to tax expenditures evaluation. On behalf of the house, we have myself as chair, Yamashita as cochair, members, On

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    my on the Senate side, myself as chair, Wakai is cochair, and.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Alright. We don't have the form to move this up, but I do wanna mention we have an agreed t one and we do have an let's roll this over to 11:30.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Next up, Senate Bill 2259, SD 1, HD 1 relating to department of business, economic development, and tourism. I'm setting aside myself as chair, Senator Wakai as co-chair and Fevella as member.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House we have myself as chair, Hussey co-chair, members Tam and Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So, of course, agreement, waiting on LAM and Fin on this road to 11:30, same room, same day. Perfect. Thank you.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    to HB2546 relating to tax credit for research activities on behalf of the house. We have a staff Chair, Hashem as Co-Shair, and Members [unintelligible].

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Senate staff as Chair Wakai, as Co-Chair Favella.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    We also have an agreed CD1, but we are waiting for a fifth and final meeting. Perfect. Is it okay if we roll this over same time, 11:30, same as 06/04/2011, and today?

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Okay. It's up. Senate Bill 2360. Willing to state enterprise zones.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On the Senate side, myself as a Chair, Hashem the Co-Chair in [unintelligible].

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    And on the House side, I have myself as Chair, Kusch, Hussey as Co-Chairs, and Members [unintelligible].

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So, of course, we have agreement. I'm missing my friendly face here. So let me go to 11:30?

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    Perfect.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Same going, same time. Next up, Senate Bill 2907 on this-- relating to marine affairs. On my side, myself as chair, Gabbard, Kanuha as co-chairs.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And on the House side, we have myself as chair <inaudible>.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So, of course, release. Again, missing my one designee. So let's go to 11:30, same room-- same room today.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. Moving on to HB 2583 relating to economic development. On behalf of the house, we have myself as chair, Fatih as cochair, and then there's Tammy Vidhi.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On the same side, myself as chair, Wakai Lamasal as co chairs and for them.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We also have a great CD one, but we each have, Fin and WAM release. Is it okay if we also roll this over today, 11:30AM, same noon? Yep. Perfect.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    And then on Senate bill 2580, relating to motion picture digital media and film production income tax credit. On the Senate side, myself as chair, Wakai as co-chair, Fukunaga and Fevella.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And on the House side, we have myself as chair, Hussey as co-chair, and member Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So I believe we have an agreement. Actually, we're still trying to finish up some little tweaks on it. Just roll to same time, 11:30, room 411.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    Alright. Today. And then last item on the agenda, we have HB 1576 relating to filming. On behalf of the house, we have myself as Chair, Huseey as Co-Chair, and Members, staff and Gideon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Senate side myself as Chair, Wakai as Co-Chair and Fevella.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    We do have an agreed CV one on this measure. However, we are still getting on the same. Sounds good. And rolling over to 11:30AM today and. Sounds good?

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    Alright. We are now

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Good morning. We are convening a Joint Conference Committee, Thursday-- Friday, May 1st.

  • Glenn Wakai

    Legislator

    Yep. It's Friday. Yeah.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Friday, May 1st, 9:45 a.m., Conference Room 411. First up, Senate Bill 2595, relating to agribusiness development operation. On the Senate side, myself as chair, Gabbard, Kidani as co-chairs.

  • Cory Chun

    Legislator

    Yeah. On behalf of the House, myself and Rep Kusch as co-chairs and Rep Matsumoto as member.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So I believe we have agreement waiting on CD 1. We have received one. Have you received--

  • Cory Chun

    Legislator

    I haven't received finance for this yet.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Wanna roll to... 11:45? How's the 11:45, 411 today? Okay.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Okay. Next up, Senate bill 2407, Senate draft two, House draft one, relating to agricultural lands. On the Senate side, myself as chair, Gabbard and Richards as co-chairs.

  • Cory Chun

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, myself and Rep. Kusch co-chairs and rep Matsumoto as manager.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So I believe we have agreement waiting for that. And then next, that's, SB3320. We need to. I'm gonna say myself is here. I ask coaches.

  • Cory Chun

    Legislator

    I'm back in the House myself. I'm gonna see with on a precious Co-Chairs. I'm gonna move on tomorrow as Managers.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So do you guys get fineries?

  • Cory Chun

    Legislator

    Yep. Yes.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Ready for both? Yeah. Okay. So, basically, it requires a food and product innovation network to integrate a coordinated food safety and regulatory framework and requires the agribusiness development corporation to establish key performance indicators for the food and product innovation network. It develops a market access strategy, align and harmonize deep learning initiatives, and report certain data to the legislature.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Cars to evaluate our debt enterprise zone incentives in all countries to better support food and product innovation funds.

  • Cory Chun

    Legislator

    So Effective day, 6/1/2026

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    I will take a look for the Senate. To myself, [Roll Call]

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yes. Can I take the vote for the house? Yes. [Roll Call]

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Happy twins.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Welcome, everybody, to our reconvening on our House and Senate Conference Committee meeting. At the top of the agenda, we have HB 1391 relating to trade. On behalf of the House, we have myself as chair, co chair, Hussey, members Quinlan and Gideon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Representative Lucena, myself as chair, Lee, Dela Cruz as co chairs.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We do have an agreed CD one, and we have FIN release.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Still waiting on on WAM.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. Is it okay if we roll over to 04:31, PM today, Room 411. Okay.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Moving on to Senate bill 2074 relating to state facilities. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, McKelvey and Wakai as co-chairs.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the House, we have myself as chair, Hashem, Hussey as co-chairs, and member Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So believe we have agreement and we have Fin and WAM release.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We do. However, we don't have Hashem. And, maybe we should roll this over to 431 as well. And same room, today. Is that okay?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Moving on to HB 2429 relating to tax expenditure evaluation on behalf of the House, myself as chair, Yamashita as co-chair, members Hussey, Tam, and Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Representing myself as chair, Wakai, co-chair, and Fevella.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We also have an agreed CD 1. We do have Fin release on this one.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On our side, we get agreement, but no WAM release.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Alright. Roll it over to 4:31 today at Room 411.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Next up, Senate bill 2259 relating to the Department Business Economic Development and Tourism. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Wakai co-chair, and Fevella.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the House, myself as chair, Hussey as co-chair, members, Tam and Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So, again, I believe they have agreement, waiting on release for funds. You want to roll same time, 04:31, room 411 today?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect. Moving on to the next item, HB 2546, relating to tax credit for research activities. On behalf of the house, myself as chair, co chair Hussey, and members Tam and Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Wakai co-chair, and Fevella.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We do have an agreed CD 1, but I believe we have we're still waiting on releases on both sides. Rolling over to 4:31 today at 411.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Okay. Next up, Senate Bill 2360, relating to state enterprise zones. On behalf of myself as the Senate Chair, Hashimoto, co-chair, and Fevella.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, myself as chair, Kusch, Hussey as co-chairs, and members Tam and Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So I believe we have one agreement. We have WAM release. Not sure if we have FIN release.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We're still pending FIN release.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Okay. Morning to-- for-- wanna go 4:31? Us for Room 411?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Up next, Senate Bill 2097 relating to marine affairs. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Gabbard, Kanuha as co-chairs.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the House, we have myself as chair, Hashem, Hussey as co-chairs and member Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    So I believe we have agreement. I'm sure we have 50 because we have WAM release.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    There seems to be a discrepancy on the amount on this. Would you be open to just zeroing it out and taking out the strategic plan and just pass it without appropriations? Not right now, but when we get a CV.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Can you like roll?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    We'll consider.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Look, looks like we could roll over. Oh, shoot your bill. Would you be open to roll over to 04:31 and have room for them? Moving on to HB 2583 relating to economic development. On behalf of the house, myself as chair, MC as co chair, members, Tam and Gideon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair Wakayla Masal, Coachers, and Faujela.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We do have an agreed CD one, but we are still pending FIN and final release.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yes. Two four thirty one. Eight four eleven. Perfect. K.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Next up, Senate Bill 2580 relating to motion picture, digital media, and film production income tax. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Wakai co-chair, Fukunaga and Fevella.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And on behalf of the House, we have myself as chair, Hussey as co-chair, and member Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    K. So I believe we have a fair WAM Fin release and agreement.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We do. On house rules, if you don't mind, Chair, I just wanna read out the description and the amendments. But before I do that, I just want to say, Chair, thank you so much for making this happen and working on this measure. I also want to thank the governor as well as Senate president and speaker for their work in this measure.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Okay. Let me do this. Since it's a Senate bill, if you don't mind, I'd like to read out the changes that were made.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Perfect.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Again, thank you for the indulgence, the committee. I want to thank the governor.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    I want to thank House and Senate leadership, our money chairs. A shout out to Rick Quinlan, majority floor leader, who has put a lot of time and effort in this bill. And of course, thank you to Dirk and Tokyo and his team. And if you don't mind, I'll read out. Basically, members, before we move this bill, we just wanted to give a brief description of what the bill does. This is a jobs bill for our local people.

  • Glenn Wakai

    Legislator

    Film and television production today is not just creative industry. It's a globally competitive mobile economic sector. With over 90 countries and many states offering aggressive incentives, we are in an incentives and infrastructure arms race, and Hawaii cannot afford to fall behind. This measure is a necessary recalibration to that reality.

  • Glenn Wakai

    Legislator

    It adds a 5% uplift for productions that hire at least 80% local workers, bringing the credit to 27% on Oahu and 32% on neighboring islands, that means more local hires, more paychecks, and stronger support for our workforce. We raised a per production cap from 17 million to 20 million and increased the overall cap to 60 million, a solid starting point to remain competitive while being fiscally responsible.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    This bill also includes a GET exemption for payroll to loan out companies, making it easier to employ our local crews and strengthens accountabilities through independent verification. Just as important, it still advances the state's long term strategy. Incentives are the entry point. Once productions choose Hawaii, our infrastructure and workforce, small businesses can grow alongside of them. With that being said, would you like to go ahead and take the hold?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    I do want to state some amendments. I just want to state that for Oahu, we are keeping the qualified production costs, percentage to 22. And what we are bumping for local hires are actually for the neighbor island. Twenty seven percent is gonna go up to 32% when they qualify for 80% local hire. Also, additional amendments on this bill is that from the CD 1 version, we are raising the cap from 50 million to 60 million, and that is amazing.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    And the other change is that right now, the qualified production cap for the production is 17 million, but that is gonna be raised to 20 million. And those are all the amendments. Ready to vote.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    [Roll Call]

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Thanks, Governor.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Welcome to-- actually, we're coming back from recess. Thank you, everyone, for your patience. We are conferencing on HB 1576, relating to filming. On behalf of the House, we have myself as chair, Hussey as co-chair, members Tam and Gedeon.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Wakai, co-chair, and Fevella.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Chair, we have an agreed CD 1, and we also have FIN release.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Same here.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    All right. If you don't mind, let me just flip to this bill and read out the description. We have-- HB 1576 requires the Department of Business, Economic Development and Tourism to provide public notice of certain information whenever a production obtains a permit or enters into a memorandum of agreement or understanding with DBEDT to film a visually recorded production at certain locations.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Requires DBEDT to provide public notice of certain information whenever a production registers for prequalify-- qualification or to-- is determined to qualify for the motion picture, digital media, film production, income tax credit, and simultaneously post notice on a publicly accessible part of its website.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Allows individuals to sign up to receive the public notice by electronic mail or postal mail, provides an exemption for dispositions of land set aside for filming, and film studio operation from prior approval of the Board of Land and Natural Resources. And the only amendment on this is to clean the date and the actual be-- shall take into effect upon approval. Chair, if it's okay with you, may we take the vote?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Can I get the vote sheet? Thank you. For HB 1576, myself as chair votes aye. [Roll call]. Chair, may I take the vote for the Senate? And for the Senate, [roll call]. Chair, we have ourselves a bill.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Please.

  • Kurt Fevella

    Legislator

    I was gonna say something like, oh, we can get action.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    These tables need to come closer.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Kurt Fevella

    Legislator

    That's closer, but I don't know what happened.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    We are reconvening conference committee meeting. Today is Friday, 05/31/2026. The time is 11:54 for HB 2474 relating to international relations.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, myself as chair, Hussey as co chair, members, Tam and Gedeon.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Thank you. I don't have the thing in front of me. Can you read that?

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    On the Senate, we have Senator Lee as chair and DeCoite and Kanuha as co-chairs. Chair, if you don't mind, could we roll this over at 4:32 PM at Conference Room 411 today?

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Greggor Ilagan

    Legislator

    Ok. Perfect. Meeting's adjourned.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    chairs. So I believe we have agreement and we have we still don't we can't. House House 445. 445, same room. Okay. Moving on to Senate Bill 2407, relating to agriculture and into agricultural land.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    On the city side with myself is chair, Senator Gavin and Senator Richards as co chair. House myself and the commissioners. I go about tomorrow as well. So I believe we have agreement, with the CD one and waiting for one minute to introduce. Next up, Senate Three zero.

  • Lynn DeCoite

    Legislator

    Oh, sorry. Rolling until Friday, 05/01/2026 at 04:45 room 04:11. Yeah. And then That's it? Yeah. That's it. Yes. Yeah. Okay. We're adjourned. Thank you.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Alright. Welcome everyone. Making a note of several bills we're conferencing on. First up is Senate Bill 2152. This raises the mandatory retirement age for state justice and judges from 70 to 75. So thanks to myself, the chair, Kim co-chair, and Fevella as manager.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the House, your co-chairs, Representatives Tarnas and Hartsfield, and managers, Representatives Belatti, PoePoe, and Shimizu.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    I don't believe that we have a Ways and Means approval, so I wouldn't mind doing one last one last convene-reconvene at 5:40. Is that okay?

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    That works. Let's do 5:40PM here in Conference Room 325, later today.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Perfect.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Next up is just SB 2446. This adds on a member to the Army Court of Appeals. For the Senate there's myself as chair, Kim as co-chair, and Awa as manager.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the House, we have co-chairs, Representatives Tarnas and Hartsfield, and we have managers, Representatives PoiPoi and Garcia.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Great. Same situation here. We don't have WAM approval. So if we could hold this to 5:30 today in this room.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    That's good. Third one is also a Senate bill simple twenty nine nineteen. This is a, creating a position to office call offender for the sentence myself, mister Chair Elephante, co chair, Awa, as manager.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the house, we have co chairs, representatives Tarnas and Kush and managers representatives Poitboy and Garcia. Thank you. Okay.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    So I think this has been taken care of otherwise, but if you mark if you don't mind, let's roll to 05:42 just in case something weird happens.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Let's do this at 05:40pm as well, and, we'll meet here in this room, 325.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you. Next is House bill. Okay.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Next bill, House bill 2050, related to partial public financing of elections. On behalf of the House, we have co chairs representatives Tarnas and Peruso.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Offering the Senate, myself as chair, Kim is co chair and was manager, and also ....

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    And this has been a lengthy effort to try to do this. We've increased the partial public financing amounts for different candidates and provide the appropriations to allow the campaign spending commission to be able to pay for those, and, we were successful. We have agreement on a conference draft, and I have released, from finance to move out the conference draft. How's things on your side?

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    But we don't release to my understanding. Yes. I just wanna verify that we have the same corporation now. I have $2,267,021 and importantly 6¢.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    That is correct.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Here we go. That is correct. Right.

  • Joy San Buenaventura

    Legislator

    Can I just thank thank, chair Tarnas for providing the the breakdown? I think that's very helpful to have all of that. So appreciate that work. And I know your staff did it.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Campaign spending commission.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Oh, they did. Okay.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Yes. I've

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    been giving you a

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    few minutes. So let me let's give credit where it's due. Campaign spending commission came through, and they provided that information because they're very more motivated to move this forward. So they wanted to work with us. Great.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Well, thank you very much

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    for that

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    agreement. With, your consent, I will go forward and we'll vote on this. Please. K. It's 05/01/2026 at 02:05pm.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Recommendation of house and Senate managers is to pass with amendments. Chair Tarnas votes aye. Co chair Perusso? Aye. Representative Bellotti?

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Yes. Because this is a state mandated constitutional requirement that we are supposed to do.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Good point. Good point. Yes. Thank you. So that's a yes.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Representative Poitboy?

  • Diamond Garcia

    Legislator

    Aye. And representative Garcia. No. My district's against it. Okay.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Alright. That's a no for representative Garcia. May I take the vote for the Senate? Please. Hey.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Chair Rhodes, co chair Kim.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    And representative Powah is excused. We have a bill. Congratulations. Okay. Let's move on to the next measure.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    HB2094 relating to jury duty. On behalf of the house, we have Co-Chairs Representatives Tarnas and Kush, and we have Managers Representatives Baladi, Poipoi, and Shimizu.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    I'll present myself to Chair, Elle Hante's Co-Chair, and Aloha as Manager.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. This measure is also something we've been working on for some time, which is to, increase the pay for, juries. It increases the amount each juror or prospective juror is paid for each day of actual attendance at court and it appropriates funds. We've circulated the CD, and we have received finance approval for it in the finance release. How's things on your side?

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    I'm good to go. Yes. Yep.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    If I could ask my finance man to read details in the memo,

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Okay, So this for HB2094, we have an appropriation of $684,385 and no sense. And that's a funding is a and an effective date of 07/01/2026.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Sounds right. Sounds good. Okay. So take a vote on this. Recommendation on HB2094 is to pass with amendments.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    [Roll Call] May I take the vote for the Senate? [Roll Call]

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    We have another bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    That's right.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Okay. Let's move on to the last measure on this agenda. HB2095, HD 2, SD 2, related to the judiciary. This is the supplemental budget for the judiciary. On behalf of the House, we have Co-Chairs Representatives Tarnas and Kush and Managers Representatives Poipoi and Shimizu.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    I'm gonna assist myself as Chair, sir. Warren walking as Co-Chair of the law and as Manager.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. This is the budget for the judiciary branch, which is an independent branch of the government. No. There's another piece. You think of this?

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Matthias Kusch

    Legislator

    Do you wanna read it?

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes. Or do you wanna read it?

  • Matthias Kusch

    Legislator

    It's up to you. Okay.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I can do CIP. Alright.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    If you do that,

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    You can go ahead and read it. It's a good thing for you reading it. Good practice.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    No. We rarely talk. This is so I appreciate your efforts on this, Joe Rhodes. This is gonna be the last budget for the judiciary that you'll get to usher through to succession to success. And, I appreciate your efforts, and it's been great working with you on this. The judiciary really appreciates the efforts that you have done over all the years you've served in judiciary in the House and the Senate, and I am very grateful to have the opportunity to work with you.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Let's give them a big round of applause. The judiciary branch is better because of you.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Well, thank you. What's your kind of what you were saying.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yeah. it's an important matter. So this is this is the result of negotiations not only between Chair Rhodes and myself but also between Ways and Means and Finance. I'm very comfortable with the results of it, and, I would like to ask my, finance Co-Chair to give us a brief summary about what is in this measure.

  • Matthias Kusch

    Legislator

    Great. I'm glad there's a lot of attorneys in the room because this is pure attorney speak. This is, HB2095 HD 2 SD 2, the judiciary supplemental budget, and the following agreements have been made between the Senate and the House on disagreements in HB2095, as seen in the HB2095 disagree worksheets on the capital website. If you caught all that, then moving ahead.

  • Matthias Kusch

    Legislator

    Judd 101 courts of appeal sequence 1010-001 and 1010-002 and 2010-001 2010-002.

  • Matthias Kusch

    Legislator

    So that's the House Senate adjustment trading off. 493,994 in general funds for software and professional services. Judd310 , which is the first judicial circuit sequence 1010-001 002 and 1010-001. And 002 House Senate adjustment trading off 103,500 in general funds for supplies and other services. So Judge 601 that's administration sequence 20 001 Senate version.

  • Matthias Kusch

    Legislator

    Sequence 20-002. It's the Senate version sequence 100-1 Senate. And for capital improvement, which is gonna be much faster, stick with me. These are geo bonds for 2026 was $12,000,920.27 is 45,400,000. So 20,000,000 for the construction of a new district courthouse in South Kahala.

  • Matthias Kusch

    Legislator

    Thank you. 15,000,000 to replace and modernize elevators located at Ka'a Manu Hale And Oahu 1st Circuit and 2,400,000 to replace the aging chillers at Pu'uhonua Kau'like Kauai 5th Circuit, and Hale Kau'like Hawaii 3rd Circuit. Finally, $8,000,000 to support ongoing repairs, maintenance, and improvements throughout the judiciary facility statewide. That's the wrap.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    So and and these changes were made in close consultation with the judiciary. There is funding in here for security, which was a very important thing for our courthouses, and also for IT positions so that the judiciary can move into, you know, continue to improve their efficiency using modern information technology. So those are So before we

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    So before we, I'm sorry,

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Go ahead. No, those are my comments on it, and I wanna turn it over to you, Chair Rhodes, for your comments.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Just to see if if, sir, more walk you anything you wanted to add since you were instrumental in the especially on the CIP side.

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    Just the CIP, we try to support the judiciary, especially in some of the areas where they they needed help in in their infrastructure work building. So we're very pleased that we're stretch of work building, so we're going to use that. We're going to support

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    them. Great. Thanks. I would just say that it's been an honor and a privilege to be taking care for as long as I have, and I One of my goals was to be sure that the judiciary you need an independent judiciary. And I've that has certainly been one of my macro goals since I've worked here.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    And so I think I think we've achieved some success over the last 10, 12 years, and I hope that my successors build on that. Thank you.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Absolutely. Well, you leave a great legacy, sir, and we got more work to do in the next week. So and and I always look forward to your advice. If you choose to reengage, just give me a call and let me know. Give me advice.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Okay. Let's go ahead and have a vote on the judiciary budget. HB2095, recommendation is to pass with amendments. [Roll call]. Can I take a vote for the Senate? Please. [Roll Call]

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you very much. We have a judiciary budget.

  • Matthias Kusch

    Legislator

    Thanks. That's the last one on our agenda.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Yes. Okay.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    So there being no further business before us on this agenda, we are adjourned. We have, reconvened with the conference committee. It is Friday, May 1. It's a 02:05pm agenda. It is now 02:17 here in Conference Room 325 for the purpose of reconsideration of a measure at which is SB.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    So I'll turn it over to you, Senator Groves.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    SB 2247, relating to political fundraising by executive branch employees. On behalf of the Senate, it's myself as Chair, Co-Chair Lee, and Manager Awa.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the House, we have Co-Chairs Representative Tarnas and Keohokapu-Lee Loy and Managers Representative Poepoe and Garcia.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    So we just, we just needed to change the effective date from January 1, 2027 to upon approval. That was an oversight on my part when we went through it to the first time.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    I agree, and let's now vote on the bill with the proper effective date. So I'm ready to vote in support of that.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you. Okay. So I see, what is this calendar? This is a little different. Reconsidering. Is that what you're doing? Reconsidering. Okay. So reconsidering our previous decision, which I almost never do. [Roll Call] Can I take the vote for the House?

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Please.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    [Roll Call] Okay. We've made the correction.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Okay. So that's a reconsideration. Now do we have to vote on the proper one? So that's all that... Okay. Okay. Great. That's good. Yeah. There being no further business before us on this agenda, we are adjourned.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    We're opening our reconvene of Conference Committee. Here it's May 1. It's our 2:15 agenda. It is now 2:20 here in Conference Room 325. Welcome, Senators.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thanks for being here. On this agenda, we have two measures. I'd like to take the the second one first so that Chair Rhoads can move along to his next thing. House Bill 472, House Draft 1, Senate Draft 2, relating to digital identification. On behalf of the House, we have Co-Chairs Representatives Tarnas and Kitagawa and Manager Lee and Garcia.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chairs Rhoads and Keohokalole.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. I really appreciate you being agile and and bringing this bill back because it was in it made its Conference Committee last session. And it still had challenges, so the Conference Committee did not move it out. We worked on it, and the introducer, Representative Lee, worked on it with the Attorney General to address the concerns that were left unfinished last year in the Conference Committee, and we've successfully produced that. So kudos to Representative Lee, and we circulated the conference draft with you. I hope you're okay with that.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Great. Alright. Let me just read the description. This measure authorizes the display of a mobile driver's license to a law enforcement officer on a mobile electronic device under certain conditions. It limits a law enforcement officer's access to only the information necessary to verify the driver's license credential when displayed electronically.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    And I want... Rep has also checked in. Rep Lee has also checked in with the police departments, and so they are aware of this and are okay with it. So it's all good. So if with your concurrence, I can go ahead and take a vote.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Excellent.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Okay. On House Bill 472, House Draft 1, Senate Draft 2, recommendation of House and Senate Managers is to pass with amendments. [Roll Call] Okay. May I take the vote for the Senate? [Roll Call] Great. We have a bill. Thank you. We're gonna take a brief recess. Recess.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Welcome back to our reconvene of the Conference Committee. Here, it's Friday, May 1.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    This is our 2:15 agenda. It is now 2:26 here in Conference Room 325. We're considering one measure left on the agenda, which is the Senate bill. So I will turn over to you, Chair Fukunaga.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. This is relating to firearms, and it has to do with additional penalties involving firearms, temporary restraining orders, protective orders, and controlled substances. So on behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Co-Chair Rhoads, and Member Hashimoto are excused.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the House, we have Co-Chairs Representatives Tarnas and Keohokapu-Lee Loy and Managers Representatives Amato, Quinlan, and Shimizu.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    We have traded a variety of different proposals over the last few days, and we are working towards some form of resolution. So we just wanted to kind of keep moving forward every day. We never give up. And so we have submitted another proposed CD 1 for your review. In the meantime, we'd like to roll over until this afternoon, if we might.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Sure. If you want, I can give you some initial comments on your draft, and then I agree with rolling it over to this afternoon. But if I may just provide you with some initial comments. Thank you very much for your counteroffer and addition a newly revised conference draft on Senate Bill 2575. And I do appreciate that the adjustments that you've made, but I wanna note some things because there are parts to this current draft that needs, that they are concerning.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    First is in the proposed draft that section two of the bill, from our attorney's analysis, and I've had several attorneys look at this, it would have no operative effect at all since there is no class a felony penalty under either section 134-7 or 134-9.4. They instead contain penalties of felony b and c for HRS 134-7 and petty misdemeanor for HRS 134-9.4. So the drafting of this, it just it's not it would not be operative.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    And the other concern I have with this section here is that it has not been in any earlier version of this measure. And we're not supposed to insert new things into conference drafts. So that so those are my two things, which are, one, substantive, second, procedural.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Second point that I'd like to make is that in your next section, so this would be section three and on page three of your draft proposed CD 1. It includes a mandatory minimum period of imprisonment without possibility of parole for five years. And as you and I have discussed, you know, my entire political career, I have done everything I could to avoid any mandatory minimums in the legislation that I advocate for and that I pass.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    I do not think mandatory minimums are a good idea. There are mandatory minimums that are already in statute, but I don't wanna add to those. I really believe that it's important to maintain discretion of the judges to decide what's best in that case. And the proposed draft would remove the discretion from the judge and mandate an incarceration term of five years with no possibility of probation or parole. So I have real concerns with that.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    And I just wanna note for felony c convictions, which is what is in this current draft and what was in the House draft that I provided, the judge has two options. First, a maximum incarceration term of five years or a probation term of five or four or five years in addition to a maximum of one year in jail.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    The minimum length of imprisonment shall be determined by the Hawaii Paroling Authority. And so currently for felony c's the judge can already provide that maximum incarceration of five years. And so I would prefer if you wanna move forward with this, I would suggest striking section two because it's inoperative.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    And in section three if remove the mandatory minimum and maintain the felony c, then we might have a deal. So I would take, I would offer you to to do that, to take that back. And in the meantime, I would request that we reconvene on this later today, if that works for you.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Certainly. At 4:15.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    So let's reconvene at 4:15pm here in Conference Room 325 later today. Okay. Thank you very much. There being no further business before us today, we are adjourned.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    Nobody's here to watch us. All right. We are convening Conference Committee, Friday, May 1st, 3:00 p.m., Room 325. House Bill 2241. We have a draft proposed CD we have submitted to you and are waiting for your response.

  • Glenn Wakai

    Legislator

    Okay. And when I hear from the wizard, I will respond.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    Okay. Sounds good. So can we reconvene at 4:40 p.m. in Room 411?

  • Glenn Wakai

    Legislator

    I will be there.

  • Nicole Lowen

    Legislator

    All right. And we're adjourned.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Welcome to the Conference Committee. First time we're meeting. It's Friday, May 1st. It's 3:50 p.m. agenda here in Conference Room 325. It's now 3:58, and we're here to consider a Senate bill. And I will turn it over to my counterpart, Senator Richards.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    Thank you, Chair Tarnas. This is Senator Richards. The conferees on the Senate side are myself as chair, Senator Richards, with Co-Chair Moriwaki and Manager DeCorte.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the House, we have Co-Chairs Representatives Tarnas, Keohokapu-Lee Loy, and Members Representatives Kahaloa, and Garcia is excused.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    Okay, thank you. On Senate Bill 903, this amends the membership and responsibilities of the Public Land Trust Working Group established under Act 226, SLH 2022. Requires the working group to submit the following to the Legislature: by August 1st, 2027, the first interim report regarding Act 178, SLH 2006 financial reporting and accounting by December 1st, 2027, a second interim report regarding the Public Land Trust inventory by June 1st, 2028, a third interim report that includes a preliminary draft of findings and recommendations regarding Act 178 financial reporting and accounting, and the Public Land Trust inventory.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    And by October 1st, 2028, a final report that includes the proposed legislation. By December 31st, 2028, requires the Office of Hawaiian Affairs to submit certain findings and considerations to the Legislature; requires the Office of Hawaiian Affairs to provide administrative support to the working group in coordination with a third-party consultant.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    This bill also appropriates $55 million from the Carry-Forward Trust Holding Account to be transferred to the Office of Hawaiian Affairs to be expended to address the effects of the recent federal funding restrictions that are affecting the native Hawaiian programs and services. In the conversation, Chair Tarnas, we are referring to the 2026-3209, SB 903 CD 1, HMSO proposed-2.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    Okay, thank you. And there is one language tweak. I believe we've agreed on everything, but there's one language tweak that I'd like to read into the record on page 24 in line 17 to 18. Line 17 starts out: Director of Finance to the Office of Hawaiian Affairs as a one-time word grant is changed to transfer.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    And the rest of the paragraph will be revised to read: the transferred funds shall be used by the Office of Hawaiian Affairs solely for the native Hawaiian programs and services with critical short-term funding needs in the areas of education, health, economic development, and community-based initiatives. The transferred funds may not be used for planning, developing, or constructing residential or mixed-use projects or related infrastructures. So, we in agreement on this?

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Should be the last--

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    There was one more line, just so--

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    Oh, I apologize. The sum appropriated shall be expended by the Department of Budget and Finance for the purpose of this section.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes, yes. Thank you. Thank you very much, Chair. May I say a few words? Or, you finish. No, you, please.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    And then I will ask. Well, we'll give them a few more comments. We have WAM release on our side.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes. And we do have Finance release. Checking with my Finance representative. Yes, we do.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    Okay. It is the intent-- well, first of all, I'd like to thank both chambers for working on this bill and getting this brought forward. I also want to thank both committees, Finance and Ways and Means, for being able to get this to happen. This was hard work for our Hawaiian caucuses and hard work for our Hawaiian Affairs. So again, Chair, thank you so much for all your effort you put forth.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    This is truly a collaborative operation between the chambers and it shows the collaborative efforts and initiative that we put forth to get this done. The structure and how we put this together was a collaboration of the working groups, but then also identifying the financial needs of our community, our Hawaiian community, in finding a path forward.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    The language that was used to find that funding came out of a House bill, and I appreciate you guys being able to help us craft this to bring this forward and get this to-- or almost across the finish line. Very, very sure there will be. Again, as stated in what I've read into this, this funding is specifically to be used to backfill the recent federal funding cuts. And with that, Chair Tarnas, then I'll ask for any comments from my side.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Chair Richards, and I appreciate your leadership in the Senate along with your colleagues to make this happen. I wanna thank my colleagues, Representative Keohokapu-Lee Loy, who is our Finance representative, and our Majority Caucus Leader in the House, Representative Kirstin Kahaloa, for your hard work on this measure. Wouldn't happen without you, so I really appreciate that. This is a long time coming.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    We-- this is-- one of the most important priorities of the House majority was to work to meet the needs of the native Hawaiian community, and this measure is evidence-- I'm choking up. This measure is evidence that we're doing our job and accomplishing our goal by moving this forward. The appropriation that's included in this is an important step. It is a transfer of funds from a-- to the Office of Hawaiian Affairs to provide to beneficiaries for much-needed support.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    And I want to make sure that we give all the proper acknowledgements also to the Office of Hawaiian Affairs and the Board of Trustees. They have worked very closely with us and I'd like to ask Representative Kahaloa to say a few words in that regard.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    Yes. We have several members of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs who are here today, and before acknowledging them, it's to some of the efforts of our speaker, Nadine Nakamura, who instructed several members to help over the last interim since the end of last session when the House and Senate were unable to come to agreement on a Public Land Trust bill.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    Several of us have worked behind the scenes in coordination and collaboration with the Office of Hawaiian Affairs to work for-- find a way forward for the Public Land Trust Working Group, and in that collaboration, as federal cuts have been transforming the outlook of native Hawaiian funding for Hawaii, we saw maybe the signs of what could come.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    And so we thought, how can we move this forward with a bill that could help if cuts came? So this was a shot of, it might come, and as we moved forward this session, it came. And so this is kind of a way we didn't-- we hope this would never come, and we appreciate the Legislature for not only working on the Public Land Trust Working Group process to get an inventory forward but understanding that this is a small way we can address federal funding cuts at the same time.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    So we thank everyone, and on behalf of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, we have several trustees here today. So I'd like to acknowledge Trustee Galuteria, Trustee Akaka, Trustee Lindsey, who are representing the Office of Hawaiian Affairs today, along with other colleagues here from OHA.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    If we didn't work together, both House and Senate alongside our OHA colleagues, it probably would be difficult to come to agreement today. So we thank everyone for their efforts and their behind-the-scenes work to come to agreement today. So thank you, chairs, for your efforts and support.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yeah. Glad to be able to shepherd this to this stage, and I'll turn it back to you, Chair Richards, for your commentary, and then we can move forward to a vote.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    Thanks, Chair Tarnas. Senator Moriwaki, do you have any comments you'd like to add?

  • Sharon Moriwaki

    Legislator

    No. I'm very pleased that we are able to assist and support the Office of Hawaiian Affairs. So, in this manner, especially with federal cutbacks that we're looking at, this is a really big step forward in the collaboration between the Legislature and OHA.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. And then, Senator DeCorte, any comments?

  • Samantha DeCorte

    Legislator

    Thank you. Yes, I would just like to make a few comments, please. This is a big day for our lahui. This is a great day. I'm glad to see that we are going to be moving forward to the ending of our session with something for our native Hawaiian community. So I also wanted to thank our chair. Chair Richards and Chair Tarnas, thank you for championing this. Representative Kahaloa, I know you've worked for many years on this, and I just wanted to mahalo you and thank you. And to our speaker who's here today, thank you very much.

  • Samantha DeCorte

    Legislator

    This is a great effort to gain that public trust from our native Hawaiian community to ensure that we are going to help these programs to continue to keep going. So I did wanna thank you all. I would also like to have the chairs possibly consider-- there was a measure within the bill, and I'm happy to see that there have been safeguards on what this money can be spent on and cannot be spent on.

  • Samantha DeCorte

    Legislator

    So I think that would bring a lot of assurance to my community to say, hey, we're putting safeguards here to ensure that the money is getting put where it needs to get put, which is in health, education, and everything that the revised language says. I would also, if you could consider potentially in the committee report, clarifying the portion that says economic development. That could be misunderstood as possibly structural improvements, things like that, and I don't think that that's the intent of the bill.

  • Samantha DeCorte

    Legislator

    I think the intent of the bill is to help on-the-ground programs and be able to turn over those resources and those supplies immediately. So my only ask is if we can clarify that in the committee report just in case anybody might not have its true intent, but other than that, I'm honored to be here, I'm honored to support this bill, and I just thank you all for for ensuring that we, as a Lahui, are solid. Thank you.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    Thank you. I think we are there. We're ready for a vote.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    All right. So with that, recommendation of the House and Senate managers is to pass with the amendment that we have discussed. On the Senate side, Chair Richards, myself, I vote aye. [Roll call]. House, may I take the vote, please?

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    [Roll call]. Haven't done that in a while. We have a bill.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    You guys have a <inaudible>. Thank you for working with us. Yes. Go ahead and sign it, and I gotta sign it back, I think. Yes. Could you give me a pen? A black pen?

  • Tim Richards

    Legislator

    I got one.

  • Kirstin Kahaloa

    Legislator

    Thank you, sir.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    I gotta run next door after I sign that.

  • Samantha DeCorte

    Legislator

    Thanks.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Oh.

  • Samantha DeCorte

    Legislator

    Yeah. Let me get some pictures.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    There be no further business before us today, we are adjourned.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Welcome to reconvene on Conference Committee agenda that we're considering Senate Bill 2575. We're in Conference Room 325. And it's about 4:20, 4:19 in the afternoon on May 1. And as a Senate Bill, let me turn it over to Chair Fukunaga.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Thank you so very much. We have met several times on Senate Bill 2575, relating to firearms. And I think we have gone through a number of different alternatives and really given it a fair evaluation of a number of different approaches. And so we kind of respect the work that has gone back and forth. And I think at this point, we have no new alternatives to propose to you. But we appreciate your review and look forward to seeing what we can do in the future.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Yeah. Let's work on this next session. You know, I tried my best to provide what I thought was a reasonable step forward to address the concerns that I heard from the advocates and negotiated in good faith to try to come up with something in the end. We weren't able to do so in the short time that we had left. So let's start earlier.

  • Carol Fukunaga

    Legislator

    Okay. On that happy note, we recommend that we defer this measure and would like to adjourn and thank you for your hard work.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    I agree. There being no further business before us today, we are adjourned.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Welcome to reconvening our Conference Committee. It is Friday, May 1. It is 5:46pm here in Conference Room 325. Several bills that we rolled over to now. They're Senate bills. I'm gonna turn it over to Senator Rhoads.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Thank you. For SB 2152, this is a kind to increase the mandatory retirement age for justices and judges. For the Senate, it's myself as Chair, Co-Chair Kim and Fevella.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    On behalf of the House, we've got Co-Chairs Representative Tarnas and Hartsfield and Managers Belatti, Poepoe, Shimizu.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    I don't have, I don't have a release, so we'll have to defer that one.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    I will keep working on this.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Thank you. I appreciate that.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    SB2446 is next. It's adds an an ICA judge. It's myself as Chair, Co-Chair Kim, and Fevella Manager.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. On behalf of the house, we've got Co-Chairs Representatives Tarnas and Hartsfield and Managers Poepoe and Garcia.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    Same situation here, so we'll defer that one as well.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    And I will keep working on this too. Thank you.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    SB 2919, this is relating to Public Defender. Senate, it's Rhoads as Chair and Senator Elefante is Co-Chair and Awa as Manager.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thanks. On behalf of the House, I have myself, Tarnas, as Co-Chair with Representative Kusch and Managers Poepoe and Garcia.

  • Karl Rhoads

    Legislator

    My understanding it's in the budget, so I'll have to take, take everybody's word on that and we'll defer this.

  • David Tarnas

    Legislator

    Thank you. I agree. That's the best that we can do. Okay.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Good

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Good morning. This is our Friday, 05/01/2026, 09:30am, conference committee agenda in Room 229 at Capitol. We're convening on SB 2694 Senate Draft Two, House Draft Two, relating to water carriers on behalf of the Senate myself as Chair. Inouye, the Co-Chairs.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Happy meeting. Happy. On behalf of the house is SB2694SD2HD2. I have myself, Co-Chairs Matayoshi, Co-Chairs, Todd, Member [unintelligible].

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Happy May Day. We are working on a conference draft, and as soon as we get that in both of our possessions and two ways and means in finance, I hope that we can move on this measure. Can we reconvene on this in our CPN Committee Room 224 at 2PM? 224

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    2PM. I will see you there. Okay. Thank you very much.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Good morning. Aloha Friday, May 1. This is the conference committee. I hearings on the agenda before us. We're in Room 329 at the 09:31AM hearing notice.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Morning, Chairs and Members. Can we proceed then Please. With with let's proceed with SB 2400 SD one HD one relating to transportation. The The countries for the Senate, myself, Chair Inouye Co-chair, Keohokalole, and Members [unintelligible].

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. We're SB 2400 SD1 HD1 on behalf of the house. I have myself, Member.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    K. We're happy that this measure is still alive and well so far. However, do you you need it, Finn. We have no no money on the on the Senate side.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    So, so thank you. We have a proposed CD1 that was loaded from your office for a review currently by finance. Hoping we can get that sooner than later, but we need to work on this one.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    That's fine. We can reconvene on twenty four hundred in in this Room 329 so far at 11:15AM. Is that enough time?

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Do you if we try 11:30?

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Oh, one second. Oh, you have a little bit of time. We we 11:30, we do have a reconvening with you as well. Is that correct? Would it work?

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    We can do it at 11:30 or 11:31. Okay. Okay. 11:30. I have another committee.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Let's see. 11:35.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    How many can I share only one? Yeah. I think we can. Okay. So 11:35AM reconvening on SB 2400 house draft one eleven thirty five.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Today's date, May 1.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. And are we in the same room as home?

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Same room, 329, May 1, 1135.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. Yes. 3 in the Room 329. Yes.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Okay. Shall we move on then? Okay. Let's move on to the current Conference Committee on SB 3157, House Draft 2. And this is for the Senate conferees, myself, Chair Inouye, Co-Chair Hashimoto, and Member...

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. On SB 3127, House Draft 2. On behalf of the House, myself, Co-Chair Takenouchi, and Member Pierick.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Again, this measure as well, I think in consideration, we do need clearance as well from Ways and Means. Do you have FIN clearance?

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    We are on the same boat as you currently. We need Finance release on this one.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Alright. And I think in agreeable, we decided to go with the House Draft 2. Yeah. Okay. Can we reconvene then on this measure, on SB 3157, to 11:35am in Room 329?

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Alright. We'll proceed that, Members, to SB 3215, House Draft 1, and this is relating to the harbor safety. This measure, Members of the Senate, myself, Chair Inouye, and Co-Chairs Elefante and DeCoite, Member Kanuha.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. For SB 3215, House Draft 1. On behalf of the House, it's myself, Co-Chairs Sayama, Miyake, Member Muraoka.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    And this measure as well, we have not received any WAM clearance on this measure. Can we roll this over to 12:30? Would that work for you in Room 329? And this would be for today. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Members. Okay. Moving along. Happy Friday.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Happy Friday. May Day.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Is it? Oh, yes. Okay. Alright. That sounds good.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Going right into our 9:35 a.m. agenda, here in Conference Room 329 for a couple measures for discussion before us on HB 2023 House Draft 2 Senate Draft 1, relating to transportation. On behalf of the House, myself, Co-Chairs Tarnas, Co-Chair Kitagawa, Member Muraoka.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    The Senate conferees for-- to HB 2023 Senator Draft 1, myself, Chair Inouye, Co-Chairs Rhoads and Moriwaki.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. For this measure, we are both still awaiting win-win-- WIN and FAM-- FIN and WAM release. If you are amendable, can we please move this to 11:35 today, May 1st, in Conference Room 329 for further discussion?

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    I agree.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. All right, members. Our next measure before us, HB 2417 House Draft 2 Senate Draft 1, relating to administrative license verification. On behalf of the House, I have myself, Co-Chairs Poepoe, Member Pierick.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    For the Senate conferees on HB 2417 HD 2 SD 1, myself, Chair Inouye, Co-Chairs Rhoads and Tarnas.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. So for this measure, we did not have FIN, but you folks had WAM.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Yes, we do.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    From my understanding, you folks are ready to vote on this measure.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    We can vote on this measure, and we appreciate the work on this as well.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. So, members, on HB 2417 with the proposed conference draft, largely, it stays in its current intact form as proposed, to a technical small amendments clarifying administrative driver's license revocation procedures by specifying the effect of the notice in the administrative revocation performing related administrative review and bearing provisions. This measure was a shock to us because, as we know, trying to make road source-- or road sense that much safer.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    It also requires us to have the teeth to make sure the revocation processes stick. So I wanna mahalo to you, Chair, for working with us on proposing this measure to getting to the point of closing some of these loopholes that have been exploited, largely making sure that the revocation process can stick in its form when we revoke someone's license.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    So with that, members, with the proposed Conference Draft 1 before us, I would like to take the vote. For HB 2417 House Draft 2 Senate Draft 1 Conference Draft 1, recommendation's to adopt the conference draft as proposed with amendments. On behalf of the House, Chair Kila voting aye. [Roll call]. May I take the vote on behalf of the Senate?

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Yes. And it's been our pleasure working with you and the committee on this measure. Thank you. Yes, please.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. [Roll call]. Thank you. We have a bill.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Yes. Yay.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    So this adopted. I'd like to move on to our last agenda item for the 9:35 agenda. Okay. Ready.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Ready.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Alright. Let's proceed then to SB 3234, SD 2, House Draft 1, related to traffic safety. Senate conferees on this measure, myself, Chair Inouye, Co-Chair Kanuha, Members Lee and DeCorte.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. On behalf of the House is myself, Co-Chairs Miyake, Members La Chica and Muraoka.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Okay. And we did receive WAM's release, and I understand you're okay with this on your side as well. And just to recap on this measure, that it is appropriating the funds to DOT, and this is installing pedestrian safety improvements on sites, by school properties, and with consideration for other sites as well.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Yes, Senator. With the following on the proposed conference draft one, it acknowledges that $2 million for... may be necessary for speeders 26, 27, and shall be deposited from this for will be utilized for the school's program special fund related to school... Safe Routes to School Program Special Fund established between the section 291c-4.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    And I just wanna mahalo you for your work on this one and Senator Lamosao for working at this and Senator Lee as well. So acknowledging section two, there's an individual in myself and Senator DeCorte's district that unfortunately was lost her life. And so this measure is to honor her as we think about trying to make her roads so much safer for our communities.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Okay. We're ready. We do have quorum on our side. Are you okay on your side?

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Ready to go.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    We proceed then in on taking a vote on this measure. Okay. For SB 3234, Senate Draft 2, House Draft 1. [Roll Call] Okay. May I proceed with, with the House? Alright. Okay. [Roll Call] Okay. Alright. Thank you.

  • Darius Kila

    Legislator

    Senator, before we get too busy today, because we have a lot of before us, I just wanna publicly say it has been a pleasure to work with you and your staff this year so far in the measure before us. We saw several agenda items before us today. But on behalf of the House Committee on Transportation and my office, I'd like to mahalo all you folks and celebrating May Day as well.

  • Lorraine Inouye

    Legislator

    Yes. Thank you so much. Excuse me. What time is it now? Sorry.