Conference Committee

Foreign. Good afternoon.

Reconvening the Committee from yesterday. Today's date is April 23rd. We are in Conference Room 229 and it's about 1:33pm first up we have HB 987 HD1SD1 regarding procurement on behalf of the House we have Woodson and Morikawa as Chairs and Muraoka as manager.

Thank you. I have the Senate myself as Chair. Co-Chairs are Kim and Moriwaka and Fevella and all are excused except yours truly.

Okay, thank you. Senator, we don't have been released on our side. You have when release?

No, we do not. Either we memo'd out or hopeful we'll get something back here soon. So you want to try to meet up tomorrow?

Okay, we did the same. So tomorrow the 24th at 3pm in this room. 229 correct, sir. Thank you.

Thank you. Have a good day.

Thank you. Chair, Senate Bill 423SD1HD2 relating to the early Learning Board Senate conferees, myself as Chair Kanuha, Kim, the court managers.

On behalf of the House with Perruso as Chairs and Souza as managers. Senator, we're ready to vote for this bill on our side.

As you can see, can't vote so can we roll this over to tomorrow?

Okay.

4:243:00pm in this room.

Thank you.

Thank you. Senate Bill 532 SD2HD2 relating to the Department of Education Senate conferees, myself as Chair, Hashimoto and Keohokalole Co-Chairs.

On behalf of the House we have Woodson, Keohokalole, Lee Loy and Chun as Chairs and Souza, Olds as manager.

Thank you. Chair, can we also roll this over to tomorrow?

Okay, that sounds good.

3:00pm in this conference room.

Okay. Next we have HB 622 HD 1 SD 1. On behalf of the House, we have Woodson as chair, La Chica and Souza as manager.

For the Senate: myself as chair, Donna M. Kim, DeCorte, managers.

Okay. Thank you, Senator. We're going to move to agree to the SD 1, so I'll go ahead and take the vote for that.

I can't vote. I don't have--

Chair votes aye. [Roll Call].

I can't vote on it. I haven't received the CD 1, by the way.

Senator, we're moving to agree to the SD 1 so you don't need to vote.

Okay, but can I see the copy of the CD 1? Do we have the CD 1?

We're moving to agree to that--to the SD 1 which has a clean date, so there is no CD.

Okay. Thank you.

Final one on the agenda. Senate Bill 1300 SD1 HD1 relating to school meals, Senate conferees, myself as Chair, Inouye, Co-Chair, Kanuha, DeCorte managers.

On behalf of the House, we have Moriwaka, Morikawa as Chairs, Amato, La Chica and Souza as manager.

And we don't have one release on this. So can we roll this over to tomorrow? 424, 3:00pm in this conference room.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Now convening the conference Committee on Higher education bills. Today is Wednesday, April 23, 2025. A few minutes after 3:00pm 3:00pm In Room Conference Room 229. On our agenda today, we have one House Bill and two Senate Bills. First up, House Bill 1168 HD1ST1 relating to University of Hawaii revenue bonds for the House. Have myself and Rep.

Kitagawa as Co-Chairs. Members Amato and Muraoka, our Senate Committee of Chairs.

Myself as Chair, Hashimoto Co-Chair and Fevella Member.

Thank you, Senator. We did circulate a CD1 for this bill. But I think we're just seeking clarification on whether the bonds were for year one and year two of the biennium. So we'll get that clarified. When should we defer this? Roll this one over to.

Tomorrow 11001015.

I think we have a 145 agenda as well. So. Okay, so deferring hospital 1168 HD1SD1 till Thursday, April 24th at 1:50. That's 5 00pm in room 229. Okay, turning it over to you for the two Senate bills.

Okay. Senate Bill 657, relating to the Center for Climate Resilient Development. The conferees are myself as chair, Gabbard and Hashimoto co-chairs, and Fevella is manager.

Okay, thank you, Senator. For the House: myself, Reps. Hashem and Lamosao as co-chairs, and Member Souza.

Okay. Chair, we're gonna roll this over to Friday.

Friday? Okay.

What's our time Friday? 3:00 p.m. In this room.

Okay, thank you.

Okay. And for Senate Bill 865, relating to agriculture, this is for CTAHR: myself as chair, Kanuha co-chair, and Fevella member.

Thank you, Senator. For the House: myself and Rep. Holt as co-chairs, Members Kapela, Lamosao, and Souza.

We did send over a draft to you. We did make the change to one extension agent, and we are still awaiting for--

Yes, correct.

So can we roll this over to tomorrow? 1:50 too, tomorrow?

Okay, so Senate Bill 865.

Friday. Yeah.

So Senate Bill 865, Thursday, April 24th at 1:50 [50] p.m. Okay? Thank you. Okay. And stop 3:10, so I think we can transition right into our 3:10 agenda. Perfect timing. That was by design.

You're so smart.

Okay, let's see. Reconvening on two House bills. House Bill 3, relating to beach management on the North Shore of Oahu. For the House, myself and Reps Hashem and Lamosao, Co-Chairs, and member Shimizu.

For the Senate, we have myself, as Chair Hashimoto, Co-Chair, Fevella as Member.

Okay, thank you. So, this one we did receive release from Finn and you from when?

Well, did get the release from where Finn? But I don't see Hashimoto here. Do we need him in here?

Yeah. Okay. Shall we just move on to the next bill?

Somebody try and get him or tell him his other bills are dead.

We're going to revote on his Maui College Nursing bill.

Nursing bill, which is the next item on the agenda.

So, while we await Senator Hashimoto, if I can just make a quick announcement on the CD1 for HB 3. Essentially just cleaning up the effective date. So, it does, will take effect on June 30, 2025. We did reach out to Sea Grant to see what kind of -

I'm sorry, but it extends the reporting as well, right?

Oh, yes. I'm sorry. Yes. Excuse me. Yes, that's correct. So, it does extend it to December 1, 2026, in terms of the deadline. And then with a clean effective date; just for your information, Senator, we did reach out to Sea Grant regarding the status of this. Of the million-dollar appropriation, they've only expended about 50,000.

So uh, if they're listening or in the room, just encouraging them to make progress on this because it seems unlikely, we'll extend it again this time next year. So please get going on this one.

Okay.

Okay. Since we have Senator Hashimoto here, may we proceed with the vote?

Please?

Okay, so members, voting on House Bill 3 HD 2 SD 1, a conference draft. [Roll Call]. Thank you. May I take the vote for the Senate? [Roll Call].

Co-Chair Hashimoto. And Member Fevella. Thank you. We have a bill. Okay, so we'll move on to the next bill on the 310 agenda. It's House Bill 442 HD1SD1 relating to the University of Hawaii. For the House, myself and Rep. Olds as Co-Chairs Members Miyake and Sayama.

And Souza and for the Senate, myself as chair Hashimoto co chair and favela zar Member.

Okay, thank you Senator. So we did circulate a CD one but thank you for reaching out to Wham to double check the figures. In this build in this understanding there is some funding that was rolled into House Bill 300 the Budget Bill.

So we just need to clarify that there might have been an insufficient amount in one of the UOH items. So can we roll this one?

Yeah. Can I just ask a question? Yeah, sure. Is that the amount for the nursing.

Center? Kim the 442 number. Now we do the total four positions. West WA. In 300 already.

Okay, so it's approximately 215 and it's just for the West Oahu. Correct. Is it the portion of Section 4? Section 2. Section 4 is for the nursing pre nursing pathway program. Right. So not the Section 2 which is the other portion that was in the budget.

Not sure which section two is.

It was the Manoa West Oahu nursing collaboration phase three. So that's in the budget. Okay, so we're just looking at that.

So okay, so we'll circulate a new CD one reflecting that change. So can we roll this one over.

To please tomorrow at 1:50.

Okay, so House Bill 442 deferring till Thursday April 24th at 1:50. That's 5:00pm in room 229. Thank you. So we will adjourn this and have to wait six minutes for the 320 agenda. Thank you. Now convening a conference Committee on two higher education bills. Today is Wednesday April 23rd, 2025, 3:20pm in room 229.

Up first we have House Bill 1320 HD1ST1 relating to education. Myself and Rep. Olds as Co-Chairs, Member Souza.

For the Senate, myself as Chair, Wakai Co-Chair and Fevella Member.

Okay, thank you Senator. So this is a bill that establishes a database for uh. To release information on graduate outcomes. This one we are preparing a CD one for your consideration. So may we roll this one over to. Can we go tomorrow?

Thursday 158.50 and 4.

Yes. So House Bill 1320 Thursday 4/24 at 1:50pm in room 229. Thank you. And then next is the Senate Bill.

Senate Bill 1146 relating to the Alawai Canal. Chairs, Members conferees are myself as Kim Chair, Inouye Moriwaki and Fevella Member.

Thank you Senator. For the House myself and Rep. Statham and Olds as Co-Chairs, Member Olds and Souza.

Okay, Mr. Chair, we're going to be putting together a CD1, and I'm glad to see Senator Moriwaki here. So is it the SD1 draft?

HD draft? There's a. The HD one's fine, but it's. There's additional information that's come in. Okay.

Can you be sure to get that to my staff? Because we called your office and didn't get anything. So we can go ahead and get adjusted. Otherwise, we can defer. She was like, defer. And I was definitely, what? Tomorrow? Yes. So we will go 150 tomorrow as well. Thank you. And with that, we are adjourned until tomorrow.

Okay, see you then. Thank you.

Good afternoon and welcome.

This is our Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025, 1:30 PM agenda in Conference Room 224. We are reconvening on Senate Commerce and Consumer Protection Committee bills with our colleagues from the House Consumer Protection and Commerce Committee. First up, the House Bill. I yield to the Chair.

Thank you, Chair. First up we have HB 70, HD 1, SD 1, relating to condominiums. This relates to the budget summaries, replacement reserves, compliance, and enforcement. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Todd as co-chairs, Representatives Iwamoto and Pierick as managers.

And on behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Rhoads, co-chair, Fukunaga McKelvey, Awa, Members.

I believe we do have agreement on this Bill. We're still working on CD 1. We are going to be keeping the good faith exception in there for you. We'll get to the CD 1 soon. Why don't we roll this one 24 hours to tomorrow, 4/23, 1:30 PM agenda in conference room 224?

Yes, thank you.

Thank you. Next up we have HB 850, HD 1, SD 1, relating to condominiums. This is for electronic meetings, electronic voting, cumulative voting. On behalf of the House, myself as chair and Representatives Chun and Pierick as managers.

On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, McKelvey, co-chair, Fevella, member.

I understand. We're still trying to work out some details on this Bill. Why don't we roll it one day, 1:30 agenda, on 4/24 in room 224?

Yes. Thank you.

Thank you. Next up we have eight—oh, I'm sorry. SB. Back to you.

Okay. For Senate on Senate Bill 752, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1, relating to insurance. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Senator McKelvey as co-chair, Senator Awa as a member.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself as chair, Representatives Chun and Pierick as managers.

I believe there is a revised CD 1 in circulation, with an SMA-1 footnote. Has that been circulated to?

Yes, I believe we have—we got the SD 1. Yeah.

There was one circulated yesterday as well.

Yeah, I think we're okay with this Bill, but I don't have a note on it. Can we take a brief recess?

Sure.

Reconvening.

Yeah, that's right. We wanted that certified mail language taken out. I can't remember if it was in the new CD. Was a second CD drafted and circulated?

It's the one that is SB 752, CD 1, SMA-1.

Okay, I think we're going to need to take a look then. I'm not sure I've had a chance to review, but I appreciate you taking out the certified mail language. Why don't we hopefully vote on this tomorrow then? You want to roll 24 hours? I'm sorry, I'm not running this one. 4/24, 1:30 PM agenda in 224.

Is that okay with you, Chair? Thank you. This mic's not working. Oh, they can't hear anything. Tech. Oh, it's gone. That's bad. He's right there.

All right, Gia, how are we on the mics? We're getting some feedback in the room that the mics might not be working. I can hear myself.

The audio sounds good. Thank you.

Yeah, I think. I think this mic is working inside the room, but are they saying they can't hear it on the stream? Okay, they're saying they can't hear it on the stream.

Okay. They have it on mute. Yeah.

Testing, testing. Senate position. Yeah, we're good. Okay.

Defer test. Defer.

Can we, can we move on?

Yeah, let's move on.

Okay. Last measure on this agenda: SB 1048 SD 2 HD 2, relating to solicitation, solicitation of funds from the public. On behalf of the Senate: myself as chair, Rhoads, co chair, Awa, member.

Yeah. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Takenouchi as co-chairs, Representatives Iwamoto and Pierick as managers.

Chair, I believe we have agreement. Have you--

We do. I don't have my FIN member.

And I do not have quorum.

Okay. Roll it.

Would you like to roll till tomorrow?

Yeah, let's roll it. I like this bill.

Okay, 1:30 p.m. tomorrow, April 24th--thank you--2025, in Conference Room 224.

224. Okay.

Okay. We're adjourned.

We're reconvening on this Wednesday, April 23rd, 20251:31pm Agenda and conference from 2 to 4. First measure on this agenda is Senate Bill 102. Senate Draft 2, House Draft 2, relating to restaurants. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Senator Rhoads, Co-Chair Fukunaga, McKelvey, Awa Members.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Todd as Co-Chairs and Representative Pierick as manager.

Okay. I believe we have distributed a conference draft one that you are in.

We are in agreement with the conference draft one. So I think we're ready to vote on this one.

Okay, great. Standby for vote sheets. We'll get this one out of the way. Okay. The recommendation, House and Senate concurring is to pass Senate Bill 102 SD2HD2 with amendments.

[Roll call]

I just sound like a charge for try to confuse.

That's why I didn't say anything.

Thank you.

Okay, so the next measure on the agenda is SB825SD2HD2 relating to eviction mediation. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Hashimoto, Rhoads Co-Chairs, Fukunaga McKelvey, Members.

On behalf of the House we have myself, Representatives Poepoe and Takenouchi as Co-Chairs. Representative Chun and Pierick as managers.

Chair. I believe we have conferred on a conference draft and made requests to the money committees for release.

That's correct. I still don't have been released. I'm not sure if you have one release, but I'm not ready to go on this one.

Can we defer action on this until tomorrow? And why don't we just consolidate everything onto the 1:30pm agenda in 224 here tomorrow, Wednesday, April. Thursday April 24, 2025. Thank you.

Sounds good.

Okay, next Bill is Senate Bill 1044 SD2HD2 relating to the stabilization of property insurance. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Moriwaki Co-Chair, Fukunaga McKelvey Awa Members.

Members, behalf of the House we have myself and Representative Yamashita as Co-Chairs. Representatives Chun, Tam and Pierick as managers. Thank you Chair and thank you for your work on this.

We are still at work on a conference draft.

Just to read everyone in, there were some provisions relating to the language of the appropriation and the use of General obligation bonds, reimbursable General obligation bonds to provide funding access to the HPIA so that they can begin their programming that we wanted to just make sure that we have correct.

And we also do need to secure Finance and Ways and Means approval on this measure. Okay, can we defer action on this until tomorrow at 1:30pm in Conference Room 2 to 4? That's good. Okay. And on this 1:31pm agenda will return. Okay, convening our 1:35pm agenda. It's Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025 in Conference Room 224.

First measure is a House Bill and our lead chair is sitting down right now. Sorry. If you need a second.

No, I'm good. HB 420, HD 3, SD 2, related to remedies. On behalf of the House, there's myself, Representatives Matayoshi and Tarnas as co-chairs, and Representative Miyake as manager.

And for the Senate, myself as chair, Senator Rhoads, co-chair, Fukunaga, Richards, Awa, members.

So, this Bill clarifies the applicability of the statute of repose to apply to contract, tort, and statutory claims. Clarifies the required contents of a notice of claim of a construction defect served on a contractor. Clarifies the process and time frame by which a claimant may accept or reject a contractor's offer to settle and authorize repairs.

And clarifies the mediation process for construction defect claims. Clarifies the statute of limitation or response for construction defect claims. I believe we have agreement on moving forward on the latest draft of the Bill, SD 2, and make it effective upon approval. And if you're in agreement, I think we're ready to vote.

We are.

Sounds good. In that case, we'll go ahead and take the vote.

[Roll Call]

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you. We will move on to the next measure, SB 08. Okay. SB 1220. Senate draft 2. House draft 1 relating to renewable gas tariff. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Senators Wakai and Kanuha Co-Chairs, Richards Awa, Members.

On behalf of the House, myself as Chair, Co-Chairs Marioshi and Takenouchi, managers Perruso and Pierick.

I believe. I think we're waiting. Yeah. As soon as we have a Senate draft prepared, then we will send that over for your review. Can we reconvene on this tomorrow at 1:30pm here in conference room 224? Yes. Okay, thank you very much. Okay. And the next measure is SB 1500. Senate draft 2.

House Draft 1, relating to electric utilities. On behalf of the Senate: myself as chair, Wakai, co-chair, Richards, Awa, members.

And on behalf of the House, myself as chair, Co-Chair Sayama, Matayoshi, Takenouchi, and Manager Reyes Oda.

Okay, thank you, chair. I believe we have agreement on this and we're also in the process of drafting a CD for your review.

Okay, sounds good. And we still need FIN WAM with these as well, so...

Oh yeah. That's right.

So reconvene tomorrow, 1:35 p.m. here as well?

With your indulgence, we--I'd like to move these all to the 1:30 agenda, if you're okay with that.

Should be fine. Yes.

Okay.

Thank you.

Let's do it.

Okay. Thank you.

And well done. We're adjourned.

Convenient conference on Senate Bill 1365, House Draft 1 relating to the interstate medical License Share Compact. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chairman, Co-Chair and Member Awa.

Thank you, Chair. On behalf of the House, myself, Representatives Chun and Lee-Loy as Co-Chairs and Representative Amato and Alcos as managers.

Yes, I believe we are waiting for Wham and Finn still. We are. So can we defer to tomorrow at 1:45pm here in this room?

That would be perfect.

Conference room 224. Thank you.

Thank you, Chair.

Okay, moving to Senate Bill 1373. Senate Draft 2. House Draft 2 relating to administrative licensure actions against sex offenders. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Senator San Buenaventura Co-Chair and Member Awa.

Thank you, Senator. On behalf of the House, myself and Rep. Perruso as Chair and Representative Pierick as manager.

Okay. I don't believe we have quorum at the moment, so. We do. There she is. Okay. Ready to hear for a while. Sorry, the longest name. Okay. I believe we circulated a proposed CD1 to all of the parties. Yes. And we would be willing to proceed with the vote. Yeah.

And we're in agreement with the CD1, so I. It just goes back to the SC2 version which DCCA is. Okay. And puts in an effective date of July 1, 2025. Thank you. Thank you.

[Roll call]

Yes, please.

[Roll call]

Thank you. Sorry about that. Thank you.

On the half of the Senate convening Senate Bill 1367, Senate draft 1. House draft run relating to installment loans. On behalf of the the Senate, myself as Chair, Senator Richards as Co-Chair, Member Awa.

On behalf of the House, it's myself and Representative Takenouchi as Co-Chairs, Representative Pierick as managers. And this is for the 140 agenda in conference room 224.

Okay, thank you. I believe we circulated a proposed CD, but it does not appear that we really have an agreement. So can we defer this to tomorrow?

Yeah, I'm okay to bring it to tomorrow. The main issue that we're discussing is whether the convenience fee should be or what. What amount that should be set at. And House's position is it should be set at a dollar. We actually think that's kind of even a little high.

But we'll take a look at your CD and get back to you.

Okay, thank you very much. Reconvening tomorrow at 1:40pm in conference room 224.

Thank you. Thank you.

Aloha Kakou. We are here for the convening of a conference Committee meeting on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2025. The time is our 2:15 agenda notice and we're in Conference Room 2 to 4. Today we are opening on House Bill 1291 HD2SD1 relating to agriculture.

Here representing the House is Kahaloa, Matayoshi and Poepoe as Co-Chairs and Kusch and Pierick as managers.

Senator on the Senate side, thank you. Myself Richards as Chairman. Senator Gabbard is Co-Chair. Keohokalole, McKelvey, and Awa as Members.

Thank you, Senator. So with this bill we have agreement and I'll just read the description. Extends the offense of false labeling of Hawaii ground coffee to include roasted coffee.

And in the CD1 proposed draft that all conferees received, we had two changes that I'm going to go over quickly on page 4 in the penalty section, line 7 to 13 we changed adjusted language.

In addition to any penalties imposed pursuant to section 706605 the court shall impose on any defendant convicted of false labeling of Hawaii grown coffee to a mandatory minimum fine of 7,500 for each separate offense. Each act of false labeling of Hawaii grown coffee shall constitute a decision distinct and separate offense.

The mandatory minimum fine and post shall not be suspended or waived. That was an adjustment from original House draft Bill and then negotiated to where we sit today. We also made one additional amendment taking the effective date to July 1st, 2025. Senator, we are still in agreement on this measure?

We're still in agreement.

Thank you. May we vote on this measure?

By all means.

Please may I take the vote today? Okay. What time is it? Because apparently we need to accurate time. I was told later. Okay. Yeah. So we are voting on HB 1291 HE2SD1CD1 and the recommendation is to pass with amendments. [Vote]

[Vote]

Thank you Rep.

No more agenda items on this hearing notice. Thank you Members. We are adjourned.

We are reconvening the Conference Committee on Consumer Protection and Commerce and the Committee--Subcommittee on Commerce and Consumer Protection. It is the 2:30 agenda in Conference Room 224. Today is Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025. First up on the agenda, we have HB--so strange to hear the echo like that.

First up on the agenda we have HB 939 HD 1 SD 2, relating to alcohol. This is a liquor tax alcohol bill and also adjusts the volume of spirit beverages. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Takenouchi as co-chairs, Representative Pierick as a manager.

On behalf of the Senate: myself as chair, Wakai co-chair, McKelvey, Richards, Fevella, members.

Yeah, and we just sent over a CD 1, so I doubt you had time to look at it yet, but basically House's position is to raise the tax amount a little bit--I'll let you take a look--and then to give him another 10,000 barrels just for malt. But why don't we, why don't we roll it?

Okay.

Oops. It's this one. All right. 230 agenda. 424. 230 agenda in room 224. Okay, thank you. Next up we have HB 1052 HD1SC1 relating to the universal Services. The Universal Service Program. This is just for the Universal Service Program. Telecommunications for print disabilities. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Takenouchi as Co-Chairs.

Representatives Iwamoto and Pierick as managers.

Thank you. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair. Senators Hashimoto and Kanuha as co chairs. Senator AWA as Member.

Again, I believe we have agreement on this bill, but we're waiting for fin. Wham Release. Do you have WAM release by chance or. Okay. And we do not have FIN either. If it's okay with you, why don't we roll this 24 hours to 4:24 at 2:30pm in conference room 224.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you. All right, 2:30 tomorrow. Last item on the agenda, HB 1055 HD1SD1 relating or making an emergency appropriation to the Public Utilities Commission. This is for the public utilities to basically hire consultants to do wildfire mitigation things. On behalf of the House we have myself and Representative Takenouchi as Co-Chairs and Representative Pierick as Manager.

On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair. Senators Wakai and Aquino as Co-Chairs. Senator Richards and Awa as Members.

Okay, and on this one I believe we have agreement. And I believe we have fin Wham release too. So why don't we vote yes? All right. So the recommendation of the House and Senate managers is to pass this with amendments. Chair Matayoshi votes yes. Representative Takenouchi Pierick. No. Okay. Okay. I may take the vote for the Senate.

Senator Keohokalole, I'm sorry. This is the old vote sheet. Do we need a new vote sheet for this? Because the wrong Senators are not here. They changed it recently. Let me just cross it out. Okay. Okay.

[Vote]

Thank you.

And that's it. We are joined.

All right.

We are reconvening conference committees. And right now we are at Conference Room 224. It's Wednesday, April 233:20pm and starting off with HB 1370 relating to taxation, we have House Confries. Myself as Chair. Matayoshi, Takenouchi, Chun, Holt and Matsumoto as managers.

On behalf of the Senate, myself is Chair. Wakai Co-Chair. Awa Member.

Chair, we have our CD1, but we're still waiting for Finn and Wam release. Can we roll this over for tomorrow? Same time, same place? Yes, we can. Thank you.

Yes.

Do you want to recess? Okay, we'll recess.

Convening today's conference on Senate Bill 332. Senate Draft 1. House Draft 3 relating to foreclosures in Conference Room 224. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair. Senator Chang as Co-Chair and Members McKelvey and Richards are present.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Chun and Poepoe as Co-Chairs and Representative Grandinetti and Representative Muraoka as manager.

We have had a chance to review your proposed CD1 and I believe we are ready to vote.

Great. That sounds good. With us. Could we read the description of the bill and, or do you mind if I read it and clarify what the amendments are for the CD1 before we take the vote?

I believe for the amendments that we received, it was pretty much adding in a correct effective date.

Yeah, at this point. So yeah, just Moving forward, the HDD3 with a clean date. And if you don't mind, if I could just briefly read the description of the bill.

SB332 prohibits sellers of mortgage properties in a power of sale foreclosure from bundling properties at a public sale and requires each mortgage property to be bid on [unintelligible]. Specifies that the sale of a foreclosed property is not final until the earliest of either.

15 days after the public sale if an eligible bidder submits a subsequent bid or written notice of intent to submit a sequent bid, or 45 days after the public sale if an eligible bidder submits a subsequent bid. And again, so that'd be.

I think the agreement we have is moving forward with the latest draft of the HD3 with a clean date.

Thank you.

Thank you, Senator.

[Vote]

Yes, please.

[Vote]

Thank you so much.

We're reconvening the conference Committee for Consumer Protection and Commerce and Commerce and Consumer Protection. It is Wednesday, April 23, 2025, 3:30pm in Conference Room 224. Just one item on the agenda today. HB544HD1SD1 relating to PET insurance. This is just establishing a pet insurance regulation regime.

On behalf of the House, we have myself as Chair and Representatives Chun and Pierrick as managers.

And on behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair. Senator Rhoads Co-Chair. Senators Fukunaga, Richards and Awa, Members.

[Vote]

Thank you very much. Thank you. We're adjourned.

Good afternoon, Chair. We are opening a conference Committee on Wednesday, April 23, 2025, 1:30pm in Conference Room 016. First up, we have House Bill 1296, House Draft 1, Senate Draft 1. On our side, it's myself, Representative Iwamoto here as Manager, and Representatives Lamasao and Morikawa and Souza excused. For House Bill 1296, House Draft 1, Senate Draft 1.

Okay, thank you, Chair. On behalf of the Senate is Senator Elefante as Chair, Co-Chair Hashimoto, Members Wakai and DeCorte.

Chair, we passed across a CD1 that addresses and removes budget and finance again, as we described, from the reporting process, adds in the Governor and make sure it's DOD is. Is working with that for the reporting. And then we're taking a look at the impact of Act 10 from 2024. So we have language across to you.

Can I suggest that we roll this over to tomorrow? Thursday, April 24, 1:30pm, same room.

Before we continue on that, just to make sure we have the correct proposed CD. It's on the footer. I have HB 1296, CD1, HMSO proposed. Is that what you have? Okay, so we have the right that I haven't had time to take a look at that.

So if it's okay with you, Chair, I agree with the rollover till what you propose.

Absolutely. Let's go ahead and do that.

Which would be tomorrow.

Yes. Thursday, April 24, 2025, 1:30pm here in this conference room.

That works for us. Thank you.

Thank you. Moving on to House Bill 1064 relating to fire protection. On our side, it's myself, Representative Takayama as Manager, Representatives Tarnas, Lamasao and Souza excused.

And on behalf of the Senate, it's Senator Elefante as Chair. Co-Chairs Aquino, Chris Lee Rhoads, and Member Wakai and DeCorte.

Chair, yesterday I passed across the corrected comparison sheet. We had numerous memos roll in. I have a draft that was prepared by our HMSO staff. Just got it. It's hot off the presses, so if you could review this.

Yes, you're right. Still hot.

It's warm. It's literally.

Thank you for the hard copy, but could you also send us a digital as well?

Yes. I wanted to be sure that you had hard copies. But yes, following this, I will follow.

Up with the thank you and we'll make sure we get this to our Members.

If I can explain just briefly, what are the highlights of this? As I pointed out yesterday, we had three kind of big policy areas. We are kind of still conversing on our side.

So what you will see in this draft as to the first policy question as to where the state Fire Marshal is going to be placed, that is still left blank. And I believe there is conversations about it being in your position is Department of Law Enforcement, but there is still the option of DoD or the Governor's office.

So that is blank in this. In this version we are working off of the SD2. We adopted many of the corrections or, or this SD2 position from the comparison chart. I wanted to comment on language that we had picked up from the AGs Attorney Generals from previous testimony concerning the transition until 1-21-26.

So we've adopted some of that language so that we can make sure that anyone who might be hired under I believe it's Act 209 will then be able to stay on and then it will carry over and transition with the Commission taking, becoming active following that and that person being able to stay on.

So that language we adopted, we took the language from the AGs from salaries and expenses from their memo that was provided to us on that. Instead of the advisory board, we adopted the Senate's position for the State Fire Marshal Selection Commission. And I think moving forward we also moved the state Wildfire Mapping, which had been a.

Something that we had tasked the State Fire Marshal office to do, to a discretionary task. We move that into discretionary tax. Something else that got picked up in this that I have not had a chance to talk with you, Chair, but it's.

It's partially in here, is that your draft created a special Fund that is similar to a special Fund that is moving in Senate Bill 223. In 223, it's called the Community Fuels Reduction Project and a Fund that was created there.

What I would propose is that we strip the special Fund out of this and there's still some language in here remaining at page 12. The Community Risk reduction program that we might want to remove from from this. Again, work in progress. So I'm just putting this forward to you.

And then finally when you look at the appropriation section at the very back, because I removed that creation of that special Fund and that special program, those appropriation portions are removed.

And then I did the cleanup to ensure that we have General Funds to fund the State Fire Marshal as well as operation costs and expenses of the office.

And I think that will help clean this bill up and make it really focus on ensuring that we have a functioning state office of the State Fire Marshal lots to handle. But I hope that this is something that we can Continue to discuss.

Yes. And thank you, Chair, especially for your hard work and all the others that have worked really hard on this bill. It's a very important bill, as you know. There's a lot to go over.

And thank you for your hard work in terms of addressing some of the concerns currently in Act 209 to what's proposed here and as well as some of the funding issues. My understanding is this is the only bill relating to Fire Marshal. We'll take a look at it. I would also stress the importance of.

I think the Senate position is to keep it under the Department of Law Enforcement. I know that shifted a lot from governors to DOD to now DLE, but basically that would just give enforcement powers to DLE to be able to support and assist the Office of the Fire Marshal. So I know you have that currently blank.

So hopefully we can come to a compromise on that.

Yes, I hope so, too. Yeah.

Okay. Would you like to give us a few if we tomorrow. Absolutely. Yes.

Yes. I suspect this might be going to Friday since it does have finance and Wham. But let's go to Thursday, April 24, 1:30pm here in this.

And then what we'll do, Madam Chair, is we will after review it and if the CD looks fine or if we need to make changes, then we can proceed with a wampin release memo for this.

Sounds good.

Okay. That works for us till. I'm sorry, did you say Friday or the 24th?

No, Thursday, April 23rd, 1:30pm here in this conference room. 24th, April 24th. Yes.

Thursday, 1:30. Yep. Okay. That works for us.

And I think that's it for this agenda. Yep.

We are adjourned. Thank you. Great afternoon, everyone.

I apologize for the delayed start. We are opening up conference. It is Wednesday, April 23, 2025. This is a joint House and Senate conference Committee. 1:45pm Agenda in room 16. We only have one item on this agenda, which is SB 104, Senate draft 2, House draft 3 relating to corrections.

On behalf of the Senate, Senator Elefante as Chair. Co-Chairs Rhoads and Moriwaki. Members Fukunaga and Fevella.

On our side we have myself, Representative Tarnas, Lamasao as Co-Chairs. And Representatives Tarnas and Lamasao are excused. And Representatives Hashem, Iwamoto, Souza, who are managers. And with us today are Representatives Hashem and Iwamoto.

Thank you so much, Chair. We have worked on a proposed CD1 draft that we sent to you digitally. I have hard copies to send to you. And if I could, I'll just Go over some summary of highlights on the proposed conference draft that's before you in the proposed new section to Chapter 353HRS.

Subsections A, B and C that will be effective on July 1, 2026. The working group language becomes effective on July 1, 2025. So that keeps the House version and folks of what you suggested with the rest of this session law and will still convene on August 1, 2025.

Then the working group will dissolve and must report to the Legislature by January 8, 2027. So those are some highlights on that. And thank you so much for your work, Chair and the co chairs on this Committee and the Members as well for your hard work in incorporating different suggested language for that.

So have a look at that and I know we would. If that looks good to you, then we can request and prepare a memo to Wham and Fin. If you're okay with this, would you like to roll over till tomorrow, Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 1:30pm in Conference Room 16.

I think that works and thank you Chair for working on this draft. I know that this has been a long standing issue for many in our community, so I really appreciate the work that's been done on this. I appreciate that you're willing to work on a working group that I helped to create in this draft.

But I do think it's going to help advance the policy and make sure that we can have more of a rehabilitative kind of model in our prison system. So thank you Chair for working on this and we will definitely take a look at this.

Okay. And the rollover day and time works for you?

That that does. Thursday tomorrow 140, 1:30pm here in this room.

Okay, that sounds great.

We are adjourned.

Good afternoon. We're reconvening on the conference. Joint Conference Committee. It is Wednesday, April 232025 3pm we're in Conference Room 16. On the agenda we have HB 806H1SD1 relating to fireworks for the House. We have myself, Rep. Todd, Rep. Lee as Co-Chairs. Garrett, Souza as managers.

And on behalf of the Senate, Senator Elephante as chair, co Chair, Senator Rhodes, Senator Kim, Members Wakai and Favela.

Okay, I believe we do have agreement on the CD1 as well as Finn Wham release. Is that correct?

Yeah, we have Wham release. Yep.

Okay, great. I'll be taking the vote. zero, I guess before I do take that vote, I just want to read aloud that the CD1 includes appropriations for fiscal years 26 of 2.5 million. $1.0 million. 2 million for the sting, the lab for DLE, and 500,000 for the sting operations.

And $500,000 in fiscal year 27 for sting operations as well. And has a clean date.

Yep. And we're in agreement with that. And thank you, Chair, for your hard work on this.

[Roll call]

Awesome. Thank you. We are adjourned.

Good morning. I'd like to call to order the joint Towson Senate Conference Committee hearing for Wednesday, April 23 for our 10:00am agenda. It is currently 10:03 and we are in room conference room 224. We have one item on the agenda, HB606HD1SD1 relating to the Department of Hawaiian Homelands. We are still working on this draft. Oh, sorry.

Yeah, sorry. On behalf of the House we have myself, Representative Poipo and Representative Miyake as co chairs and Representatives Grandanetti and Moro Oka as managers.

Thank you. And on the Senate side we have. Chair is myself, Senator Richards and Chang, Hashimoto as co chairs and ... as a Member.

Thank you. And yeah, so we're still working on this Bill and if it's agreeable to you, Senator Richards, if we could roll this over till 2pm tomorrow in room three. That sounds good. All right, we'll see you guys all tomorrow. Seeing no further business. This hearing is now adjourned.

Good morning and welcome to the 10:30 AM agenda of the Housing Committees. Our first measure on today's agenda is Senate Bill 1263, relating to historic preservation. Conferees from the Senate are myself as chair, co-chair Senator Rhoads and conferee Senator Fevella.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Tarnas and Lamosao as co-chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Thank you. So, I believe we have agreement on the CD 1. The CD 1 would make the effective date July 1st, 2025, move the complete submittal definition to Section 60-2. It would also change the word "provide" to "submit" on page 17, line 7, and would also make some technical, non-substantive amendments.

Yes, and if you wouldn't—if I could read the description of the Bill real quick also. So, SB 1263 amends the procedures and required information for the Department of Land and Natural Resources' historic preservation review of proposed state projects, privately owned historic property, and other proposed projects that require entitlement for use.

Establishes procedures for the review of Transit-Oriented Development and identified by the counties and HCDA or HHFDC.

Okay, great.

And yes, I have agreement with your proposal.

Thank you. So, Chair's recommendation for SB 1263 will be to pass with amendments.

[Roll Call]

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Next item on the agenda is HB4 22 HD1 SD2 related to school impact fees. On behalf of the House we have myself and Representative Miyake as co Chairs and Representative Perruso and Muraoka as managers.

Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co Chair Senators Kim and Kidani and managers Senators Hashimoto and Kanuma.

And we on this bill have agreement but we're waiting on pin release. So if we could roll this over to 10:30 tomorrow, same room 224. Does that work with you?

Yes. Thank you.

All right, next Bill is HB 740 HD2 SD2 related to housing. On behalf of the House we have myself and Representatives Poepoe and Miyake as Co-Chairs, and Representative Grandinetti and Muraoka as Managers.

Senate conferees are myself as Chair, Senator Hashimoto as Co-Chair and Manager Senator Fevella.

We have no agreement on this Bill. So if you're agreeable to it, we could roll this over to tomorrow, same time, same place.

Sure.

All right, next item on the agenda is HB432, HD1, SD2 relating to the Rental Housing Revolving Fund. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Senator conferees are myself as chair, Senator Hashimoto as co-chair, and managers Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

Thank you. And on this bill, we also have agreement, but we are waiting on FIN and WAM I believe, for release. So, if it's okay with you if we could roll this over tomorrow, same time same place.

Sounds good. For Senate Bill 576 relating to Financial Administration. Conferees are myself as chair, co-chair Senator Hashimoto, and managers Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Okay, so I believe we do have agreement on a CD one, but we don't have quorum here on our Senate side. So, can we reconvene on this bill at the end of our 10:32 a.m. agenda?

Yes.

Sounds good.

Okay, so we'll be reconvening on this bill in this room 224 at the end of our 10:32 a.m. agenda.

Senate Bill 572, relating to housing. Senate conferees are myself as chair, co-chair Senator Hashimoto, and managers Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

And away from the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

And again, I believe we have agreement on a CD 1, and we do have WAM release, but we don't have quorum here. So, let's reconvene on this measure at the end of our 10:32 agenda in this room, 224.

Sounds good.

Our next bill is Senate Bill 1229 relating to the dwelling unit revolving Fund. Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co Chair Senator Hashimoto and managers Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

And on behalf of the House there is myself and Representative Miyake as co Chairs and Representative Pierick as manager.

And so for this measure we're still drafting the CD1 so why don't we roll this until tomorrow at the same time 10:30 a.m. in this room. 224.

Sounds good.

Thank you.

Okay, our next measure is Senate Bill 65 relating to housing. Senate conferees are myself as chair, co-chair Senator Hashimoto, and managers Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

And on behalf of the House, there's myself and Representative Miyake as co-chairs and Representative Pierick as manager.

Okay, again, I believe we have agreement on a CD1, and we do not have quorum here on the Senate side. So why don't we reconvene on this bill at the end of our 10:32 a.m. agenda in this room?

Sounds good. And then the last item on the agenda is HB529, oh sorry, HB529, HD1, SD1 relating to state finances. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-chairs and Representative Pierick as a manager.

And the Senate conferees are myself as chair, co-chair Senator Hashimoto, and managers Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

All right. Seeing no further business, this hearing is now adjourned.

Yeah, and on this bill, we also do not have quorum on the Senate side, so if it's agreeable to you, we'll do the same as the other bills. We'll reconvene at the end of the 10:32 agenda in this room 224.

Sounds good.

Good morning. It's 10:40 AM and we are now convening the 10:31 AM agenda for several conference committees of the House and Senate Housing committees. Our first measure is Senate Bill 38, relating to housing. Senate conferees are myself as chair, co chair Senator Rhoads, and managers, Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

And on behalf of the House, there's myself and Representative Tarnas as co-chairs, and Representatives La Chica, Miyake, and Muraoka as managers.

Okay. So, I think we're still in the process of negotiating and drafting the CD 1, so why don't we reconvene on this measure tomorrow at 10:31 AM, at this room, 224?

Sounds good.

Thank you. Our next item is SB26 SD2 HD2 relating to affordable housing. Senate conferees are myself as Chair co Chair Senator Inouye and Senator Hashimoto and Manager Senator Fevella.

And on behalf of the House we have myself and Representatives Hashim and Miyake as co Chairs and Representatives La Chica and Muraoka as managers.

So for this measure, I believe we shared CD1 with you and I don't know if you've had a chance to take a look at it yet. So given that that's the case, we can reconvene on this measure tomorrow at 10:31 a.m. in this room. 224.

Yep, that'd be great.

Thank you. And our final, final measure on this agenda, is SB 662, relating to transportation. Senate conferees are myself as chair, co-chairs Senators Elefante and Lee, and Manager Senator Fevella.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Kila, Todd, and Miyake as co-chairs, and Representative Muroaka as manager.

I believe we have agreement on a CD 1, but we don't have WAM release yet, so.

And we don't have FIN release, but we do have agreement.

Great. So, why don't we reconvene at 10:31 tomorrow, in this room 224?

Sounds good. Thank you.

Thank you. There being no further business on this agenda, this meeting is adjourned.

Good morning. I'd like to call to order the joint House and Senate conference Committee hearing for Wednesday, April 23, 2025. We are on our 1032 agenda and we're in Conference Room 224. First item on the agenda is HP1409HD1SD1 related transit oriented development.

On behalf of the House we have myself, Representative Hashim and Representative Miyake as Co-Chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Thank you. And Senate conferees are myself as Chair, Co-Chairs Senators Inouye and Hashimoto and Manager Senator Fevella.

And we have agreement on this bill, but we are waiting for fin release.

That's right.

So if we could reconvene tomorrow 1032 in the same room, would that work for you?

Yes.

Great.

Our next measure is Senate Bill 66, relating to housing. Senate conferees are myself as chair, Senator Gabbard as co-chair, and Senator Fevella as manager.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Lamasao and Tarnas as co-chairs and Representatives Miyake and Pierick as managers.

So for this measure, I believe we're still negotiating our CD1. So why don't we reconvene on this bill tomorrow at 10:32am in this room 224. Sounds good. Okay, our next measure is Senate Bill 944 relating to the low income housing tax credit. Senate conferees are myself as Chair, co Chair, Senator Hashimoto and managers, Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co chairs and Representative Pierick as manager.

And I believe we've agreed upon a CD1, but we still don't have wam release. Yes. So why don't we reconvene on this bill tomorrow at 10:32 a.m. in this room 224.

Sounds good.

Okay. And that brings us to the bills that we deferred to the end of the 1032 agenda. SB65, SB576, SB572 and HB529. I think we're still waiting on quorum for those measures. So why don't we recess and then reconvene when we get quorum?

Sounds good. All right, we're in recess.

Good morning. It's 10:47 AM. We are reconvening, or we're back from recess on the 10:32 AM agenda of several conference committee—several conference committees. Our first is Senate Bill 1263—sorry, we already did that one. Senate Bill 576.

Okay, so for Senate Bill 576, again, the Senate conferees are myself as chair, co-chair, Senator Hashimoto, and conferees, Senators Kanuha and Fevellla.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Miyake as co-chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Okay, so we're ready to vote on this one. The CD 1 has a clean date. This Bill amends the required contents of legislative reports to be submitted by PHA and HHFDC and amends the scope of monies to be deposited into and the allowable use of monies expended from the public housing space special fund.

Sounds good on our end.

Okay, and we do have WAM release.

And we do have FIN release.

We have FIN release.

Okay, great. So, shall we take the vote?

Yes, please.

[Roll Call]

Okay, the motion is adopted. We have a bill.

Thank you.

And Manager Muraoka.

Thank you. Our next measure is Senate Bill 572 relating to housing.

Aye.

Aye.

It adds loan funds administered by nonprofit community development financial institutions for certain for-sale affordable housing projects to the list of loan priorities for the Affordable Homeownership Revolving Fund, expands the use of monies in the Revolving Fund to allow financing as matching funds for CDFIs to mobilize other funding sources.

Senate conferees are myself as chair, co-chair Hashimoto, and managers Kanuha and Fevella.

And House conferees are myself and Representative Miyake as co-chairs, and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Okay, so we have a CD1 that has a clean effective date on it. And I believe we have agreement as well as WAM release.

We do. And we have FIN release.

We are.

And Manager Fevella.

And Manager Muraoka.

Aye.

May I take the vote on behalf of the House?

Co-Chair Miyake.

Okay, so are we ready to take the vote?

Yes, please.

Aye.

Co-Chair Evslin.

So Chair's recommendation for SB572 is to pass with amendments. Chair Chang aye. Co-Chair Hashimoto.

Aye.

Aye.

Manager Kanuha.

Aye.

Aye.

Okay, the recommendation is adopted. We have a bill.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

And the last item on the agenda is HB 529. I'm sorry. Did I skip 65?

Yes. So the next item is Senate Bill 65 relating to housing, which appropriates funds to HPHA for the rehabilitation, remodeling, renovation and repair of housing units. Senate managers are myself as Chair, Co-Chair Senator Hashimoto and Managers Kanuha and Fevella.

We have the house. We have myself and Representative Miyake as co chairs and Representative Pierrick as manager.

Okay, So I believe we have agreement on CD1. CD1 has a clean date, and it also includes an appropriation for $10 million in General Funds in fiscal years 26 and 27. We also have WAM release. We have agreement and we have fin release. Agree. So are we ready to take the vote? We are.

So Chair's recommendation for SB65 is to pass with amendments. [Vote]. Recommendation is adopted. You have a bill?

Thank you. And now, we are on the last item of the agenda, HB 529, HD 1, SD 1, related to estate finances. This Bill would authorize the Hawaii Housing Finance and Development Corporation to secure revenue bonds as a line of credit or other instrument of indebtedness for the bond volume recycling program.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-chairs and Representative Pierick as manager.

Senate conferees are myself as chair, co-chair Senator Hashimoto, and managers Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

And we have a proposed CD 1, which I believe we have an agreement on. The proposed draft would change the language on page one from "may secure revenue bonds as a line of credit" would change to "may utilize revenue bonds when obtaining a line of credit," and then it fills in the blank with 300 million.

And then, it would give it an effective date upon approval. Do—and we have FIN release on this Bill. Do we have agreement?

And we have, we have agreement, and we also have WAM release. And the amendment on page one that you identify "may utilize revenue bonds when obtaining a line of credit or other instrument."

Sorry, say more. Yes, you're right. Okay. So, Chair's recommendation is to pass out the CD 1. Chair votes aye.

[Roll Call]

Okay, great. And there be no further business, this Committee meeting is adjourned. Thank you.

Good morning. We are convening the joint House and is conference Wednesday April 23rd at this is a 1035 at 1030 agenda in conference room 224. And we have a single bill with us today. It's HB 703 HB relating to Kakuna Housing. On behalf of the House we have myself and Representative Morikawa as Co-Chairs.

We have Chen Templo and Alcos as managers.

Senate conferees are myself as Chair, Co-Chair Senator Hashimoto and as well as Senator Moriwaki and manager Senator Evslin.

Okay. And this bill simply extends the sunset date for the state rent supplement program for Kakuna Housing to June 30,2028. And that change was made on the date. And then also the made effective upon its approval is our conference draft. And we have agreement, I believe. And we also have fin release.

And we have WAM release.

Okay, so then let's go ahead and vote. Did we? We didn't lose too many people. Okay, so. So I recommend then just adopting the conference draft with the date upon approval. [Vote]. So we have a bill. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we are. I lost my Diablo. If you could rejoin.

Good morning everybody. We reconvening our conference Committee meeting. Today is Wednesday, April 23rd. It's 2025. We're 10am in Conference Room 229 at the State Capitol. First up, we have HB86HD2SD1. And it is relating to the Department of Land and Natural Resources, the Makai Watch Bill. On our House side, we have myself and Lamasao as Co-Chairs.