Conference Committee

The call to order a joint committee a conference committee. This is not education. It's a medium.

I'm taking track.

Yeah. Finance and, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you.

I'm sorry. It's it's kinda early for me. Today is Thursday, April 30th. It is 11 AM in Room 2309. We have one item on the agenda, and that is SENATE BILL 2881, relating to tax income relating to state income tax.

And the contrary for the Senate is myself as chair, Moriwaki, and Fovella, members.

Thank you. And on behalf of the house, myself as chair, representatives Kisikawa and Gideon as managers.

Jenna, thank you very much. You know, this this sounds like an office bill. That's really an important bill. With a layperson who needs to pay their RMDs or pay any kind of taxes, they can either choose to wait till the end of the year or they can pay it upfront. And Hawaii is one of the few states that don't allow you to pay the state tax upfront.

You can pay the federal, but you can't pay the state. So when time comes for fifteenth, people stop me on the road and tell me, can't we do something about this? And so it is an important issue. So I think the house for your folks' cooperation and making sure we get this passed. And we do have RAM release.

Yes. And we have, finance released on our side as well. Okay.

So, can we go ahead and take the call?

Yes. Just really quickly, for the members of the audience, Senator gave a great explanation with the DOTA, just making it explicit, and the only change in the conference draft was to put in effectively.

Very good. Okay. So we are voting on SENATE BILL 2881, conference conference draft one. {Vote}

Hey. We have a bill. Thank you.

Thank you. And we will go out of our first 11AM agenda to double in on the second 11AM agenda.

Good morning. So we will move right into the Senate Bills. For the first bill, Senate Bill 2598-2829 General funds. I believe this is this is relating to authorizing use of monies in certain special and revolving funds for operating and administrative costs for related programs. So that authorizes them to move funds for the purposes of of adding in their flexibility and just certain amount.

I think three funds, agricultural development revolving fund, strategic development revolving fund, and the school facility special fund.

So I think the only difference we have is the effective date, so I did circulate or did you get the contract the post contract? Sorry.

Hello? I I think on all these measures, I don't think we're quite ready, though.

Oh, okay.

Well, yeah. I can check on Okay. What we

have here. I'd like to tell tell me the members. Okay. The house the Senate conferees and myself as chair, Senator Hashimoto, and Senator Favella.

Okay. Our side is myself as chair and reps, Takenoguchi and Gideon as staff members.

So we will roll this over to tomorrow at, eleven, same time.

Seven? That'll work?

Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Thank you. Next bill, SENATE BILL 2921 relating to state funds.

This this is all of the non federal non general funds looking at excess funds in those accounts, and we're still working on contract from that. Oh, let me go back too.

Alright.

Senator Kanpuru, myself, chair, Hashimoto, and Prabella. Okay.

On our side, myself as chair, Rev Takenouchi, and Gideon Panasbach.

So we will roll this over as well tomorrow at 11AM in this room, 309. Metro, Senate Bill 262600, related to the General fund. This is the, myself as chair, and Bella as members.

And on behalf of the house, myself as chair, Marcy Tito, and Gideon as members.

And this bill provides a tax credit to payer taxpayers who makes deposits to the emergency and budget reserve fund and other post employment benefits trust fund pursuant to Article Seven, section six of the state constitution. And this also needs to be rolled over. Yes. The thing is wrong.

Yeah. We'll do Friday, 11AM in

this room. Yeah. In this room. Next bill is 7.2808, and this is related to the budget. This is the easement bill we thought so we have bills.

We have we have bonds that are in are forgetting the. The Senate size, myself as chair, and senators Kashimova as members.

And on behalf of the house and myself as chair, represents Kisagawa and Gideon as members.

K. The, intent of thiS Bill to SB 2848, and I think we circulated a conference draft, but, what we wanted to do is is still work on another version of it to include defeasement. We're taking out defeasement. It has to do with defeasing funds because we have properties that are funded through tax exempt bonds. But if we want to use, for example, cafeteria to generate revenue, we need to have taxable bonds.

So what we're doing is defeasing the having a fund that can defease, which means cancel that tax exempt bond status and then shifting it to taxable bonds so that we can collect the revenues. So what we're doing, because it is premature to have the fund when we don't know procedures, what we've done is added in a working group so that they can start looking at policies and procedures and how we might defeat funds. Yes. Thank you for the conference track.

We are reviewing that and looking forward to see what we can come to agreement on.

And we will send you a draft that's being revised now, and that, again, will be tomorrow at this week. Now it's yours. Okay.

On HB 329, HB1S1 relating to conformity to the internal revenue code. The I was conferees with myself as chair, reps Takenouchi, and Gedeon as managers.

On our side is myself as chair, Senator Kanuha and Senator Fidelity. Okay.

I think similarly on this one, this is relatively straightforward, but I think tomorrow we'll be ready to update things out. So 11AM tomorrow if that's okay.

Alright. Thank you.

Sure.

And next, we're gonna be thing on HB 2452 SD 1 relating to state bonds. We have myself as chair, Reps Kitagawa and Reyes Oda as managers. K.

On our side, myself as chair, senators Kanuha and Fevelle as manager.

Yes. So this is our annual bill for state bonds. I think we're still waiting on a lot of things from FIN and WAM. If we could just roll this to tomorrow, 11AM here in this room.

Thank you. Okay. And next

we'll be opening up on HB 2547 HD1SD1 relating to corporate bonds, on behalf of the House, myself as chair, representatives Kisagawa and Reyes Oda as managers.

Sitting inside, myself as chair and Senator Kanuha and Pavella.

Oh, I think, we are still working on this one. This bill would allow budget finance to use, short term investment corporate rate bonds.

Can we keep working on this one and wait for approval and roll this to tomorrow, 11AM in this room?

Thank you.

K. And the final measure on the agenda, HB 2275 h d one s d two relating to funding adjustments for state programs. On behalf of the house, myself as chair, representatives Kitagawa and Gideon as managers.

On our side, myself as chair and Senator Hashimoto and Fevella as manager.

And this is, emergency funding appropriation. I think we're still waiting on the final number that we're gonna, be able to, release. So can we also, roll this one through tomorrow, Friday at 11AM in this room? Thank you. Great.

Okay. That's all. We're adjourned. Thank you.

Aloha, everyone. Reconvening on HB 1800, the state budget bill here in Thomas Room 309. The plan would be that we roll this over to 7PM and Should be okay. You good?

Yeah. The budget is closed. We're done with the budget. It's just gonna be paperwork, proofing, editing, verifying. But hopefully, we can test Just wanna give the staff enough time so that we can report out the actual line items as we have.

So now we can focus on those. So thank you guys all for all your help, and just thank you so much to the finance committee and their staff.

And same goes on the ways and meansides, and honestly a pleasure. So thank you all for your patience too.

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Somewhere around.

Okay. So we'll adjourn and reconvene at seven.

Good morning, and welcome to the 10AM agenda for the committees on housing in the house and the Senate. Our first bill today is SENATE BILL 2060 relating to the rental housing revolving fund. Senate conferees are chair Chang, co chair Hashimoto, and member Rhodes.

On behalf of Dallas, we have myself and representative Miyake as co chairs and representative Pierick as manager.

I understand we have we have WAM release, but we're still waiting. Fin, is that right?

Yes. We are waiting for him.

Come back on this bill 10AM tomorrow in this room, 224.

Sounds good. Thank you. Next item is HB 1713 HD one, SD one related to School impact fees. On behalf of the house, we have myself and representative Miyake as co chairs and representative Miyake as manager.

Senate conferees, our chair Chang, co chairs Kim and Hashimoto.

We are still waiting for FIN release, and I believe you folks are still waiting for him. Is that right?

That's right. Okay.

Next item is HB 1718H21S21 related to housing. On behalf of the house, we have myself and representatives Hasham and Miyake as co chairs, and representatives Yamashita and Cochran as managers.

So that said, we if it's agreeable to you, Senator Chang, we could roll us over also to our 10AM agenda tomorrow in Room 224.

Sounds good.

Senate managers are Chair Chang and co chairs Wakai and Hashimoto.

We actually have been released on this, but I believe you folks are still waiting for WAM. Is that correct?

That's right. We're still waiting on WAM.

So if it's agreeable with you, if we can roll this over till 10AM tomorrow in this room.

Sounds good. Thanks. Senate Bill 2338 relating to housing. Senate conferees are chair Chang, cochair Hashimoto, and manager Elephante.

On behalf of the house, we have myself and representative Sayama and Miyake as co chairs, and representative Muraoka as manager.

And again, sorry. We we have a new CD one that we've agreed on, and so we're still waiting on WAM release.

Yeah. We do. We sent this in late last night for, PIN release. So yeah.

Okay. Great. So let's reconvene on this measure at 10AM tomorrow in this Room, 224.

Sounds good.

And finally, SENATE BILL 2552 relating to the individual housing account program. Senate managers are chair Chang, co chair Hashimoto, and Senator Favela.

And on behalf of the house, I have myself and representative Miyake as co chairs and representative Matsumoto as manager. And, actually, she stepped out for a second, and she is back. Amazing. Yes.

We have agreed on a CD1, and I believe we have been realeased.

And we have been released. So we are ready to go. Yay.

Okay. Great. So, the description of the bill is for taxable years beginning 01/01/2027, it increases the maximum annual and total allowable deduction for contributions to individual housing accounts for income tax deductions and increases the maximum allowable contributions for for individual housing accounts to qualify for the income tax deductions, repeals outdated language applicable to first time home purchases made before 01/01/1990 by persons with an individual housing account.

The CD1 changes the proposed maximum changes the maximum deduction and contribution amounts to $20,000 for an individual taxpayer in a single taxable year, $40,000 dollars for a married couple filing jointly in a single taxable year, and $200,000 for the allowable limit for all taxable years in the aggregate, a lifetime limit. It also changes the effective date to upon approval.

That sounds good to me. Senator Chang and Senator Hashimoto and all the rest who have worked hard on this, I appreciate your work and I appreciate the efforts, over many years of trying to get this bill to the finish line. Good to see it.

Thank you, sir.

Yes. Many years and many individuals including representative Matsumoto. Alright. The recommendation of the house and Senate managers is to pass with amendments. {Vote} We have a bill.

There being no further business, this meeting is adjourned.

Good morning. We're reconvening our conference committee on this Thursday, April 30 at 10:10 in Room 224 on three measures on this agenda. The first being Senate Bill 3218 SD2 HD2. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto, co chair, Fevella as a member.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Okay. I've enjoyed working with you on this measure. We've got all the language squared away and are just awaiting our money committee's OKs. So if you don't mind, I'd like to roll this over till tomorrow. That would be May 1 at 10:10 in Room 224.

Sounds good to me.

The next measure is Senate Bill 3219 HD two, proposing amendments to Article 7, Sections 12 and 13 of the Hawaii State Constitution. On behalf of the Senate, myself, Mr. Chair, Rhodes, Hashimoto, co chairs, Fevella as a member.

And on behalf of the house, we have myself and representatives Tarnas and Miyake as co chairs and representative Murak as manager.

And likewise, with this measure, we have worked out all of the language and are waiting for the money committee approval. So if you don't mind, I'd like to meet you here in the same room, 224 at 10:10 tomorrow, May 1.

Sounds good to me. Okay. Perfect. And then last thing on the agenda is HB 1741 HD 2 SD 1 related to housing. On behalf of the house, we have myself and representatives Hashem, Tarnas, and Miyake as co chairs and representative Cochrane as manager.

On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Chang, Hashimoto as co chairs.

This bill, we did put in another or sort of last minute revision last night. We were able to get FIN release this morning on it. But given, I think, the last minute nature of that revised release, I think you guys don't yet have WAM.

Yeah. We're still, like, in the transfer.

So if it's agreeable to you, Senator Wakai, if we could roll this over to 10:10AM tomorrow in Conference Room 224.

Yep. Look forward to it.

Alright. Sounds good. Seeing no further business, this hearing is now adjourned.

We are on our 10:30 am Agenda, and it is exactly 10:30. And we are in Conference Room 224. The first item on the agenda is HB 2606 HD two SD one related off-site construction.

On behalf of the house, we have myself and representatives Hashim and Miyake as co chairs and representative Puric as manager.

On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, co chair Hashimoto, and manager Inouye.

So we have worked out our actually, revised CD one, which I believe we both sent in last night for fin actually, I'm sorry. We're actually working on drafting still on our side. So we have not submitted that for fin release, but but we will be as soon as we get our final draft back. And so if it's agreeable with you, Senator Fukunaga, if we could roll this over till tomorrow at 10:30. Okay.

So tomorrow 10:30AM in Conference Room 224. Okay. Right. Signal for the business is hearing is now adjourned.

Good morning. We're convening the conference committees on our 10:45AM agenda on SB 3028 relating to property conveyance on behalf of the Senate. I have, myself as chair, Senator Dela Cruz as co chair, and Senator Wakai.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and representative Todd as co chairs and representative Muroka as manager.

Thanks. I think there's a ongoing conversation. Can we roll this over to 10:45AM tomorrow in Conference Room 224? Perfect.

Looking forward to maybe voting.

The next one's yours.

Next item is HB 1842 HD 2 SD 1 relating to government. On behalf of the house, we have myself and representatives Hashem and Yamashita as co chairs and representative Muraoka as manager.

Thank you for the Senate, myself as chair with co chair Elefante and Senator Chang.

We have no agreement on this bill. So if it's grilled with you, Senator Lee, if we could roll this over also to 10:45 tomorrow in this room. Yes. Okay. Seeing no further business, this hearing is now adjourned.

Which one do you want to confirm?

We'll start with the 10:31. Good morningg, convening our 10:31 conference committee agenda for the several agendas for us this morning, beginning with HB 2023 HD2 SD1, relating to Transportation. On behalf of the house is myself, Co-chair Tarnas, Co-chair Kitagawa, member Muraoka.

Okay. Thank you, chair on the Senate. I'll come through these for HB 2023 House Draft 2 Senate Draft 1, myself; Chair Inouye, and Co-chairs; Rhoads and Moriwaki.

Thank you, Senator. So for HB 2023 HD2 SD1, there was an agreed upon CD1. This one is the measure that we're waiting for both. We have failed release. We got that this morning.

So we need for WAM release. For this measure, are you okay if we go tomorrow to 09:35 and May 1 here in Conference Room 329? Thank you, Senator. I think it's 5:01 tomorrow.

09:31. 951. Yes.

Yeah. 09:35AM hearing in Conference Room 329.

Yes.

Yes. Thank you. Again at 09:35AM, please.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Okay. HB2417, HC2SD1 related to administrative license verification. On behalf of the house is myself, co-chair PoePoe and member tiers.

I have the extended countries on HB 2417, HD2SD1, myself, chair Inouye, co chair is Rhodes, and.

Thank you, Senator. For this measure as well, there is no fan, but there is no WAM. So we're waiting on release on that side from you folks. If you're okay, can we also roll this into 09:35AM tomorrow, one from 02:30 to nine for further discussion? Okay.

Thank you very much.

Thank you. Okay.

Alright. Sorry. Let's proceed then with SB 3234, Senate draft two, House draft one relating to traffic safety. Senate contract release on this measure is myself, Jerry Inouye, and co-chair Kanuha, members Lee and the court.

Thank you, Senator. I'll be over the house. It's myself, coach Yamayake, members of the chief and moral compass.

K. And this measure as well, we need to reconvene, and let's reconvene then on SB 3234 on Friday, May 1 at 09:35AM in Room 329. Thank

Thank you, Senator. I concur. With that, let's go right into our 10:41, 10:40 conference agenda for the measure HB 2423, HD 3 SD 1 related to biodiesel. On behalf of the house is myself, co chairs Ilagan, Matayoshi, Miyake, members of the.

Thank you. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair.

Senator, for this one, I believe we're waiting on your folks' side. It got been released for this measure. Are you amendable to beginning tomorrow, 09:35AM in Conference Room 329?

Actually, can you do 09:50.

Yep. 09:50AM agenda for nine five zero. 09:50AM for HD 2423, May 1st here in Conference Room 329 for further discussion. K. Thank you.

K. I'll see you folks tomorrow. We are adjourned.

Good afternoon. Good morning. We're convening the conference committee on our 11:10AM agenda here in the State Capital Conference Room 329 on SB 3029, linked to community development on behalf of the Senate, myself as chair with co-chair Inouye and Senator Lanza.

Thank you, Senator. On behalf of the house, I have myself and Kocekita Gao, members of Miyake and Murabukawa.

Thank you. I think we have a FINLAN lease requirement here. So can we roll this over to 11:20AM here in Conference Room 329 tomorrow?

Yes. I just wanna confirm that we sent the c we received the c d one, and we sent it for a payment release request. Okay. Yep. Tomorrow, 11:20AM, if you're in this room.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Hello, Mike. Good morning. Join the Senate tag and department committee and the House Ag and Food Systems Committee Reconvene Conference Committee. It's 09:30am on Thursday, April 30. Starting off with SB2110SD1HT1.

Descent, myself as chair, Richard's co chair, and Rhodes as manager. On behalf of

the house, myself and rep Sloan and Chris as co chairs, and rep Russo and Matsumoto as managers. Okay.

So waiting for WAM and Fin release on this one. Nice. And so

We'd like to roll this to Friday, May 1, at 09:15 AM, here in Room 325. And then moving on to SB 2321, SD 1 HD 1, with two lines [inaudible] above. The Senate, myself as Chair, Richards as Co-chair, Rhoads as Manager.

And for the House, myself and Rep Kuschas as Co-chairs, and Rep Matsumoto as Manager.

And again, waiting for money release, so we'll roll this to Friday, May 1 at 09:15AM and 03:25. Next is SB 3233, s t one h t two, the lead to ag workforce housing, the Senate, myself as chair, McAlban Richards as co chairs, Rhodes as manager.

On behalf of the house, myself, got Miyake and Chris's co chairs, and Rick Matsumoto is manager.

And, again, waiting for a WAM and Fin release. We'll roll to Friday, May 1, 09:15 AM, and in Room 325. Next is SB 2405. We need to add workforce housing to the Senate, myself as Chair. Hashimoto as Co-chair. Richards as Manager.

And on behalf of the House, myself, Reps. Miyake, Ichiyama, and Kusch as Co-chairs, and Rep Matsumoto as Manager.