Conference Committee

Reconvening Conference Committee. Senate Bill number 382. Since it's a reconvene from earlier, I'll dispense with the members for now. We were hoping that finance, although this bill had no money nor fiscal impact and wasn't referred to a money committee, would release it. But it sounds like that's not the case. Right.

Okay, everybody, welcome back.

Yeah. Sorry. No.

That's not. Like I said before, this was a bill for the trades. It was not my own measure. So I'm sure that the conversations over this will continue. But we really appreciate you trying to get a release and so we'll work on it next year with the trades. Okay, cool.

Okay, thank you.

Convening our Conference Committee on House Bill 1064, House Draft 2, Senate Draft 2. Today is Friday, April 25, 2025, 1:30pm in Conference Room 016. Here on the House side, it's myself, Representatives Tarnas and Lamosao as Co-Chairs, Managers Ichiyama and Souza.

Good afternoon.

And on behalf of the Senate, Senator Elefante as Chair, Co-Chair Senator Aquino, Senator Lee, Senator Rhoads, Members Wakai and DeCorte.

Senator, I think we are ready to vote. We have a draft that establishes the Office of the State Fire Marshal to be set in the Department of Law Enforcement with various duties outlined for the for the Department. The last items that we had settled on was that we needed to settle on last night was the funding for the various positions. We have received memos from Ways and Means and Finance as to a $2,212,000 appropriation for both fiscal years 26 and 27 of a funds for various positions. Am I correct in...

And that would be eight. Eight positions?

Yes, eight positions.

And that's working off the proposed CD 2 draft, right? And with further amendments with the appropriations for that?

Yes. So with that, I think we can vote.

Yeah. And if I may, with your indulgence. First off, I want to thank Senator Wakai, who was the original author of Act 209 that established the Fire Marshal last year. Also for all the advocates, our Co-Chair, we also have our Labor and Technology Chair Aquino, Judiciary Chair Rhoads, WAM Chair Dela Cruz, staff, and Finance Chair Yamashita. Office of the Governor, Senate Leadership and House Leadership. Vice Speaker Ichiyama, Chair Tarnas, Chair Belatti, yourself, the State Fire Council, and Chair Todd.

Our AG Office, AG Lopez, Mr. Day, Deputy Attorney General Take and Yamashiro. DLNR, DOD, DLE, and DLIR. Thank you for housing this temporarily. And also my staff Taylor, Faith, and Jan, HMSO, SMA. Chair Belatti, you and your staff, and our WAM and FIN designees, Senator Lee and Representative Lamosao, and everyone here today, thank you. It really took a collaborative effort and really appreciate all the hands that worked on this measure.

I would just like to echo that thanks and gratitude. I think this has really been a collaborative effort. I also just want to thank the Finance and and Ways and Means staff because, not just with this bill, but we are making a lot of commitments for fire mitigation and addressing the threat of wildfires in our community.

So I think this is something that we can all be proud of. On that note, I need the vote sheet. If I may take the vote. If I can take the vote. Okay. [Roll Call] And on the Senate, may I take the vote? [Roll Call] We have a vote. We have a bill.

Adjourned. You want to adjourn, Chair?

We are adjourned.

We're reconvening this Joint Conference Committee hearing. We're starting with HB 423 HD 2 SD 1, relating to Workers' Compensation. For the House, we have myself, Rep. Matayoshi, Rep. Lee as co-chairs, Rep. Kapela, Rep. Reyes Oda as managers.

Okay, thank you. Senator conferees are myself as chairs, Co-Chair Senator Kim, Manager Fevella.

So I believe we do not have agreement on this, so we can roll this over to 4:30 p.m. today at Conference Room 325. Is that okay?

So if you don't have agreement, that's basically we can request a forward deferment. We can defer this bill indefinitely.

Okay. Okay, we'll do that then. So we'll just defer this bill. Is that. Is that your understanding? We'll just defer it. Okay, great. 423. Okay, we'll move on to HB4 ADHD1SD1 relating to workers compensation. House conferees. We have myself, Rep. On Toyoshi, Rep. Lee as co chairs. Rep. Capella, Reyes Oda as managers.

Thank you, Chair. Senate conferees are myself as chair Senators Keohokalole and Kanupa as co chairs and manager Fevella.

I believe we do have agreement on the CD1 for this measure. However, we are still waiting FIN WAM release and so it's okay. We'll roll this over to 4:30pm Room 325 today.

Okay, great.

Finally, we have HB 214 HD 1 SD 2, relating to government. For the House conferees, we have myself and Rep. Lee as co-chairs, Rep. Reyes Oda as manager.

Okay. Senate conferees are myself as chair, Senator Moriwaki as co-chair, and Fevella as manager.

We do have agreement on the CD; we're just waiting FIN/WAM release. Is that correct?

Yes.

Okay great. We'll roll this over to--sorry--4:30 today at Room 325. Is that okay?

Yes.

Great. This hearing is adjourned. [Adjourned].

Okay, reconvening this Conference Committee hearing. It is Friday, April 25th, is 2:30, I guess, in Conference Room 16. Let's see. We're going with the Senate bills now?

We can do the, the House bills, the collective bargaining bills. I believe we have 1036, 37, and 39.

Okay, yes thank you. Okay so HB 1036, HD 1, SD 1, relating to public employment cost items. For House conferees, we have myself, Rep Belatti as Co-Chairs, Representative Reyes Oda as Manager.

Okay, thank you. Senate conferees are myself as Chair, Senator Elefante Co-Chair, Manager Fevella.

Okay, I believe we're just waiting FIN WAM release on this. So if we it's okay, we'll roll this over to 4:30pm today, conference room 325. Okay great.

Next, we have HB 1037 HD 1 SD 1. For the House, we have the same conferees.

The Senate is same conferees as well.

Okay, we're still waiting FIN/WAM release for this, so we'll roll it to 4:30 p.m at Conference Room 325. Is that all right?

Yep.

Great. Next, we have HB 1039 HD 1 SD 1, relating to public employment cost items. Cost--conferees are the same.

Oh, sorry. Senate conferees are the same.

Okay. Waiting on FIN/WAM release, so we'll roll this over to 4:30 p.m., Conference Room 325. Is that all right?

Yes.

Great.

Now let's roll to the Senate bills. We have several. Senate Bill 828, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1, related to workers comp medical benefits. Senate conferees are myself as Chair, Senators Elefante and Hashimoto as Co-Chairs, and Manager Fevella.

For the House, we have myself, Lee as Co-Chairs, Rep Kapela, Kusch, and Reyes Oda as Managers.

Okay, so same like all the other bills. We do have CDs. We're just waiting for release. So like to request to go to 4:30, room 325 today. Okay, thank you.

Okay, up next we have Senate Bill 717 relating to collective bargaining Senate conferees are myself as chair Senators Lee and Chang as co chairs and manager Fevella.

For the House we have myself from Lee as co chairs Manager Reyes Oda.

I believe we are still waiting for FIN WAM release so I'd like to request that we come back at 4:30 conference room 325. Okay. Okay, thank you. And then the last measure, Senate Bill 1065 Senate draft two House draft one relating to skills based hiring.

Senate conferees are myself as chair Senators McKelvey and Hashimoto as co chairs and manager Fevella.

For the House we have myself and Rep Lee as co chairs and manager Reyes Oda.

Okay, I believe we have WAM release on this. So we have WAM release on this and we do have an agreement. So let's do we have FIN release?

Checking with my FIN disagree now we unfortunately we do not have been released on this bill yet. So. Yeah.

Okay. So could we come back 4:30, 335?

Yes, sounds good.

Good afternoon.

Okay, thank you very much.

Thank you.

I'd like to call to order our joint House and Senate conference Committee hearing for Friday April 25th. We are on one of our 3:30pm agendas in Conference Room 016.

We're going to start with the agenda that has a single item on it, which is HB 286 HD 2 SD 1, relating to the Individual Housing Account Program. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Ilagan and Miyake as co-chairs and Representatives Alcos and Matsumoto as manager.

Senate conferees are myself as chair, Co-Chair Senator Hashimoto, and Conferee Senator Fevella.

And we have an agreement on this bill but no FIN or WAM release, so we will be--if it's agreeable to you, Senator--rolling this to...I have the wrong time in here.

4:30 p.m. in Room 225.

4:30 p.m., Room 225. Yes, that works. Okay, great. Seeing no further business, this hearing is now adjourned. Sorry, 4:30 p.m. today, Room 225. [Adjourned].

Good afternoon. I'd like to reconvene our Joint House and Senate Conference Committee hearing for Friday, April 25th. We are on the second of our 3:30 p.m. agendas, we are in Room 016, and it's currently 3:33. We have a number of items on this agenda. We do not have FIN or WAM release on any of these bills.

So our intention is to roll this entire agenda to 4:30 in room 225 today. So just to make sure that I dot my I's and cross my t's here, we're going to go through every bill and roll each of them to 4:30 in 225. HB 1298, HD 3, SD 1, relating to housing. It's available to you, Senator.

4:30, room 225. HB 422, HD 1, SD 2, relating to school impact fees. Again, 4:30, 225. Oh my gosh. Wrong agenda here. Wrong. Sorry. Yeah, you're right. SB 662, SD 1, HD 3, related to transportation. Roll it to 4:30 in room 225. HB 1409, HD 1, SD 1, related transit oriented development. Roll it to 4:30 in 225. SB 26, SD 2, HD 2. Roll it to 4:30, 225.

HB 740, HD 2, SD 2, related to housing. Roll it to 4:30, 225. HB 432, HD 1, SD 2, related to the rental housing revolving fund. Roll it to 4:30, 225. SB 1229, SD 2, HD 1, related dwelling unit revolving fund. Roll it to 4:30, 225. SB 944, SD 2, HD 1, related to Low Income Housing Credit. Roll it to 4:30, 225. Awesome. Very successful agenda. Seeing no further business. This hearing is now adjourned.

Reconvening the Conference Committees on a number of bills for our Transportation agenda here in State Capitol Conference Room 016. We'd like to take out of order, HB 1231. Let me turn it over to my co-chair.

Thank you, Senator. On behalf of the House for HB 1231, I have myself, Co-Chair Grandinetti, Member Pierick.

Thank you. For the Senate: myself, Co-Chairs Kim, Rhoads, Members Elefante and DeCorte.

Thank you, Senator. We're voting on this with approved FIN and WAM release, FIN release and WAM. Thank you. Senator, we have agreed upon CD 1 as followed. For HB 1231, I'd like to adopt a CD 1. Senator, this is probably one of the most consequential funding bills for what's known as the Safe Routes to School Special Fund.

For House Bill 1231 Conference Draft 1, it establishes a Safe Route to School Program vehicle registration surcharge, requires all counties to impose and collect a $5 surcharge on every motor vehicle registration under Section 249-31 or 249-31.5, must be implemented, collected no later than December 31, 2025. Proceeds are deposited to Safe Routes to School--Safe Routes to School Program Special Fund to support traffic safety and improvements near schools.

Prohibits the use of facial recognition software, biometric identification technology, and photo red light imaging detector systems and automated speed enforcement systems, but I clarify that this prohibition does not apply to automated license plate readers or non-biometric technologies verifying vehicle registration. This also clarifies the summons and citation procedures for the Automated Speed Enforcement Systems Program.

The summons or citations must be submitted to the post office within ten calendar days of the violation date; establishes clear procedures for recording mailing dates as evidence, allows weekends and holidays to extend mailing deadlines, insurance citations contain a clear photographic image of the license plate and speed evidence confirms that liability for infractions attached to the vehicle owner--clarifies that liability for infractions attached to the registered vehicle owner regardless of driver identity. House rules.

Unless the vehicle is stolen, clarifies citation issues do not appear on traffic abstracts or impact vehicle insurance, strengthens the protections of maintaining traffic safety. This act shall will take effect upon approval. With the agreement, I'd like to take the vote to adopt House Bill 1231 Conference Draft 1. Senator, I just love you. You're too fun. On behalf, Co-Chair Kila votes aye. [Roll Call]. Can I take a vote on behalf of the Senate?

Please.

[Roll Call]. We have a CD 1 for HB 1231. Senator, you want to return to the agenda?

Yes. Let's see. I do not have quorum at the moment.

We're going to reconvene?

Yes. So we're going to--for the measures on the agenda, we're going to reconvene.

We're going to reconvene in Conference Room 225 at 5:15pm today for the measures not yet addressed, which include SB 1526, SB 1120, SB 21, SB 1117, HB 958, HB 697, SB 1009, SB 1667, HB 667, HB 1161, HB 1260, HB 1164, HB 960, HB 1167, HB 862. And in the event I missed one, anything else that was on our agendas that we are currently looking at?

Yes, sounds good. Thank you.

Good evening. Calling to order the joint Conference Committee hearing with the House and the Senate for Friday, April 25th on our 5:15 now agenda in Conference Room 0016 or 016. We have a number of items on the agenda, which we are waiting for quorum. And so we will recess while we get quorum. Recess.

All right. Calling back to order our joint House and Senate Conference Committee hearing.

We are on our 5:15 agenda in room 016. We are going to take the agenda out of order to do what we can do with quorum for the item we can vote on right now is HP 4209 HD1 SD1 related to Transit Oriented Development.

On behalf of the House we have myself and Representatives Hashem and Miyake as co Chairs and Representative Muraoka as manager.

Senate conferees are myself as Chairman Co Chair Senator Inouye, Co Chair Senator Kanuha and Manager Senator Fevella.

HP 1409. Give me one second. We have a. Everybody has a CD1 which has been distributed. This defines transit port of density. We are voting on the CD1 which has been 2025. 3374 proposed dash 3. Is that agreeable to you Senator? Yes. Okay. And in that case we can run straight into the vote.

Oh, we have a 6:30. Oh, we can go a little slower here. Can I read the amendments real quick or does anybody have to run make sure we're not in any violations here? All right. This bill 1409 define trend. We're good. We're just gonna run into it. Okay. It defines transport of density.

It establishes the mixed income sub account within the rental housing revolving fund and it defines TOD for the purposes of the TOD strategic plan and it authorizes HCDA to utilize the definition of transport density in their planning is the gist of the bill and we are ready to vote. Chair recommends passage of a CD1 with amendments.

[Roll Call] Can I take the vote? On behalf of the Senate, Yes. [Roll Call] Measure passes. We have a bill. Thank you.

I'm going to need you.

We'll come back to that. And then you have 1298.

Yeah, we have. We have quorum 1298.

Okay. Voting on HB 1298, HD 3, SD 1, related to housing. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Sayama and Miyake as Co-Chairs, and Representatives Kapela and Pierick as Managers.

On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Senators Kanuha and Aquino as Co-Chairs, and Senator Fevella as Manager.

The latest version of the bill would establish the government employee housing revolving fund and 90 and appropriates funds. The bill in front of us that we have the CD 1 for would make some amendments to that to remove the revolving fund from Section 2. Retains the structure of the government employee housing program.

Limits the program to a single project on the transit oriented development site. Amends the dwelling unit rolling fund to specify that it can fund the government employee housing program. Includes $200,000 for each of the next two fiscal years for planning, rulemaking, and community engagement. And $160,000 for one time full time equivalent position at HHFDC.

And the CD 1 that we have in front of us is 2025-3448, proposed Dash 1. Is that agreeable to you, Senator? Great. In that case, we can go straight into the vote. Once I find my vote sheet. Chair recommends passage of CD 1 with amendments. [Roll Call] May I take the vote on behalf of the Senate? [Roll Call] Measure passes. We have a bill. Thank you. And let's see if we got quorum on anything else. We never have. 432. Yeah. Okay.

1229. We have quorum on our side. Are you guys good for 1229?

Sorry, we don't have to word for anything else.

HB... But who's the new designee for 1229?

Wait. Wait, wait, wait. One moment. Excuse me. If you're looking for votes, can we--since we have quorum, before anybody--he's going to disappear. HB 830.

Okay. Taking--

Historic preservation, please.

Taking HB 830 out of order, HB 830 HD 2 SD 2, relating to historic preservation. Reviews: this bill established third-party review system within SHPD. The amendments that we have in front of us would amend the bill. It limits a use of third-party review to residential or mixed-use development, it deletes the 6E-10 section to no longer apply to projects on historic property, and it does not contain any appropriation in the bill, and it'll be effective July 1, 2005.

Section two and three are effective 07/01/2026 and the CD 1 that you folks should have in front of you is 20253312 proposed dash four. Is that agreeable to you?

Yes. Note your conferees, please.

Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Thank you. Oh my gosh. Act is effective July 1, 2025. Yes. Thank you. And the sections two and three are effective 2026. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Hashem and Miyake as co-chairs and Managers Muraoka.

Okay. For the Senate conferees on HB 830 Senate Draft 2: myself, Chair Inouye, Chair--Co-Chairs Chang. Co-Chairs Chang?

Yep.

Did you say aye?

Oh, I.

Okay, please. Okay.

Oh, we're not voting.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, I'll take the vote if it's okay. Yeah. Thank you.

This is Aloha Friday. Anything happens.

That's a crazy Aloha Friday, so...

Sorry.

Sorry, are we ready to take the vote then?

Please.

Thank you, Senator. So recommendation of the, the agreement here is to pass out of CD 1. The chair votes aye. [Roll Call]. May I take the vote on behalf of the Senate, please?

Please.

Thank you. [Roll Call]. Measure passes. Thank you very much.

Okay, gotta bill. Thanks. That's okay. That's okay.

No, but we might.

Okay.

12:29.

Give me a time.

Okay. Time is 6:02. Oh, we got 26. Okay. Do we have 29 or 26? 12:29 or 26?

26, we need Lee. 12:29, we need Lee and either Fevella or Kanuha, so no, we don't have quorum either.

662, we need Lee or Fevella. We will recess while we wait to get quorum.

Good evening and welcome back to our joint committees. We are now taking up out of order SB 662, relating to transportation. Our House... Sorry. Senate conferees are myself as Chair, Co-Chair Senator Elefante, Co-Chair Senator Lee, and Manager Senator Fevella.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Kila, Todd, and Miyake as Co-Chairs, and Representative Muraoka as Manager.

Okay, so we have agreement on this measure. It authorizes county police officers to enforce a statewide traffic code on all public streets, roadways, or highways within the state. The CD 1 takes effect upon approval. Are we in agreement?

We have agreement.

Okay. And we have WAM release. And you have FIN release? Great. So ready to take a vote. Chair Chang, aye. So the recommendation of the House and Senate Managers is to pass with amendments. [Roll Call] And may I take the vote on behalf of the House? [Roll Call] Recommendation is adopted. We have a bill. And we're back in recess.

We're back from recess. We'll be... We'll be recessing and then reconvening on all the remaining bills on this agenda in room 225. Thank you. And we're again in recess.

We're convening this Friday, April 25th, 2025, 1:30 PM Conference Committee meeting in room 224 at the State Capitol to consider a number of measures. The first is SB 825, SD 2, HD 2, relating to eviction mediation. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Hashimoto, Rhoads, co-chairs, Fukunaga, McKelvey, members.

On behalf of the House, we have myself, Representatives Poepoe and Takenouchi as co-chairs, Representatives Chun and Pierick as managers.

Thank you very much. I believe we are in agreement.

Yes, we have agreement. And we have, we have FIN release. I assume you have WAM.

We do have Ways and Means release which will include an appropriation, but we don't have the thing to read, so give us five seconds. Okay, it's in FY '26, $1.25 million in A funds.

And in FY '27, $1.25 million in A funds.

Okay.

Okay. Are we prepared to vote?

Yes.

No, we're not. We need the vote sheet.

You guys got it for 825. We're going to need 1367 too after that. 1367. Vote cheat.

[Roll Call]

Representative Poepoe. Representative Poepoe. We have a bill.

Is that you? Yeah. Okay. I was going to say how like you upgraded since this morning.

He just taught me a new thing. Apparently there's a product that you could purchase for $100.

Can we proceed to Senate Bill 1367?

Yes, please.

Okay. This is relating to installment loans. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair. Senator Richards is. Excused, Senator Awa. I don't think I have quorum.

Okay. Okay. Why don't we move it? Sorry, we had quorum on our side. We're about to lose it too.

Okay.

Nope.

Okay. Okay. We can go back to the top of the agenda. SB 1044, Senate Draft 2 House Draft 2, relating to the stabilization of property insurance. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Moriwaki, Co-chair. Senators Fukunaga, McKelvey and Awa, members.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Yamashita as Co-chairs, Representatives Chun, Tam, and Pierick as managers.

Chair, thank you for your help and work on this. We are trying to make - bond language is very specific and technical, and we want to make sure this is a very important bill.

We have a fundamental agreement. We're just triple check; well, we're going to try and measure twice and cut once on the on the bond language so that we get it right. Can we roll action on this measure to 3:50pm, today, the 25th in this room?

350 - 50.

350.

And 224 today.

And thank you for your work on the bond language as well.

Thank you very much. Okay. Next measure is Senate Bill 1220, SD 2, HD 1, relating to renewable gas tariff. On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair, Wakai, Kanuha Co-Chairs, Richards, Awa Members.

On behalf of the House, myself as Chair, Matayoshi, Takenouchi Co-Chairs, and Perruso and Pierick as Members.

I believe we're waiting for release on this. What's your pleasure?

3:50pm. Same as the rest of the agenda in this room later today.

Okay. This afternoon, 3:50 PM, on this measure 224. Thank you. Next measure is SB 1500, SD 2, HD 1, relating to electric utilities. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Wakai, co-chair, Richards, Awa, members.

On behalf of the House, myself, co chair Sayama, Matayoshi, Takenouchi, and members Reyes Oda.

Thank you very much. We're also waiting release on this measure and so can we roll to 3:50 PM here in this room? Thank you.

Yes, thank you.

Last measure on this agenda is the House bill. I'll yield to the representative.

Thank you, Chair. We have HB 1370. We do have a CD but we're still waiting for release. May I suggest we roll over to 3:50 as well?

3:50 pm in this conference room 224? Yes. Thank you.

Thank you.

Let's go into a recess.

Reconvening on Senate Bill 1367, Senate Draft 1, House Draft 1, relating to installment loans. Revised Conference Draft 1 was circulated yesterday which included the five year time frame for this measure, as well as the one $1 convenience fee and I believe the effective date has been corrected. Okay. Are we ready to vote?

Yes. On behalf of the House, we have myself and representative Takenouchi as co-chairs and Representative Pierick as a manager.

On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair. Senator Richards, co-chair. Member Awa is excused.

Yeah. Let's vote.

[Roll Call]

Thank you. Shall we adjourn?

Yes.

We're adjourned.

Reconvening. It is Friday, April 25rh, 2025, 2:30 PM agenda in Conference Room 224. Two items on the agenda. First item up is HB 939, HD 1, SD 2, related to alcohol. This is the liquor tax law and changing the liquor rates. For me—House—Representative Matayoshi, Takenouchi as co-chairs, Representative Pierick as manager.

And on behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Wakai co-chair, McKelvey, Richards, Fevella, members.

Did you folks have a chance to look at the CD that we sent over?

We have reviewed the CD. We are amenable and waiting for release.

Yep, ready for release two. Why don't we roll this to the 3:55 agenda in this room, 224?

Okay.

Okay, thank you. All right, next up, we have HB 1052, HD 1, SD 2, relating to the Universal Service Program. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Takenouchi as co-chairs, Representatives Iwamoto and Pierick as managers.

On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, co-chairs Hashimoto, Kanuha, and member awa.

Thank you. I believe we're in agreement on this too. We're just waiting for WAM/FIN release. Is that correct?

I think we're just waiting for the FIN release.

Oh, just FIN.

Okay. Our fault. Why don't we roll this to three—the same thing—3:55 agenda in room 224 today.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, thank you. We're adjourned.

Good afternoon. I'd like to call to order the Joint House and Senate Conference Committee hearing for Friday, April 25th. We are on our 3:00pm agenda in Conference Room 224. It's currently 3:03 we are reconvening on a single bill today. HB 830 HD2 SD2, relating to historic preservation reviews.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representatives Hashem and Miyake as Co-Chairs, and Representative Muraoka as Manager.

Thank you, Chair. For the Senate, the Senate Conference Committee on HB 830 Senate Draft 2. Myself, Senator Inoue as Chair, Co-Chairs Chang, Gabbard, Hashimoto, Members McKelvey and the DeCorte.

Thank you, Senator. So it looks like we are still waiting for fin release. Yes. And.

And so are we on the. On the Senate side? Yes, we.

Yeah, I think we'll talk about the CD1 once we get release on hopefully a CD1. So if it's okay with you Senator, if we could roll this into, into the 4:30 agenda in room 225.

Okay. Yes. Okay, we'll meet then. Great. We will see you then. Thank you.

Seeing no for the businesses. Hearing is adjourned.

Thank you everyone. We are reconvening for our 350 agenda. And we are here at 224, April 25th HB 1370 relating to taxation. We have House conferees, myself as Chair, Matayoshi as co chair Takanouchi as well. And then we have Manager Chon, Holt and Matsumoto.

And on behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair Makai, co chair, Awa Member.

We have. We have an agreement and we also have release just for House Protocol amends the definition of a draft beer used in liquor tax laws to mean beer in an individual container with 5 gallons or more. Effective 126. And chair, is it okay if we take the vote? Yes, please. Thank you. [roll call].

We have. We have a bill. Thank you.

Okay. Are you done?

They're all on the same agenda.

Oh, they're all on the same one. Okay. Yeah. The 350 agenda. 350.

Thank you.

All right.

We're just.

Open.

Yeah.

Okay. Okay. So can we jump to SB 1220?

Yes.

Okay. We're going to move on to SB 1220, relating to renewable gas tariff. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Wakai, Kanuha, co-chairs, Awa, member excused.

On behalf of the House, myself, co-chairs Matayoshi and Takenouchi, members Perruso and Pierick.

I believe we have agreement. We have a Ways and Means release on our side.

We have FIN release on our side.

Okay. We're prepared to vote.

Okay. This Bill just creates a expedited process to establish a renewable gas tariff. And the changes from the latest version were to fix the dates.

[Roll Call]

Okay. And then SB 1500 next on the agenda.

Okay. Next measure is Senate Bill.

Just a second. Whoops.

Next Bill is Senate Bill 1500 relating to electric utilities. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Wakai, Co chair Richard's AWA Members. Excuse me.

On behalf of the House, myself, co Chair Sayama Mariyoshi Takenucci, Member Reyes Oda. I think we're still waiting for FIN, WAM release on this. Are you okay if we roll it to today at 5:30pm here in room 224?

Yes, that's fine.

Okay, thank you.

Okay. And the last measure on this 3:50pm agenda is split 10:44 before we call it, we'll take a quick recession.

We're reconvening the Committee for the two. Sorry, the 355 agenda. We're in conference room 224 Friday, April 25th, 2025. First up on the agenda, HB 939 HD1 SD1 relating to alcohol. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Takenouchi as co-chairs, Representative Manager. And on behalf of the Senate, myself as Chairman.

Wakai Co-Chair McKelvey, Richards Favella Members. Understand we do not still do not have FIN or WAM release. Can we roll this to 5:30 today? Yes. In room 224.

Yes.

Thank you. Next up we have HP 1052 HD1 SD2 relating to the Universal Service Program. On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Takenouchi as co-chairs. Representatives Iwamoto and Pierick as managers.

On behalf of the Senate, we have myself as chair. Senator Hashimoto is excused. Senator Kanuha as co-chair is present. Senator Awa is excused.

Yeah, I understand you have wam release, but we still are waiting on FIN release. If you don't mind rolling this to 5:30pm in room 224 today. Okay. Okay, thank you. We're adjourned.

Okay. Reconvening on this 3:50 PM agenda for consideration of SB 1044, relating to the stabilization of property insurance. On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Moriwaki, co-chair, Fukunaga, McKelvey, and Awa, members. Awa excused.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Yamashita as co-chairs. Representatives Chun, Tam, and Pierick, with Pierick excused.

Thank you, Chair, and thank you for your diligent work on this measure. I believe we have an agreement and release and are ready to vote.

Yeah, we do, and thank you for your hard work at this measure, too.

If I, if I may highlight the key amendments. There are, aside from the $100,000 study, which was already accounted for in the prior draft, there are three major appropriations in this measure.

The first is a $30 million reimbursable general obligation bond appropriation to the Hawaii Hurricane Relief Fund to be used for a loan facilitated by the DCCA Insurance Division to the HPIA, to stand up their insurance program.

There's a second $20 million general obligation bond reimbursable appropriation to the Hawaii Green Infrastructure Authority for facilitation of the condominium loan program contemplated in the Bill. And there is a $5 million appropriation from the Hurricane Relief Fund to the Hawaii Green Infrastructure Authority for GAP reserves to facilitate that loan program.

I'd also like to mention that the assessment periods contemplated for HHRF and HPIA in the Bill were blank. Those will be—36 months will be inserted into that. Those provisions and the temporary recording fee will be up to $44, upon approval of the Insurance Commission. Okay. Are we ready to vote?

Yeah, let's do it.

[Roll Call]

We have a Bill. Thank you very much.

Okay. And on that, we're adjourned.

Reconvening on Senate Bill 1500 in room 224. Behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair Wakai. Co-Chair Richards members excused.

On behalf of the House, myself and co Chair Sayama, Mariyoshi and Takenouchi, Manager Reyes Oda.

So we have agreement and we have wam release on our side, but we are.

Waiting on Finance. Waiting on finance.

Would you like to roll this?

Let's yes roll this. Yes.

What time would you like to do that?

To 5:56pm in this room, I think. All right. Is that right? Or we could do. Yeah, that's right.

We will defer action on this measure until 5:56pm today in this room. 224.

For sentate, Keohokalole, Richards, Favella.

Reconvening the- I don't even know what time. What time is the agenda? We roll to 5:30 agenda in conference room 224. It is 4. It is April 25th. First up is HB 939 HD1. HD2 relating to alcohol for the House. It's me, Representative Matyoshi. Representative Takenouchi as co-chairs. Representative Pierick as manager.

Okay, do you want to roll this till. Yes. 6:15. 15 here at 224.

Thank you. Recess.

Reconvening for the 615 agenda. We have a number of items on the thing. We're going to go. We're going to take it out of order. HB 1052. First, HD1 SD2 relating to the Universal Service Program.

This clarifies that the Public Utilities Commission under the Universal Service Program may use funds from the Universal Service Program to provide free telecommunications access to individuals with print disabilities. Takes effect, I believe on approval. So on behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Takenucci as co chairs. Representatives Iwamoto and Fury as managers.

On behalf of the Senate, myself as Chair. Senators Akino and Kanuha as co Chairs. Member Awa is excused.

Thank you. And Jenna, do you want to say the FIN?

There's no money, right? Just $150,000 cap.

$150,000 cap. Okay. Okay.

Was in the draft, right? Yeah.

Great. I think we're ready to vote then. On behalf of the House, we are recommending passage with CD. [Roll Call] May I take the vote for the Senate? Yes. [Roll CAll] Thank you.

Thank you.

And we will be deferring. HB 939. We're adjourned. Okay.

Welcome back. We're convening on Senate Bill 1500, relating to electric utilities. Senate is Kehokalole, Wakai, Richards, Awa excused.

On behalf of the House, I believe it is myself, co-chairs Matayoshi, Takenouchi and Sayama, and manager Reyes Oda.

So, we're all ready to go on this Bill. We're making the date good. We have release. Can I take the vote?

Yes, please.

[Roll Call]

Gotta be the last one. We're adjourned.

Aloha Kakou. We are reconvening the conference Committee meeting here on Friday, April 25 in conference room 225. Reconvening a 4pm hearing notice. We have one item on our agenda, HB 496 HD 2 SD 1 relating to Mimaki Tea.

For the House conferees we have Representatives Kahlo, Matoyashi, Kusch as Co-Chairs and Matsumoto as manager on the Senate side.

Myself as Chair, Gabbard, Kanuha, Richards and Fevella.

Thank you. Chair. We did receive fin release on this measure. Any news on your side? Yep, we did too. Thank you. I'll do a little more description on the bill for the proposed CD Draft 1 that was agreed upon by the Committee chairs. This bill is relating to Mamaki Tea.

Prohibits the use of certain words and misleading Hawaiian imagery, place names and motifs on the label of a consumer package that contains or includes tea or dried leaves from the plant Pipturus albidus unless 100% of the tea or dried leaves were cultivated, harvested and dried in the state appropriates funds for a measurement standard inspector position for the Hawaii Department of Agriculture.

So for the release that we've got from the finance Committee there's one FTE 65,000 for FY26 and 65,000 for FY27. Care. Everything looking okay for you? Great. Would you like to vote? Yes. Okay. Members, we will be voting on this measure, HB496HE2SD1.

The recommendation of the House and Senate managers is to pass with amendments with RCD 1 and for the House, myself as Co-Chair. [Vote]. Chair, we have a bill. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you both Senators and Representatives. And we are now adjourned.

Thank you. Good afternoon.

Reconvening our joint Senate and House conference Committee hearing for Friday April 25th. We are on our 4:30 agenda in room 2 to 5. We are still waiting on FIN and WAM release for essentially everything on this agenda. So we will recess. We have the room until 5:10.

Our tentative plan is to bring it back at around 5 o' clock.

Recess.

Reconvening on our recess agenda for Friday, April 25th. We are still on our 4:30 agenda in room 225. And we are going to... We're on the agenda, starting with HB 1298, HD 3, SD 1. We're going to move every bill on this agenda to 5 o'clock to reconvene at 5 o'clock in this room. And then we will add two other agendas to the same one.

So I'm going to read through all these bills, if you could have patience with me. HB 1298, HD 3, SD 1. We will be reconvening at 5 o'clock in this room, and we'll be adding to that same agenda. HB 422, HD 1, SD 2. SB 662, SD 1, HD 3. HB 1409, HD 1, SD 1. SB 26, SD 2, HD 2. HB 740, HD 2, SD 2. HB 432, HD 1, SD 2. SB 1229, SD 2, HD 1. SB 944, SD 2, HD 1.

So again, reconvening in all these at 5 o'clock in this same room, which is room 225. And then we are going to be adding two more bills to that same agenda. So they're all on the same agenda, which will be HB 830, HD 2, SD 2, which was on our overlapping 4:30 agenda here. Again, that'll be in this room 225. And then HB 286, HD 2, SD 1, again, for that same five o'clock agenda in room 225.

And just to clarify, HB 422 is already at the end.

Thank you.

Okay. Just to reconfirm. 830 HB also at 5:00 and same room?

Yes.

All right.

Okay. Sorry about the mistake. So striking HB 422, HD 1, SD 2 from there. The rest are good to go. Are we good, Senators? Okay. Seeing no further business. This hearing is adjourned until 5:00.

Reconvening our joint House and Senate Conference Committee hearing for our 4:30pm agenda. We're in conference room 225. We are going to reconvene this entire agenda in room 016 at 5:15. I'm just going to run through every bill which we'll be reconvening on.

HB 1298, HD 3, SD 1. SB 662, SD 1, HD 3. HB 1409, HD 1, SD 1. SB 26, SD 2, HD 2. HB 740, HD 2, SD 2. HB 432, HD 1, SD 2. SB 1229, SD 2, HD 1. SB 944, SD 2, HD 1. HB 830, HD 2, SD 2. And HB 286, HD 2, SD 1. Again, reconvening every one of those listed bills in conference room 016 at 5:15 in one minute. Seeing no further business, this hearing... You're good? This hearing is now adjourned.

Convening the 5:15pm agenda here in Conference Room 225 in the Hawaii State Capitol for continued discussion and decision making on the measures that we rolled over from the previous agenda. At this time I'd like to call a brief recess.

Thank you for the brief recess, Senator.

If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to take a measure out of order toward the adoption of a CD 1, HB 862. On behalf of the House, I have myself, co-chair Morikawa, member Muraoka.

Thank you. For the Senate, our folks, Kidani and me.

Perfect. Senator, with an agreed upon CD 1 for HB 862, I'd like to adopt the following. 862 adopt—addresses—a shortage of school bus drivers and student transportation challenges statewide. This authorizes the use of motor coaches, small buses, vans, or school transportation. If certain conditions are met, this allows the DOT to grant exemptions when school vehicles are unavailable, economic factors make it impractical.

Applies to the DOE, the State Public Charter School Commission, and registered independent schools. It still requires that drivers must meet school driver qualifications and adults staff chaperone must escort students with non-traditional vehicles are used. Written waivers of liability must be obtained by parents or guardians.

Students may be transported to and from schools and designated drop off locations and pickups. Updates online licensing reporting and safety standards for expanded transportation options and this fact shall take effect upon approval. With that, I'd like to adopt a CD 1.

[Roll Call]

Recess.

Reconvening our agenda for decision making HB 3667, HD 1, SD 1. I'd like to adopt the CD 1, retitled as a micro—God, I can't breathe.

The Microchip Identification Act requires DOT to scan deceased cats, dogs, on public roadways. Microchips' recorded information notify animal services within 48 hours to make reasonable efforts to contact owners.

Are you there?

You don't have it either?

Thought that's what I came down here for.

Okay, let's take a recess.

Okay. Sorry for the brief recess. HB667 CD1 adopt a CD1 or titles HB667 Mila Microchip Identification Act. Fires.to scan deceased dogs on state road waste. Microchips records microchip data. Notify the county animal service contractor, animal control agency within 48 hours and when feasible, make efforts to contact registered owner.

Each county scans this is CAT or dog on county roadway. Record microchip number. Identify notify appropriate county. Require contractor to make effort. Authorize DOT and counties to coordinate Share microchip scanners. Add Specific Chapter 264 265A Hoya Rice Statue shall take effect upon approval. We have fin release. Enabl release. Can I take a vote? Okay.

AG 667 adopting CD1. [Roll Call] On behalf of the Senate. [Roll Call] Thank you. Senator. We can go to the top of the agenda with SB 1526.

Yeah. Do you also have. Just so I can start calling people. Do you have either 1120?

I do not have 1120. You do.

No. Do you have 958?

Not right now.

Okay. All right, back to 15.

Okay. SB 1526. Send a bill.

Yeah, yeah. We got Members. You guys seem to have Members as well. Yes. Would we agree on a cd? Yep. Which is just a date.

Yes. As circulated to Members.

Okay. So voting on that. The conference draft. [Vote].

Sure.

Hi, this is. We're in room 225. This is the 5:46pm agenda. We are on Senate Bill 732 SD2 HD2 relating to the film industry. On the Senate side we have myself as Chair, Wakai Co-Chair, Kim and DeCorte Members.

And on the House side we have myself as Chair Yamashita as Co-Chair and Manager Matsumoto.

Okay. So film tax credit. Sorry. So this bill has been very important to the film industry since we will be looking at raising the cap on allowable tax credits per year from 50 million to 60 million.

As we realize that film industry and the jobs that have been created in this local economy here is not just provided for the people and the employees that work here.

They've also marketed Hawaii as Hawaii being our culture, the places that we live and allow our kids and our families to grow up and be raised in this community, in this area.

It is unfortunate that we do not have an agreement as we've been back and forth working on the different CDS and the changes that we have made.

I have tried my best along with some of my colleagues and at the end of the day it was the tax credits that was not liked and the change out of many changes that we've been working on and provisions that came up and we had and we removed that the House did not like.

And it is unfortunate and I am very saddened that this is where we're at today with this bill. For that reason, there has been no agreement on behalf of the House side so that this bill has been deferred.

Madam Chair, I just want to say thank you for your hard work on this and not giving up on it. And it's sad to see that it's. It's going to die.

Thank you. Anybody else has any other questions?

Madam Chair, I just wanted to thank you for the time that you had spent. I know there are many of our local residents who rely on the tax industry to feed their families to pay their bills in the economic time that we're in.

It's a shame that this bill has not only turned into just a matter of money details, but also it has become political. And so I'm saddened for our local families that rely on this income. I do believe that the political side of this, that we'll be able to get to the root of where everything is at.

And I just want to continue to encourage our local workers, our union workers and those that support this bill to keep going. The ones that are not supporting this bill and that are making it hard. It's only right that we be accountable to the public for the decisions that we make.

And when the public does have questions, I really hope that the people that were responsible and for making this bill difficult, that they will speak up and be responsible for those decisions to be held accountable and to make sure that we answer to the public at the end of the day. So mahalo, Chair.

And of course I'd like to pay the deepest respect to the WAM Chair as well as the Senate President who has been super, super supportive of that. But that being said, this bill has been deferred and this meeting is adjourned.

We are reconvening for agenda 5:56pm and at the top of the agenda we have HB437. The conferees are myself as Chair, Hasia as Co=Chair and Manager Matsumoto.

On the Senate side, myself is chair. Chair Lee. I mean, Senator Kim and Senator Lee as well as for Co-Chairs and Fevella as Members.

Chair, we have an agreement and we also have 50,000 for the appropriations.

So, Chair, apparently we do not have an agreement on this bill. I like to say that I believe in the office that would be put in the Philippines under debit. But at this time, we have no agreement on this bill and we choose to defer this bill. Thank you. Chair.

Would you be open to roll it over? Chair to six. Excuse me. Would you be open to bullet over?

No.

Okay.

All right. And so what are we gonna do with our next bill?

I think you have broadband and you have.

Let's move on to HB 934. We have myself as Chair, Yamashita as Co-Chair, and Manager Matsumoto.

On behalf of the Senate, we have myself as Chair, Wakai as Co-Chair, Kim and Awa.

Seems like when we think we have an agreement. Do we have an agreement on this, Chair?

I think we do have an agreement on this one, Chair.

All right, so the appropriations that we have... For HB 0934, we have 200,000 for A funds for fiscal year 26, 200,000 for B funds, 800,000 for B funds as well for fiscal year 26 and six positions. We have a release for FIN and WAM. We're good? Okay.

I don't have quorum.

Let's move on to our next Bill and we'll wait. We have HB 1391. We have myself as chair, Holt as co-chair, and Hussey, Quinlan, and Matsumoto.

On behalf of the Senate, myself as chair, Lee and Kim as co-chairs.

Do we have an agreement here, Chair?

I believe we do.

Okay. And we have...families, but we don't have—do we have, no, we don't have quorum.

So, let's take a brief recess. Recess.

We are back from recess and we are reconvening on HB 1391. Chair, we have agreement and we have quorum and we have releases. So, are we ready to vote?

I got a pen.

[Roll Call]

At this time, I'm gonna take a brief recess. Recess.

Reconvening our conference agenda. We're going to skip to SB1009 related to parking. That's me Henry. We were [unintelligible] Samantha.

Thank you. Sorry. Senator on behalf of the House, I have myself, Co-Chair Tarnas Co-Chair Grandinetti, Member Mora Oka. Thank you.

I believe we have agreement on this. May I take the vote? Yes. A conference draft although. [Vote].

Thank you, Senator. For next bill, HB 958, HD 2, SD 2, relating to transportation. We have to the House is myself, Co-Chair Tarnas, Co-Chair Grandinetti, Member Lamosao, Member Muraoka. On behalf of the Senate, yourself, Co-Chair Keohokalole, Co-Chair Rhoads, Member DeCorte.

Senator, on the agreed upon CD 1, like to adopt a CD 1 that establishes safe riding behavior for electric bus bicycles. Banning exhibition non-standard safe riding other reckless maneuvers. Prohibits operation of high speed electric devices as defined as motor devices exceeding 750 watts or 20 miles per hour on public roadways, bike lanes, sidewalk, and other similar facilities.

Implements cooperative labeling consumer disclosure requirements for electric bicycles. Manufacturers and distributors must permanently affix the label classification 123 top speed motor wattage. Retailers must post signage at the point of sale describing what does regulated retailers most verbally and written disclosure whether bicycle is legal for road work, road use, sidewalk, or bike lane use.

Requires pamphlet summarizing applicable. Allows for administrative force fines up to 500. Prohibits mopeds electric motorcycles using bike lanes bike paths. Update statutory language introducing 123 definitions. Defines electric mobility devices. Defines high speed electric devices separate from mopeds and motorcycles.

Requires e bikes to be electric bicycles registered with a one time $30 fee penalties for non-registration. Establishes age and riding requirements. Riders under 18 must wear helmets for all bicycles, electric scooters, micro mobility. No one under 16 may operate a class 3 electric bicycle, under 14 may operate class 2 electric bicycle with direct supervision as defined. Sidewalk uses clarified of what they can and cannot do

Class 1-2 bicycles may operate on sidewalks with speeds of 10 miles per hour except the business districts where defined Class 3E bikes are prohibited from sidewalk. Strengthens regulation on foot scooters microbial devices. Aligns operational use for helmet speed and storage. Repeals outdated law and replaces with everything we adopt in this bill.

Modernize the statutory language where applicable by references to motor scooters or motor driven cycles across all the transportation insurance regulatory statutes. Includes the severability clause to protect the Section of the act of invalidated effective on approval. Labeling and disclosure consumer requirements take effect December 31, 2025. On behalf of the House, like adopted CD 1 has amended and proposed. Chair Kila votes aye [Roll Call] Thank you. Let's take a brief recess.

We are coming up from recess. Hold on, Kyle. We're coming from recess and we are reconvening. We are reconvening on HB 934 and this is relating Broadband and Digital Equity Office we have agreed upon CD1 and we got FIN and WAM release Chair is it?

Before we go on to that we have myself as Chair Yamashita's co Chair and Manager Matsumoto.

Senate side myself the Chair Kim and Awa.

Chair, mind if we start the vote? Sure. We're gonna pass this out with recommendations. [Roll Call] Chair May I take the vote for the Senate [Roll Call] Chair we have a bill. All right. This meeting is now. oh.

This meeting is now adjourned.

Reconciliation Reconvening the measures for the decision making on HB960HD1SD1 on behalf of the House is myself, Co-Chair Grandinetti, Member Evslin, Garrett, Muraoka. On behalf of the Senate, Chair Lee Member, Co-Chair Aquino, Co-Chair Kanuha, Member DeCorte. Senator, I'd like to adopt for HB960 CD1 raising a single contract threshold for DOT harbor capital advancement projects from 2 million to 5 million.

Requires legislative approval by Concurrent Resolution for contracts above 5. Increase the total annual cap on capital advanced contracts from 5 million to 30 million per fiscal year. Requires DOT to submit. Sounds good. Take a vote right now. Okay. I'd like to vote on the proposed CD1. [Vote].

[Vote]. Adopted. Senator, we have any other measures like to consider? Well, sure. How much time we got? Thank you. Voting. I don't know there's anything else that. We have release on, do we? I do not have release on SB 1120. What about.

Do you have HP697 for release? Sorry.

Hold on, hold on. Hold on.

It. Sorry you guys.

I just want to.

We're not recess.

Convening back the Transportation and TCA agenda for the adoption of HB 697, CD 1, as conferred by myself and the co-chair for Senate Transportation. Clarifying and updates the Automated...Program as definition for reviewing entity to include Department of Law Enforcement, Department of Transportation, county police departments that are contracted, service providers acting under supervision.

Updates verification procedures to allow reviewing entity to review updates. Verify automated speed enforcement images before issuing citations. This raises the minimum threshold for enforcement citations from 5 mph to 7 over the posted speed limit. Prior citations to be met within 10 calendar days of violation. Allowances of deadlines following weekends, holidays.

Appropriates 2 million for State Highway Fund for fiscal year '25-'26 to support the establishment. Implementation program actual take effect July 1st, 2025.

[Roll Call]

Recess.

Good evening and welcome to the Conference Committee for Senate Bill 26, relating to affordable housing. Senate conferees are myself as chair, co-chairs Senators Inouye and Lee, and conferee Senator Fevella.

And on behalf of the House, we have myself and co—representatives—Hashem, Miyake, as co-chairs, and Representative La Chica and Muraoka as managers.

So, we have agreement on—we also have land release. This establishes the Affordable Housing Land Inventory Task force to conduct a study. The task force will be placed into HHFDC. There will be a 07-01-2025 exit date and there will be appropriation of $250,000 out of the dwelling unit with all the funds.

Sounds good. Agreeable to you.

We'll take the vote.

[Roll Call]

[Roll Call]

All right. Our next measure today is Senate Bill 1229, relating to the Dwelling Unit Revolving Fund. Conferees from the Senate are myself as chair, co-chair Senator Lee, and managers, Senators Kanuha and Fevella.

On behalf of the House, we have myself and Representative Miyake as co-chairs and Representative Pierick as manager.

So, I believe we have agreement on a CD 1 and WAM release.

We do and we...

The Dwelling Unit Revolving Fund Equity Pilot Program. It takes effect upon approval. It adds that unsold units may be offered to all qualified residents, having been offered to workers and professionals facing labor shortages for 30 days.

It clarifies that the buyer will pay HHFTC's equity amount and applicable equity appreciation if the buyer sells within 30 years, and clarifies that a qualified resident has the same meaning as defined in Section 201 H-32.

Sounds good.

If we're ready to take the vote, the recommendation of the House and Senate managers is to pass with amendments. Chair Chang aye.

[Roll Call]

Thank you, sir. And that brings us to the end of this agenda. We are deferring all the other measures indefinitely.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, everybody. It is 1:00 PM. This is Friday, April 25th. We are reconvening our Conference Committee. This is—we have one bill on the agenda, HB 1007, relating to HCDA. We don't have finance approval on this one. And do you have Ways and Means?

No. Are we able to roll this?

Yes.

So, shall we move this to 4:00 PM today in room 411?

Okay.

Okay. We are adjourned.

Good afternoon. We are reconvening our Conference Committee on today, Friday the 23rd—what is that, the 25th—1:30 PM and we are in Conference Room 229. First up, we have HB 987, HD 1, SD 1. On behalf of the House, Woodson, Moriwaki—Morikawa—as chairs...as manager.

Thank you so much. On behalf of the Senate, it's myself as chair, Kim, co-chair, Moriwaki, Fevella, managers.

Senator, we are waiting on FIN release on our side. Do you have WAM release?

It's—I think we do, so, but we need two to tango. So, you want to try to get back one more time?

Yeah, let's try for 2:50 PM in this room, 229, the 25th, which is today, Friday. And if we have release before then, we'll, we'll open back up. If not, we won't.

Sounds good.

Well and then hopefully we can get a better feel and maybe if there is some chance to get it out, we can do one more. So, 2—2:50—in this room. Thank you.

Thank you, Chair. Recess.

Okay.

Okay. Next up, we have HB 620, HD 1, SD 1. On behalf of the House, Woodson, Morikawa, as chair, Souza as manager.

620.

Yes.

For the Senate, myself as chair, Senator Kim, co-chair, Senator Kanuha and DeCorte, managers.

Thank you, Madam Chair. We do not have FIN release on our side yet. You have WAM? Okay, if we can roll this to 2:50 and if we have releases by that time, we can open up. If not, we'll just try again next year. That sound okay?